Political history being re wrote as we watch

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

5% UE
deficits in the 100 billions with 2 war, 7 major hurricanes, 2 recessions and 9-11
won Iraq
removed Saddam

And the left wing media still are trying to claim GWB was one of the worst. What does this make BHO?

Seriously

Many presidents have had to deal with wars, hurricanes and recessions, but only one president has inherited a budget surplus and then went on to run up the largest federal debt/GDP ratio since WW2!

GWB inherited a federal debt/GDP ratio of 56.4% in 2001 (largely due to the spending of the Reagan and GHW Bush Administrations) and left with a debt/GDP ratio of 64.2% - up 27.8%

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The closest the United States had to a surplus was back in 1835 with $33,733
http://www.theprivateer.com/usdebt/from1791.html

There even was a time when the U.S. made it a deliberate policy to pay off the national debt entirely -- and succeeded in doing so. It remains to this day the only time in history a major country has been debt free. Ironically, the president who achieved this was the founder of the modern Democratic Party, Andrew Jackson.

Jackson was a Jeffersonian through and through. The smaller the federal government, the more he liked it. And, like Jefferson, he hated banks, speculation and the "money interest." Unlike Jefferson, however, he was born poor and made his own fortune. An early personal encounter with debt had taught him to fear it. When the notes of someone who had bought land from him proved worthless, he became liable for the debts he had secured with those notes, and it took him years to pay them off.

When he ran for president the first time, in 1824, Jackson called the debt a "national curse." He vowed to "pay the national debt, to prevent a monied aristocracy from growing up around our administration that must bend to its views, and ultimately destroy the liberty of our country."

At the end of 1834, Jackson reported in the State of the Union message that the country would be debt free as of Jan. 1, 1835, with a Treasury balance of $440,000. Government revenues that year would be twice expenses.

John Steele Gordon Provides a Short History on the National Debt - WSJ.com

If you thought we had a surplus under Clinton, I'd go back and research those allegations. The United States Federal Goverenment carried a debt throughout Clinton's Presidency.

 

[jillian]

5% UE
deficits in the 100 billions with 2 war, 7 major hurricanes, 2 recessions and 9-11
won Iraq
removed Saddam

And the left wing media still are trying to claim GWB was one of the worst. What does this make BHO?

Seriously

Many presidents have had to deal with wars, hurricanes and recessions, but only one president has inherited a budget surplus and then went on to run up the largest federal debt/GDP ratio since WW2!

GWB inherited a federal debt/GDP ratio of 56.4% in 2001 (largely due to the spending of the Reagan and GHW Bush Administrations) and left with a debt/GDP ratio of 64.2% - up 27.8%

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The closest the United States had to a surplus was back in 1835 with $33,733
http://www.theprivateer.com/usdebt/from1791.html

There even was a time when the U.S. made it a deliberate policy to pay off the national debt entirely -- and succeeded in doing so. It remains to this day the only time in history a major country has been debt free. Ironically, the president who achieved this was the founder of the modern Democratic Party, Andrew Jackson.

Jackson was a Jeffersonian through and through. The smaller the federal government, the more he liked it. And, like Jefferson, he hated banks, speculation and the "money interest." Unlike Jefferson, however, he was born poor and made his own fortune. An early personal encounter with debt had taught him to fear it. When the notes of someone who had bought land from him proved worthless, he became liable for the debts he had secured with those notes, and it took him years to pay them off.

When he ran for president the first time, in 1824, Jackson called the debt a "national curse." He vowed to "pay the national debt, to prevent a monied aristocracy from growing up around our administration that must bend to its views, and ultimately destroy the liberty of our country."

At the end of 1834, Jackson reported in the State of the Union message that the country would be debt free as of Jan. 1, 1835, with a Treasury balance of $440,000. Government revenues that year would be twice expenses.

John Steele Gordon Provides a Short History on the National Debt - WSJ.com

If you thought we had a surplus under Clinton, I'd go back and research those allegations. The United States Federal Goverenment carried a debt throughout Clinton's Presidency.

you don't understand the difference between debt (which we've had since the revolutionary war) and deficit.

and the word is "shackled".....

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

every nation that has a Saddam and is stupid enough to give the world a reason to put the mandates on them the UN did after Kuwait
sure

The US congress gave the order also. I just provided for you dem. congressmen made the same conclusions on the intel we had as GWB
By the way, why did you ignore that

As stated before Congress cannot order the military to do anything. Furthermore Congess did not get the same breifing in Sept 2002 by the head of the CIA that said we had credible evidence that Saddam has no WMD programs.

Congress cannot do what?

UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Yes Blindboo, Congress has authoritative power to allow for the use of the military. The Executive Branch must go before Congress with regard to a Declaration of War and allowance of military forces. The United States military itself has no power to refute the actions of Congress.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Many presidents have had to deal with wars, hurricanes and recessions, but only one president has inherited a budget surplus and then went on to run up the largest federal debt/GDP ratio since WW2!

GWB inherited a federal debt/GDP ratio of 56.4% in 2001 (largely due to the spending of the Reagan and GHW Bush Administrations) and left with a debt/GDP ratio of 64.2% - up 27.8%

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The closest the United States had to a surplus was back in 1835 with $33,733
http://www.theprivateer.com/usdebt/from1791.html

There even was a time when the U.S. made it a deliberate policy to pay off the national debt entirely -- and succeeded in doing so. It remains to this day the only time in history a major country has been debt free. Ironically, the president who achieved this was the founder of the modern Democratic Party, Andrew Jackson.

Jackson was a Jeffersonian through and through. The smaller the federal government, the more he liked it. And, like Jefferson, he hated banks, speculation and the "money interest." Unlike Jefferson, however, he was born poor and made his own fortune. An early personal encounter with debt had taught him to fear it. When the notes of someone who had bought land from him proved worthless, he became liable for the debts he had secured with those notes, and it took him years to pay them off.

When he ran for president the first time, in 1824, Jackson called the debt a "national curse." He vowed to "pay the national debt, to prevent a monied aristocracy from growing up around our administration that must bend to its views, and ultimately destroy the liberty of our country."

At the end of 1834, Jackson reported in the State of the Union message that the country would be debt free as of Jan. 1, 1835, with a Treasury balance of $440,000. Government revenues that year would be twice expenses.

John Steele Gordon Provides a Short History on the National Debt - WSJ.com

If you thought we had a surplus under Clinton, I'd go back and research those allegations. The United States Federal Goverenment carried a debt throughout Clinton's Presidency.

you don't understand the difference between debt (which we've had since the revolutionary war) and deficit.

and the word is "shackled".....

The surplus under Clinton has been debunked on another thread, whereby Clinton used Social Security funds to help reduce the deficit, it was a giant shell game.

. . . and my handle (if you noticed) was "abbreviated" dear, try and learn the difference. I don't have time for your ignorance.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Modern day pseudo-conservatism started with RR. RR didn't care how many Arab Muslims (Iranian or Iraqis) were killed due to his policies of supplying arms to both side of that conflict.

Boo the issue is jobs and debt, not what RR id in 1984 besides the start of this run we had the next 25 years
what is wrong with the tax rates as well as the 40 million jobs created sense then?
yea BC raised the rates as well as W sr, not close to the rates as they were prior to RR cut them

And as far as the truth of what really occcured with Iraq, Iran during that time is any-ones guess
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 4 TRILLIONS IN DEBT AND 6 MILLION JOBS GONE SENSE 2008

The title is Politial History being re-wrote as we watch.

Personally I think our policy of interventionism has more to do with the debt than most anything else.

How so? The Iraq war under GWB cost taxpayers $820 Billion during his two terms as President, Obama spent almost that much under one stimulus bill. We really don't want to get into a DEBT discussion now, do we?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The thread's intent was to make aware as to how much Spammed lies where told that now with BHO performance are being exposed
Iraq as it pertains to GWB has its place in this thread. Liberals use a tactic that is to change the subject matter, muck it up.
I did a thread on paid spammers. I have watched on it this message board as they team up, and do what they can to destroy threads that have value exposing the truth

You have succeeded in demonstrating that your spammed lying and repetitive posting of debunked arguments have no effect in changing the minds of cons, libs, and centrists who are better informed and much more honest than you.

The only one on the entire board who I believe to be a paid blogger is bigrebnc, and that only in the last six months. That will change in the future.

I do believe that you hope to land such a position. Do ask for a reference from me.

Jake why do I scare you so much? I have no idea why tou are so focused on attacking me?
Dude you need prayer God bless you Jake, I hope you find peace brother

Thank you for the prayers, JRK. I have no fear of you or other neo-cons. You have all been exposed for what you are, a danger to our wonderful country and it will be a long time before that type of imperialistic intervention as in Iraq will be tolerated again.

You have done a marvelous service here in reinforcing the the wrong-headedness of crony neo-con progressive right wing warfare, and I think you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Boo the issue is jobs and debt, not what RR id in 1984 besides the start of this run we had the next 25 years
what is wrong with the tax rates as well as the 40 million jobs created sense then?
yea BC raised the rates as well as W sr, not close to the rates as they were prior to RR cut them

And as far as the truth of what really occcured with Iraq, Iran during that time is any-ones guess
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 4 TRILLIONS IN DEBT AND 6 MILLION JOBS GONE SENSE 2008

The title is Politial History being re-wrote as we watch.

Personally I think our policy of interventionism has more to do with the debt than most anything else.

How so? The Iraq war under GWB cost taxpayers $820 Billion during his two terms as President, Obama spent almost that much under one stimulus bill. We really don't want to get into a DEBT discussion now, do we?

Deflection, no comparison. Shakles, do better, please, or stop wasting our time.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

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Okay, what every you say Boo

Of all the folks you quote, only one had the power to order the military to do anything. President Clinton did in fact order strikes on Iraq. However in the Bill he sent to Congress he didn't offer to invade, occupy of spend the life of one US soldier.

Do you seriously think that if the director of the CIA had breifed members of Congress with the fact that the CIA didn't believe Iraq had any WMD programs that Congress would have still given President Bush the deciding role on an invasion? I do not.

you are referring to this strike by President Clinton in 1998:

U.S. Navy ships launched 23 Tomahawk missiles against the headquarters of the Iraqi Intelligence Service yesterday in what President Clinton said was a "firm and commensurate" response to Iraq's plan to assassinate former president George Bush in mid-April.

The attack was meant to strike at the building where Iraqi officials had plotted against Bush, organized other unspecified terrorist actions and directed repressive internal security measures, senior U.S. officials said.

Clinton, speaking in a televised address to the nation at 7:40 last night, said he ordered the attack to send three messages to the Iraqi leadership: "We will combat terrorism. We will deter aggression. We will protect our people."

Clinton said he ordered the attack after receiving "compelling evidence" from U.S. intelligence officials that Bush had been the target of an assassination plot and that the plot was "directed and pursued by the Iraqi Intelligence Service."
Error - washingtonpost.com

Is it merely a coincidence that Clinton was also trying to get his scandal with Mrs. Lewinski off the front page news?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Shakles, once again, you are deflecting and that wastes time.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

The title is Politial History being re-wrote as we watch.

Personally I think our policy of interventionism has more to do with the debt than most anything else.

How so? The Iraq war under GWB cost taxpayers $820 Billion during his two terms as President, Obama spent almost that much under one stimulus bill. We really don't want to get into a DEBT discussion now, do we?

Deflection, no comparison. Shakles, do better, please, or stop wasting our time.

You've already wasted my time with your endless "talking point" babble. As I told you before, try contributing a bit of FACTUAL information to the thread if you care to rebuttle next time.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Shakles, you are deflecting. Stay on point, which is that hard righties like you won't be allowed to revise history, end of story, amen and amen.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Shakles, you are
-snip-

Still bloviating Jake?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

De bunked?
all you have done is confirmed
And why would you say Bob G. was never briefed by the CIA? you got a link to back that up?
Bob G was the head of intel committee for congress

And as far as Blix goes, he said oh shit after he made those accurate comments, and kept saying it for years after
does it really mak a diff what his intent was? to be honest Boo you made a better case for GWB. Saddam was not doing the right thing, it was a double whammy

Congress stated to enforce UN resolutions
Blix according to your claims after 1-27 again he is not allowing access
Sorry
again, confirm, not de bunked
in fact you might want to find a freind that knows something about law(debate) before you present your next evidence

Again President Bush was briefed by the head of the CIA in Sept 2002 that the CIA had credible evidence that Iraq did not have any new WMD programs. That briefing was not shared with Congress. The link to this briefing has been posted many times.

Blix reiterated the conclusion of his January 27 report to the Security Council that Iraq was allowing "access to all sites and assistance to UNMOVIC in the establishment of the necessary infrastructure", including access to sites "that had never been declared or inspected, as well as to presidential sites and private residences".

There was no UN resolution authorizing any member state to use military force to remove Saddam from power.

Utterly debunked. Yore re-wrote ain't write.

The idea of a UN resolution authorizing any member state to use military force, was utterly debunked? There was no clear expression of that under UN 1441, that I have read. Do you have some "evidence" that states the contrary with noncontested assurance, as I have yet to see any presented from anyone thus far?

Resolution 1441's second ambiguity is even more significant. While the resolution makes clear that the Security Council must reconvene to discuss how to deal with Iraqi noncompliance, it does not make clear whether the council must pass another resolution at such a meeting, authorizing the use of force, or whether member states may simply act on their own.
International Law - War in Iraq - United Nations - Iraq

(and no Jake a small one or two sentence commentary just won't due, I'm trying to engage in an actual "dialogue" with someone who knows how to express more than just mere "opinion", so unless you have some relevent facts to present here . . . . I'm not at all interested in what you have to say).

 

[JakeStarkey]

Absolutely debunked as you are, Shakles. Stay on point, son.

 

[JRK]

every nation that has a Saddam and is stupid enough to give the world a reason to put the mandates on them the UN did after Kuwait
sure

The US congress gave the order also. I just provided for you dem. congressmen made the same conclusions on the intel we had as GWB
By the way, why did you ignore that

As stated before Congress cannot order the military to do anything. Furthermore Congess did not get the same breifing in Sept 2002 by the head of the CIA that said we had credible evidence that Saddam has no WMD programs.

Congress cannot do what?

UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Yes Blindboo, Congress has authoritative power to allow for the use of the military. The Executive Branch must go before Congress with regard to a Declaration of War and allowance of military forces. The United States military itself has no power to refute the actions of Congress.

shack are these guys amazing or what?
I mean it is out of a comic book sometimes. I am not sure that Boo and Jake are not the same person
They follow each other with Jake being the one with me that just attacks me for some reason

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

As stated before Congress cannot order the military to do anything. Furthermore Congess did not get the same breifing in Sept 2002 by the head of the CIA that said we had credible evidence that Saddam has no WMD programs.

Congress cannot do what?

UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Yes Blindboo, Congress has authoritative power to allow for the use of the military. The Executive Branch must go before Congress with regard to a Declaration of War and allowance of military forces. The United States military itself has no power to refute the actions of Congress.

shack are these guys amazing or what?
I mean it is out of a comic book sometimes. I am not sure that Boo and Jake are not the same person
They follow each other with Jake being the one with me that just attacks me for some reason

He has to JRK, JakeStarkey hasn't shown that he can do much of anything else on this thread. Just look at what his replies has been for just the past 12 pages alone, that's all the proof you ever need.

 

[JRK]

Congress cannot do what?



Yes Blindboo, Congress has authoritative power to allow for the use of the military. The Executive Branch must go before Congress with regard to a Declaration of War and allowance of military forces. The United States military itself has no power to refute the actions of Congress.

shack are these guys amazing or what?
I mean it is out of a comic book sometimes. I am not sure that Boo and Jake are not the same person
They follow each other with Jake being the one with me that just attacks me for some reason

He has to JRK, JakeStarkey hasn't shown that he can do much of anything else on this thread. Just look at what his replies has been for just the past 12 pages alone, that's all the proof you ever need.

I agree. It is SOP for the left. What is sad is the millions that voted for Obama on this crap

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

shack are these guys amazing or what?
I mean it is out of a comic book sometimes. I am not sure that Boo and Jake are not the same person
They follow each other with Jake being the one with me that just attacks me for some reason

He has to JRK, JakeStarkey hasn't shown that he can do much of anything else on this thread. Just look at what his replies has been for just the past 12 pages alone, that's all the proof you ever need.

I agree. It is SOP for the left. What is sad is the millions that voted for Obama on this crap

Well Obama is stuck with having to defend his record of a fragile economy that has only gotten worse, since he has been President. However, that's another thread entirely.

 

[JRK]

He has to JRK, JakeStarkey hasn't shown that he can do much of anything else on this thread. Just look at what his replies has been for just the past 12 pages alone, that's all the proof you ever need.

I agree. It is SOP for the left. What is sad is the millions that voted for Obama on this crap

Well Obama is stuck with having to defend his record of a fragile economy that has only gotten worse, since he has been President. However, that's another thread entirely.

Shack how did we get here? Will we survive it?

 

[BlindBoo]

He has to JRK, JakeStarkey hasn't shown that he can do much of anything else on this thread. Just look at what his replies has been for just the past 12 pages alone, that's all the proof you ever need.

I agree. It is SOP for the left. What is sad is the millions that voted for Obama on this crap

Well Obama is stuck with having to defend his record of a fragile economy that has only gotten worse, since he has been President. However, that's another thread entirely.

Hogwash. The economy was in freefall in Jan 2009. Since Obama became president it stopped the freefall and began to grow slowly. But with the obstructionist in Congress seeking a "Waterloo" moment for President we could be headed for that double dip.