Police Doing Their Job

[GreenBean]

Living 20 minutes outside Manhattan, have gotten to talk to numerous people in the last several days who where in shopping and/or working. 80% of the protestors are white..............mostly OWS people who are looking for any cause to go march for. In other words, they are a joke being ramped up by the msm as some kind of race thing = ghey. Losers supporting a cause of losers. Limpwristed fags........

Limpwristed fags, pacifists, doves, peaceniks today, and nazis that carry out genocide and mass murders when the subject is authoritarianism....

You folks are RETARDS...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

 

[GreenBean]

Living 20 minutes outside Manhattan, have gotten to talk to numerous people in the last several days who where in shopping and/or working. 80% of the protestors are white..............mostly OWS people who are looking for any cause to go march for. In other words, they are a joke being ramped up by the msm as some kind of race thing = ghey. Losers supporting a cause of losers. Limpwristed fags........

 

[Bfgrn]

Living 20 minutes outside Manhattan, have gotten to talk to numerous people in the last several days who where in shopping and/or working. 80% of the protestors are white..............mostly OWS people who are looking for any cause to go march for. In other words, they are a joke being ramped up by the msm as some kind of race thing = ghey. Losers supporting a cause of losers. Limpwristed fags........

Limpwristed fags, pacifists, doves, peaceniks today, and nazis that carry out genocide and mass murders when the subject is authoritarianism....

You folks are RETARDS...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The situation was created by the cop stopping them...."
This is the statement of a complete moron.


Ever been stopped?
Did you pull a gun?

I know this is hard for your very small and uneducated brain proven by multiple research studies, but once again, let's revisit the question.

Why does a cop always have to stop a black man for anything? You complain about tea police state, well that video is as good of evidence of one that I can think of but you are okay with that, why is that? I can probably guess the answer but let's see if you're being honest.

Isn't amazing that same very small uneducated (right wing) brain has no problem with agents of government practicing profiling, UNLESS it is the IRS and tea party political groups applying for tax exempt status which prohibits political groups from qualifying for that status?

Oh the hypocrisy is palpable. I mean how dare the agency tasked with collecting tax revenue, profile groups who are open anti-tax and questioned whether they are legitimate or not. The nerve!

Man points gun at police officer. Police officer shoots man dead.

No problem.

Thinking that any unrest in MO is due to this event? Stupid.

Certainly polite of you to have signed your post.



You may have a point there...aside from the one on top of your head.


Latest evidence is that the protests have been engineered by communists, the same folks behind Occupy Wall Street.

"But that doesn’t mean that A.N.S.W.E.R. has given up on Communism. The front page of its site currently celebrates Barack Obama’s collaboration with the Castro regime with the banner headline “The Cuban Five Are FREE!”

Given all of that, we shouldn’t have been surprised to see that the current demonstrations in New York against the police are being led by the Communist, pro-terrorist International A.N.S.W.E.R. This is from the organization’s Twitter feed:

A.N.S.W.E.R. is close to unique, in that it advocates for pretty much every form of evil in the world. Who pays for it, what masters it serves, remains unknown. But that evil infuses its every act, is obvious."
Communists Are Behind the Anti-Police Protests In New York Power Line

you do realize you never posted ANSWERS Twitter feed and just posted a comment from the op saying ''ANSWER is close to unique, in that it advocates for pretty much every form of evil in the world?''

THAT's quite misleading/deceiving, and you should correct it PC...ANSWER never twittered that comment ...

look at your own link that you provided...it has their accurate tweet there...

ANSWER Coalition @answercoalition
Follow
In front of the plaza now to #ShutDown5thAve #WinterOfResistance #JailKillerCops #every28hours

5:22 PM - 23 Dec 2014 Manhattan, NY, United States

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The situation was created by the cop stopping them...."
This is the statement of a complete moron.


Ever been stopped?
Did you pull a gun?

I know this is hard for your very small and uneducated brain proven by multiple research studies, but once again, let's revisit the question.

Why does a cop always have to stop a black man for anything? You complain about tea police state, well that video is as good of evidence of one that I can think of but you are okay with that, why is that? I can probably guess the answer but let's see if you're being honest.

Isn't amazing that same very small uneducated (right wing) brain has no problem with agents of government practicing profiling, UNLESS it is the IRS and tea party political groups applying for tax exempt status which prohibits political groups from qualifying for that status?

Oh the hypocrisy is palpable. I mean how dare the agency tasked with collecting tax revenue, profile groups who are open anti-tax and questioned whether they are legitimate or not. The nerve!

Man points gun at police officer. Police officer shoots man dead.

No problem.

Thinking that any unrest in MO is due to this event? Stupid.

Certainly polite of you to have signed your post.



You may have a point there...aside from the one on top of your head.


Latest evidence is that the protests have been engineered by communists, the same folks behind Occupy Wall Street.

"But that doesn’t mean that A.N.S.W.E.R. has given up on Communism. The front page of its site currently celebrates Barack Obama’s collaboration with the Castro regime with the banner headline “The Cuban Five Are FREE!”

Given all of that, we shouldn’t have been surprised to see that the current demonstrations in New York against the police are being led by the Communist, pro-terrorist International A.N.S.W.E.R. This is from the organization’s Twitter feed:

A.N.S.W.E.R. is close to unique, in that it advocates for pretty much every form of evil in the world. Who pays for it, what masters it serves, remains unknown. But that evil infuses its every act, is obvious."
Communists Are Behind the Anti-Police Protests In New York Power Line

This tactic has worked for decades controlling right wing morons like you...the red scare...

Pass that on to the 100 million corpses slaughtered by communists in the last century.

 

[GreenBean]

Living 20 minutes outside Manhattan, have gotten to talk to numerous people in the last several days who where in shopping and/or working. 80% of the protestors are white..............mostly OWS people who are looking for any cause to go march for. In other words, they are a joke being ramped up by the msm as some kind of race thing = ghey. Losers supporting a cause of losers. Limpwristed fags........

Limpwristed fags, pacifists, doves, peaceniks today, and nazis that carry out genocide and mass murders when the subject is authoritarianism....

You folks are RETARDS...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

Asinine Semantics - is that all you've got ?

Mao -When speaking of "Liberalism" in Post Revolutionary China was speaking about those Chinese that sought to soften his soften his Revolutionary policies - He was a Lefty and was responsible for the deaths of 50 - 80,000,000

Hitler - What you posted was 99% irrelevant to the topic at hand and more relevant to a religious thread - it is well known that Hitler was highly superstitious and spiritual but that has minimal relevance to the fact that he was a left wing socialist much like Obama and Clinton. Get with the program pal.

Stalin - I take it you didn't bother to read the article in question- you just saw a snappy banner which suited your agenda and posted it - it is completely irrelevant it deals with Stalinist ideals of the 1930s - which were Left Wing and attempts to define Stalin as a Conservative because he sought to conserve the Left WIng Communist ideals and neo Stalinist authoritarianism.

Get a Clue or STFU because all you posted was a lot of misleading gobbledy gook

 

[dannyboys]

You Liberals never cease to amaze: seems, much like the result of the attacks by the "Body Snachers," once you Liberals are indoctrinated, you are never able to shake off said effects.

You dope: this is the only important aspect:
"When the officer approached, Martin reportedly drew a handgun and pointed it at the officer. The officer discharged his weapon multiple times and Martin was pronounced dead at the scene. The suspect’s gun was recovered."

What difference does name calling make????

You're old enough to remember 'sticks and stones.'

Why are you so prone to seek mitigation for antisocial, recidivists who are ready to 'Willie Horton' the rest of us.....including you.


And.....Merry Christmas.

And you right wing haters never cease to amaze me. The vile nature of conservatism, the deep hate of those you see as "others" has been a cancer that infests our society, our nation and our species.

Conservatism plays to the lowest human denominator. It brings out the worst in humankind.

Our "species" would look very different if only negroes inhabited the earth.
Just think.
All the science! The medical advancements! The arts and literature!
All those wonderful human achievements!
The only problem the medical labs would be built from dog shit and mud.
If you want to know what a negro world would look like catch a plane to fucking West Africa. Make it a 'one-way' please.

The Negroes migrated out of Africa and populated the Earth - their descendants are Caucasians, Asians, Amerindians - sorry to burst your bubble but the Fuhrer is dead and your Great grandparents X 50 were Ni*gg*ers .

So the negroes in Africa were the 'founding race' of humans eh? OK
So you'd assume they'd be the most advanced right. Instead of the most backward, low IQ, most violent race on the planet. So pray tell. Was it the Whites who held them back for tens of thousands of years while the Whites went on to build the greatest civilisation on the planet?

Home boys built the Great Pyramids while the Caucasians were living in caves and huts , dining on rodents and wallowing in feces.

Jesus Christ was in all likelihood a "N*igg*er", as were many Biblical characters .

The "Golden Age" African civilization collapsed around 2-3,000 years ago and its remnants merged into Indo-European culture.

Although Africans do have a lower IQ when graded on the Bell curve and compared to Europeans-Europeans have a lower IQ when graded on the bell curve and compared to Asians - does that make Europeans inferior to Asians ?

What it does prove is some races are better at doing some things generally speaking than other races.
No one is saying the negro race isn't generally better able to perform certain tasks than other races.
Negroes generally are a lot better at smashing into each other and causing brain injuries attempting to move a leather football up and down a field. They are way better at throwing a leather ball into a whoop. They can run faster and longer than other races. Other races are good at getting educations so they can get good jobs so they can afford to go watch the negroes at their games.
Other races design and build cars and computers.
So it's all good.

 

[Bfgrn]

I know this is hard for your very small and uneducated brain proven by multiple research studies, but once again, let's revisit the question.

Why does a cop always have to stop a black man for anything? You complain about tea police state, well that video is as good of evidence of one that I can think of but you are okay with that, why is that? I can probably guess the answer but let's see if you're being honest.

Isn't amazing that same very small uneducated (right wing) brain has no problem with agents of government practicing profiling, UNLESS it is the IRS and tea party political groups applying for tax exempt status which prohibits political groups from qualifying for that status?

Oh the hypocrisy is palpable. I mean how dare the agency tasked with collecting tax revenue, profile groups who are open anti-tax and questioned whether they are legitimate or not. The nerve!

Man points gun at police officer. Police officer shoots man dead.

No problem.

Thinking that any unrest in MO is due to this event? Stupid.

Certainly polite of you to have signed your post.



You may have a point there...aside from the one on top of your head.


Latest evidence is that the protests have been engineered by communists, the same folks behind Occupy Wall Street.

"But that doesn’t mean that A.N.S.W.E.R. has given up on Communism. The front page of its site currently celebrates Barack Obama’s collaboration with the Castro regime with the banner headline “The Cuban Five Are FREE!”

Given all of that, we shouldn’t have been surprised to see that the current demonstrations in New York against the police are being led by the Communist, pro-terrorist International A.N.S.W.E.R. This is from the organization’s Twitter feed:

A.N.S.W.E.R. is close to unique, in that it advocates for pretty much every form of evil in the world. Who pays for it, what masters it serves, remains unknown. But that evil infuses its every act, is obvious."
Communists Are Behind the Anti-Police Protests In New York Power Line

This tactic has worked for decades controlling right wing morons like you...the red scare...

Pass that on to the 100 million corpses slaughtered by communists in the last century.

SO PC,

ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism) is an anti-war and social justice coalition with organizing centers in cities and towns across the country.

So PC, you are a blue blood American, you OPPOSE ANSWER...you are FOR war and racism.

Just as I always thought...

 

[Bfgrn]

Living 20 minutes outside Manhattan, have gotten to talk to numerous people in the last several days who where in shopping and/or working. 80% of the protestors are white..............mostly OWS people who are looking for any cause to go march for. In other words, they are a joke being ramped up by the msm as some kind of race thing = ghey. Losers supporting a cause of losers. Limpwristed fags........

Limpwristed fags, pacifists, doves, peaceniks today, and nazis that carry out genocide and mass murders when the subject is authoritarianism....

You folks are RETARDS...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

Asinine Semantics - is that all you've got ?

Mao -When speaking of "Liberalism" in Post Revolutionary China was speaking about those Chinese that sought to soften his soften his Revolutionary policies - He was a Lefty and was responsible for the deaths of 50 - 80,000,000

Hitler - What you posted was 99% irrelevant to the topic at hand and more relevant to a religious thread - it is well known that Hitler was highly superstitious and spiritual but that has minimal relevance to the fact that he was a left wing socialist much like Obama and Clinton. Get with the program pal.

Stalin - I take it you didn't bother to read the article in question- you just saw a snappy banner which suited your agenda and posted it - it is completely irrelevant it deals with Stalinist ideals of the 1930s - which were Left Wing and attempts to define Stalin as a Conservative because he sought to conserve the Left WIng Communist ideals and neo Stalinist authoritarianism.

Get a Clue or STFU because all you posted was a lot of misleading gobbledy gook

It is not "semantics", it is political philosophy. Mao was NOT a liberal...

There is NOTHING liberal about communism...

Liberalism in China or Chinese liberalism resulted from the introduction of classical liberalism into China during the period of Western domination towards the end of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). Translations of John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Immanuel Kant, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and many other writers had a cumulative effect, as did the ascendancy of liberalism in world powers like Britain, France and the United States. The establishment of the Republic of China in 1911-12 signaled the acceptance (at least in principle) of these models and the liberal values with which they identified, such as constitutionalism and the separation of powers.

The writings of Liang Qichao (1873-1929) played a major role, despite his leanings to a conservative outlook in latter years. The New Culture Movement (1915-) and its immediate successor the May Fourth Movement (1919) initially were strongly liberal in character, with key figures like Hu Shi (1891-1962) as the preeminent exponent of liberal values. Other important liberals were Zhang Dongsun (1886-1976) and Zhang Junmai (1887-1969).

Liberalism was to suffer in the wake of the immense challenges China faced from Japanese militarism and the impact of the Communist movement. By the 1930s many of the younger generation felt that only radical, authoritarian doctrines could save the country. The Guomindang or Nationalist party absorbed a good deal of Fascist doctrine and practice. Liberalism increasingly seemed to serve as a forlorn "third force", able only to admonish authoritarian regimes of the Left and Right.

The ascendancy of Mao Zedong and the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949 brought the liberal impulse to its lowest level. Ideological witchhunts were organized against the (real or imaginary) followers of Hu Shi, and their values were ceaselessly derided as bourgeois delusions which could only weaken the nation.

With the collapse of Mao's ideology on his death, seeds of regeneration which had lain dormant gradually came to life. Liberal ideals like intellectual freedom, the separation of powers, civil society and the rule of law were reexamined in the light of the destruction wrought by the Communist party which had been so vociferous in denigrating them. Starting in the Cultural Revolution, many younger people experienced virtual conversions to liberalism. This process was given further impetus by the Tiananmen Square protests leading up to the massacre of June 4, 1989. The democracy movement espoused (however imperfectly) many liberal doctrines. Among the key figures were Wang Ruoshui (1926-2002), who while remaining a Marxist humanist reconfigured this doctrine along liberal lines, and Liu Xiaobo (b. 1955), initially a literary critic, who broke with Marxism to combine existentialist themes with liberalism.

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Hitler was NOT a socialist, he despised Marxists...educate yourself on The Night of the Long Knives where Hitler purged the socialists from the party.

For Adolf Hitler, the behavior of the SA was a problem that now threatened his own political survival and the entire future of the Nazi movement.

The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves. (The first revolution having been the Nazi seizure of power in early 1933.)

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Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party.

 

[LoneLaugher]

And you right wing haters never cease to amaze me. The vile nature of conservatism, the deep hate of those you see as "others" has been a cancer that infests our society, our nation and our species.

Conservatism plays to the lowest human denominator. It brings out the worst in humankind.

Our "species" would look very different if only negroes inhabited the earth.
Just think.
All the science! The medical advancements! The arts and literature!
All those wonderful human achievements!
The only problem the medical labs would be built from dog shit and mud.
If you want to know what a negro world would look like catch a plane to fucking West Africa. Make it a 'one-way' please.

The Negroes migrated out of Africa and populated the Earth - their descendants are Caucasians, Asians, Amerindians - sorry to burst your bubble but the Fuhrer is dead and your Great grandparents X 50 were Ni*gg*ers .

So the negroes in Africa were the 'founding race' of humans eh? OK
So you'd assume they'd be the most advanced right. Instead of the most backward, low IQ, most violent race on the planet. So pray tell. Was it the Whites who held them back for tens of thousands of years while the Whites went on to build the greatest civilisation on the planet?

Home boys built the Great Pyramids while the Caucasians were living in caves and huts , dining on rodents and wallowing in feces.

Jesus Christ was in all likelihood a "N*igg*er", as were many Biblical characters .

The "Golden Age" African civilization collapsed around 2-3,000 years ago and its remnants merged into Indo-European culture.

Although Africans do have a lower IQ when graded on the Bell curve and compared to Europeans-Europeans have a lower IQ when graded on the bell curve and compared to Asians - does that make Europeans inferior to Asians ?

What it does prove is some races are better at doing some things generally speaking than other races.
No one is saying the negro race isn't generally better able to perform certain tasks than other races.
Negroes generally are a lot better at smashing into each other and causing brain injuries attempting to move a leather football up and down a field. They are way better at throwing a leather ball into a whoop. They can run faster and longer than other races. Other races are good at getting educations so they can get good jobs so they can afford to go watch the negroes at their games.
Other races design and build cars and computers.
So it's all good.

"Whoop! Der it is"

 

[timslash]

Now, unlike the situation with Garner, this guy is really guilty. Officer did everything right and he was following the instructions! Shame on all stupid loot khm... protesters!

 

[GreenBean]

Living 20 minutes outside Manhattan, have gotten to talk to numerous people in the last several days who where in shopping and/or working. 80% of the protestors are white..............mostly OWS people who are looking for any cause to go march for. In other words, they are a joke being ramped up by the msm as some kind of race thing = ghey. Losers supporting a cause of losers. Limpwristed fags........

Limpwristed fags, pacifists, doves, peaceniks today, and nazis that carry out genocide and mass murders when the subject is authoritarianism....

You folks are RETARDS...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

Asinine Semantics - is that all you've got ?

Mao -When speaking of "Liberalism" in Post Revolutionary China was speaking about those Chinese that sought to soften his soften his Revolutionary policies - He was a Lefty and was responsible for the deaths of 50 - 80,000,000

Hitler - What you posted was 99% irrelevant to the topic at hand and more relevant to a religious thread - it is well known that Hitler was highly superstitious and spiritual but that has minimal relevance to the fact that he was a left wing socialist much like Obama and Clinton. Get with the program pal.

Stalin - I take it you didn't bother to read the article in question- you just saw a snappy banner which suited your agenda and posted it - it is completely irrelevant it deals with Stalinist ideals of the 1930s - which were Left Wing and attempts to define Stalin as a Conservative because he sought to conserve the Left WIng Communist ideals and neo Stalinist authoritarianism.

Get a Clue or STFU because all you posted was a lot of misleading gobbledy gook

It is not "semantics", it is political philosophy. Mao was NOT a liberal...

There is NOTHING liberal about communism...

Liberalism in China or Chinese liberalism resulted from the introduction of classical liberalism into China during the period of Western domination towards the end of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). Translations of John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Immanuel Kant, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and many other writers had a cumulative effect, as did the ascendancy of liberalism in world powers like Britain, France and the United States. The establishment of the Republic of China in 1911-12 signaled the acceptance (at least in principle) of these models and the liberal values with which they identified, such as constitutionalism and the separation of powers.

The writings of Liang Qichao (1873-1929) played a major role, despite his leanings to a conservative outlook in latter years. The New Culture Movement (1915-) and its immediate successor the May Fourth Movement (1919) initially were strongly liberal in character, with key figures like Hu Shi (1891-1962) as the preeminent exponent of liberal values. Other important liberals were Zhang Dongsun (1886-1976) and Zhang Junmai (1887-1969).

Liberalism was to suffer in the wake of the immense challenges China faced from Japanese militarism and the impact of the Communist movement. By the 1930s many of the younger generation felt that only radical, authoritarian doctrines could save the country. The Guomindang or Nationalist party absorbed a good deal of Fascist doctrine and practice. Liberalism increasingly seemed to serve as a forlorn "third force", able only to admonish authoritarian regimes of the Left and Right.

The ascendancy of Mao Zedong and the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949 brought the liberal impulse to its lowest level. Ideological witchhunts were organized against the (real or imaginary) followers of Hu Shi, and their values were ceaselessly derided as bourgeois delusions which could only weaken the nation.

With the collapse of Mao's ideology on his death, seeds of regeneration which had lain dormant gradually came to life. Liberal ideals like intellectual freedom, the separation of powers, civil society and the rule of law were reexamined in the light of the destruction wrought by the Communist party which had been so vociferous in denigrating them. Starting in the Cultural Revolution, many younger people experienced virtual conversions to liberalism. This process was given further impetus by the Tiananmen Square protests leading up to the massacre of June 4, 1989. The democracy movement espoused (however imperfectly) many liberal doctrines. Among the key figures were Wang Ruoshui (1926-2002), who while remaining a Marxist humanist reconfigured this doctrine along liberal lines, and Liu Xiaobo (b. 1955), initially a literary critic, who broke with Marxism to combine existentialist themes with liberalism.

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Hitler was NOT a socialist, he despised Marxists...educate yourself on The Night of the Long Knives where Hitler purged the socialists from the party.

For Adolf Hitler, the behavior of the SA was a problem that now threatened his own political survival and the entire future of the Nazi movement.

The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves. (The first revolution having been the Nazi seizure of power in early 1933.)

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Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party.

Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party

Are we even on the same page ? Comparing Apples to Oranges are you ?

The Tsarists were Conservative Right Wing -
The Mensheviks were left wing
The Bolsheviks were ultra Left wing

Stalin was a Bolshevik Ultra Left Wing - get your History straight pal. From our current perspective , he is more in line with Obama and company than with any right wing dogma.

So far as the rest of your post -kindly post a link as to where you copied and pasted from because you did not write that , and it is primarily long winded tripe - some of which is remotely relevant to the topic at hand.

You are also re-defining "Liberal" to suit your needs - which is basically boolean semantics - from our current perspective

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Obama are Left Wing [aka Liberal] scum bubbles -

 

[GreenBean]

And you right wing haters never cease to amaze me. The vile nature of conservatism, the deep hate of those you see as "others" has been a cancer that infests our society, our nation and our species.

Conservatism plays to the lowest human denominator. It brings out the worst in humankind.

Our "species" would look very different if only negroes inhabited the earth.
Just think.
All the science! The medical advancements! The arts and literature!
All those wonderful human achievements!
The only problem the medical labs would be built from dog shit and mud.
If you want to know what a negro world would look like catch a plane to fucking West Africa. Make it a 'one-way' please.

The Negroes migrated out of Africa and populated the Earth - their descendants are Caucasians, Asians, Amerindians - sorry to burst your bubble but the Fuhrer is dead and your Great grandparents X 50 were Ni*gg*ers .

So the negroes in Africa were the 'founding race' of humans eh? OK
So you'd assume they'd be the most advanced right. Instead of the most backward, low IQ, most violent race on the planet. So pray tell. Was it the Whites who held them back for tens of thousands of years while the Whites went on to build the greatest civilisation on the planet?

Home boys built the Great Pyramids while the Caucasians were living in caves and huts , dining on rodents and wallowing in feces.

Jesus Christ was in all likelihood a "N*igg*er", as were many Biblical characters .

The "Golden Age" African civilization collapsed around 2-3,000 years ago and its remnants merged into Indo-European culture.

Although Africans do have a lower IQ when graded on the Bell curve and compared to Europeans-Europeans have a lower IQ when graded on the bell curve and compared to Asians - does that make Europeans inferior to Asians ?

What it does prove is some races are better at doing some things generally speaking than other races.
No one is saying the negro race isn't generally better able to perform certain tasks than other races.
Negroes generally are a lot better at smashing into each other and causing brain injuries attempting to move a leather football up and down a field. They are way better at throwing a leather ball into a whoop. They can run faster and longer than other races. Other races are good at getting educations so they can get good jobs so they can afford to go watch the negroes at their games.
Other races design and build cars and computers.
So it's all good.

Well put Danny - and true to a certain point - however Larry Byrd was a great B-ballplayer - he's a white boy. And Thomas Sowell is a great intellectual he's a black dude ---basically what you are doing is stereotyping based on observation and failing to take into account a myriad of demographic and socio-economic variables.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What do conservatives like most about this article? That a cop lived and did the right thing? Or that a dangerous negro, representative of all the ******* of course, raised by thug mamas (thanks bucs90 ) is dead?

I think we all know the answer.

sadly, on point here

The point you are inadvertently making is the verification of the major difference between Left and Right.

"While the Judeo-Christian society labels actions as ‘good’ or ‘evil,’ due to morality and/or self-control, the Left sees the results as due to material inequality, i.e., violent crime due to poverty." Dennis Prager

Prager's opinions are NOT highly regarded by most people

Not highly regarded? By whom? You flaming liberals?
Gee. Gosh. No shit.

reality bites

 

[Bfgrn]

Limpwristed fags, pacifists, doves, peaceniks today, and nazis that carry out genocide and mass murders when the subject is authoritarianism....

You folks are RETARDS...

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

Asinine Semantics - is that all you've got ?

Mao -When speaking of "Liberalism" in Post Revolutionary China was speaking about those Chinese that sought to soften his soften his Revolutionary policies - He was a Lefty and was responsible for the deaths of 50 - 80,000,000

Hitler - What you posted was 99% irrelevant to the topic at hand and more relevant to a religious thread - it is well known that Hitler was highly superstitious and spiritual but that has minimal relevance to the fact that he was a left wing socialist much like Obama and Clinton. Get with the program pal.

Stalin - I take it you didn't bother to read the article in question- you just saw a snappy banner which suited your agenda and posted it - it is completely irrelevant it deals with Stalinist ideals of the 1930s - which were Left Wing and attempts to define Stalin as a Conservative because he sought to conserve the Left WIng Communist ideals and neo Stalinist authoritarianism.

Get a Clue or STFU because all you posted was a lot of misleading gobbledy gook

It is not "semantics", it is political philosophy. Mao was NOT a liberal...

There is NOTHING liberal about communism...

Liberalism in China or Chinese liberalism resulted from the introduction of classical liberalism into China during the period of Western domination towards the end of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). Translations of John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Immanuel Kant, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and many other writers had a cumulative effect, as did the ascendancy of liberalism in world powers like Britain, France and the United States. The establishment of the Republic of China in 1911-12 signaled the acceptance (at least in principle) of these models and the liberal values with which they identified, such as constitutionalism and the separation of powers.

The writings of Liang Qichao (1873-1929) played a major role, despite his leanings to a conservative outlook in latter years. The New Culture Movement (1915-) and its immediate successor the May Fourth Movement (1919) initially were strongly liberal in character, with key figures like Hu Shi (1891-1962) as the preeminent exponent of liberal values. Other important liberals were Zhang Dongsun (1886-1976) and Zhang Junmai (1887-1969).

Liberalism was to suffer in the wake of the immense challenges China faced from Japanese militarism and the impact of the Communist movement. By the 1930s many of the younger generation felt that only radical, authoritarian doctrines could save the country. The Guomindang or Nationalist party absorbed a good deal of Fascist doctrine and practice. Liberalism increasingly seemed to serve as a forlorn "third force", able only to admonish authoritarian regimes of the Left and Right.

The ascendancy of Mao Zedong and the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949 brought the liberal impulse to its lowest level. Ideological witchhunts were organized against the (real or imaginary) followers of Hu Shi, and their values were ceaselessly derided as bourgeois delusions which could only weaken the nation.

With the collapse of Mao's ideology on his death, seeds of regeneration which had lain dormant gradually came to life. Liberal ideals like intellectual freedom, the separation of powers, civil society and the rule of law were reexamined in the light of the destruction wrought by the Communist party which had been so vociferous in denigrating them. Starting in the Cultural Revolution, many younger people experienced virtual conversions to liberalism. This process was given further impetus by the Tiananmen Square protests leading up to the massacre of June 4, 1989. The democracy movement espoused (however imperfectly) many liberal doctrines. Among the key figures were Wang Ruoshui (1926-2002), who while remaining a Marxist humanist reconfigured this doctrine along liberal lines, and Liu Xiaobo (b. 1955), initially a literary critic, who broke with Marxism to combine existentialist themes with liberalism.

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Hitler was NOT a socialist, he despised Marxists...educate yourself on The Night of the Long Knives where Hitler purged the socialists from the party.

For Adolf Hitler, the behavior of the SA was a problem that now threatened his own political survival and the entire future of the Nazi movement.

The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves. (The first revolution having been the Nazi seizure of power in early 1933.)

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Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party.

Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party

Are we even on the same page ? Comparing Apples to Oranges are you ?

The Tsarists were Conservative Right Wing -
The Mensheviks were left wing
The Bolsheviks were ultra Left wing

Stalin was a Bolshevik Ultra Left Wing - get your History straight pal. From our current perspective , he is more in line with Obama and company than with any right wing dogma.

So far as the rest of your post -kindly post a link as to where you copied and pasted from because you did not write that , and it is primarily long winded tripe - some of which is remotely relevant to the topic at hand.

You are also re-defining "Liberal" to suit your needs - which is basically boolean semantics - from our current perspective

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Obama are Left Wing [aka Liberal] scum bubbles -

WOW...

YOU are the one trying to redefine to suit your dogma and doctrinaire, and define conservatism using an American perspective. You folks on the right ONLY define conservatism from your parochial indoctrination and dogma. Hitler and Stalin were both big believers in Darwinism...survival of the fittest and/or richest. THAT is the mantra of today's right wing ideologues...the "let 'em die" crowd.

WHAT is conservatism?
noun
1. the disposition to preserve or restore what is established and traditional and to limit change.

Tell me Einstein, would a conservative in Russia want to 'conserve' free market capitalism? The US Constitution?? American traditions and orthodoxy???

Stalin was raised by an extremely abusive father who beat him and at 16 received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tbilisi. NONE of Stalin's upbringing was liberal or nurturing.

The Bolsheviks jettisoned 'socialism' in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism...and extreme profiteering.

There are links to all that was copied. Apology accepted.

 

[GreenBean]

Nope-
Hitler was a left winger
Stalin was left winger
Pol Pot was a left winger
Mao was a left winger
............................................. and so on and so on

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

Asinine Semantics - is that all you've got ?

Mao -When speaking of "Liberalism" in Post Revolutionary China was speaking about those Chinese that sought to soften his soften his Revolutionary policies - He was a Lefty and was responsible for the deaths of 50 - 80,000,000

Hitler - What you posted was 99% irrelevant to the topic at hand and more relevant to a religious thread - it is well known that Hitler was highly superstitious and spiritual but that has minimal relevance to the fact that he was a left wing socialist much like Obama and Clinton. Get with the program pal.

Stalin - I take it you didn't bother to read the article in question- you just saw a snappy banner which suited your agenda and posted it - it is completely irrelevant it deals with Stalinist ideals of the 1930s - which were Left Wing and attempts to define Stalin as a Conservative because he sought to conserve the Left WIng Communist ideals and neo Stalinist authoritarianism.

Get a Clue or STFU because all you posted was a lot of misleading gobbledy gook

It is not "semantics", it is political philosophy. Mao was NOT a liberal...

There is NOTHING liberal about communism...

Liberalism in China or Chinese liberalism resulted from the introduction of classical liberalism into China during the period of Western domination towards the end of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). Translations of John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Immanuel Kant, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and many other writers had a cumulative effect, as did the ascendancy of liberalism in world powers like Britain, France and the United States. The establishment of the Republic of China in 1911-12 signaled the acceptance (at least in principle) of these models and the liberal values with which they identified, such as constitutionalism and the separation of powers.

The writings of Liang Qichao (1873-1929) played a major role, despite his leanings to a conservative outlook in latter years. The New Culture Movement (1915-) and its immediate successor the May Fourth Movement (1919) initially were strongly liberal in character, with key figures like Hu Shi (1891-1962) as the preeminent exponent of liberal values. Other important liberals were Zhang Dongsun (1886-1976) and Zhang Junmai (1887-1969).

Liberalism was to suffer in the wake of the immense challenges China faced from Japanese militarism and the impact of the Communist movement. By the 1930s many of the younger generation felt that only radical, authoritarian doctrines could save the country. The Guomindang or Nationalist party absorbed a good deal of Fascist doctrine and practice. Liberalism increasingly seemed to serve as a forlorn "third force", able only to admonish authoritarian regimes of the Left and Right.

The ascendancy of Mao Zedong and the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949 brought the liberal impulse to its lowest level. Ideological witchhunts were organized against the (real or imaginary) followers of Hu Shi, and their values were ceaselessly derided as bourgeois delusions which could only weaken the nation.

With the collapse of Mao's ideology on his death, seeds of regeneration which had lain dormant gradually came to life. Liberal ideals like intellectual freedom, the separation of powers, civil society and the rule of law were reexamined in the light of the destruction wrought by the Communist party which had been so vociferous in denigrating them. Starting in the Cultural Revolution, many younger people experienced virtual conversions to liberalism. This process was given further impetus by the Tiananmen Square protests leading up to the massacre of June 4, 1989. The democracy movement espoused (however imperfectly) many liberal doctrines. Among the key figures were Wang Ruoshui (1926-2002), who while remaining a Marxist humanist reconfigured this doctrine along liberal lines, and Liu Xiaobo (b. 1955), initially a literary critic, who broke with Marxism to combine existentialist themes with liberalism.

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Hitler was NOT a socialist, he despised Marxists...educate yourself on The Night of the Long Knives where Hitler purged the socialists from the party.

For Adolf Hitler, the behavior of the SA was a problem that now threatened his own political survival and the entire future of the Nazi movement.

The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves. (The first revolution having been the Nazi seizure of power in early 1933.)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party.

Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party

Are we even on the same page ? Comparing Apples to Oranges are you ?

The Tsarists were Conservative Right Wing -
The Mensheviks were left wing
The Bolsheviks were ultra Left wing

Stalin was a Bolshevik Ultra Left Wing - get your History straight pal. From our current perspective , he is more in line with Obama and company than with any right wing dogma.

So far as the rest of your post -kindly post a link as to where you copied and pasted from because you did not write that , and it is primarily long winded tripe - some of which is remotely relevant to the topic at hand.

You are also re-defining "Liberal" to suit your needs - which is basically boolean semantics - from our current perspective

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Obama are Left Wing [aka Liberal] scum bubbles -

WOW...

YOU are the one trying to redefine to suit your dogma and doctrinaire, and define conservatism using an American perspective. You folks on the right ONLY define conservatism from your parochial indoctrination and dogma. Hitler and Stalin were both big believers in Darwinism...survival of the fittest and/or richest. THAT is the mantra of today's right wing ideologues...the "let 'em die" crowd.

WHAT is conservatism?
noun
1. the disposition to preserve or restore what is established and traditional and to limit change.

Tell me Einstein, would a conservative in Russia want to 'conserve' free market capitalism? The US Constitution?? American traditions and orthodoxy???

Stalin was raised by an extremely abusive father who beat him and at 16 received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tbilisi. NONE of Stalin's upbringing was liberal or nurturing.

The Bolsheviks jettisoned 'socialism' in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism...and extreme profiteering.

There are links to all that was copied. Apology accepted.

WHAT is conservatism?
noun
1. the disposition to preserve or restore what is established and traditional and to limit change.

So you are saying that Stalin sought to restore the Tsarist Monarchy ..... That Hitler sought to restore the Kaiser ... that Mao sought to restore Chang Kai chek to power ... WOW what history books have you been reading ...lmao.

The Bolsheviks jettisoned 'socialism'

The Bolsheviks never "jettisoned" socialism - in fact they spent most of the 20th Century trying to force it on the rest of the world , even tough it was a blatant failure in their own country.

YOU are the one trying to redefine... conservatism using an American perspective.

Well .. uh yeeeaaaahhh .... douchebag this is true ... considering we were discussing American Liberalism and drawing historical parallels to Hitler , Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot .

Speaking of Pol Pot - I noticed you conveniently evade that name on the list - I'll give you a clue - POL POT is not a polish cooking utensil.

 

[Bfgrn]

THIS Mao?

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism



THIS Hitler??

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.



THIS Stalin???

Asinine Semantics - is that all you've got ?

Mao -When speaking of "Liberalism" in Post Revolutionary China was speaking about those Chinese that sought to soften his soften his Revolutionary policies - He was a Lefty and was responsible for the deaths of 50 - 80,000,000

Hitler - What you posted was 99% irrelevant to the topic at hand and more relevant to a religious thread - it is well known that Hitler was highly superstitious and spiritual but that has minimal relevance to the fact that he was a left wing socialist much like Obama and Clinton. Get with the program pal.

Stalin - I take it you didn't bother to read the article in question- you just saw a snappy banner which suited your agenda and posted it - it is completely irrelevant it deals with Stalinist ideals of the 1930s - which were Left Wing and attempts to define Stalin as a Conservative because he sought to conserve the Left WIng Communist ideals and neo Stalinist authoritarianism.

Get a Clue or STFU because all you posted was a lot of misleading gobbledy gook

It is not "semantics", it is political philosophy. Mao was NOT a liberal...

There is NOTHING liberal about communism...

Liberalism in China or Chinese liberalism resulted from the introduction of classical liberalism into China during the period of Western domination towards the end of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911). Translations of John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Immanuel Kant, Jean-Jacques Rousseau and many other writers had a cumulative effect, as did the ascendancy of liberalism in world powers like Britain, France and the United States. The establishment of the Republic of China in 1911-12 signaled the acceptance (at least in principle) of these models and the liberal values with which they identified, such as constitutionalism and the separation of powers.

The writings of Liang Qichao (1873-1929) played a major role, despite his leanings to a conservative outlook in latter years. The New Culture Movement (1915-) and its immediate successor the May Fourth Movement (1919) initially were strongly liberal in character, with key figures like Hu Shi (1891-1962) as the preeminent exponent of liberal values. Other important liberals were Zhang Dongsun (1886-1976) and Zhang Junmai (1887-1969).

Liberalism was to suffer in the wake of the immense challenges China faced from Japanese militarism and the impact of the Communist movement. By the 1930s many of the younger generation felt that only radical, authoritarian doctrines could save the country. The Guomindang or Nationalist party absorbed a good deal of Fascist doctrine and practice. Liberalism increasingly seemed to serve as a forlorn "third force", able only to admonish authoritarian regimes of the Left and Right.

The ascendancy of Mao Zedong and the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949 brought the liberal impulse to its lowest level. Ideological witchhunts were organized against the (real or imaginary) followers of Hu Shi, and their values were ceaselessly derided as bourgeois delusions which could only weaken the nation.

With the collapse of Mao's ideology on his death, seeds of regeneration which had lain dormant gradually came to life. Liberal ideals like intellectual freedom, the separation of powers, civil society and the rule of law were reexamined in the light of the destruction wrought by the Communist party which had been so vociferous in denigrating them. Starting in the Cultural Revolution, many younger people experienced virtual conversions to liberalism. This process was given further impetus by the Tiananmen Square protests leading up to the massacre of June 4, 1989. The democracy movement espoused (however imperfectly) many liberal doctrines. Among the key figures were Wang Ruoshui (1926-2002), who while remaining a Marxist humanist reconfigured this doctrine along liberal lines, and Liu Xiaobo (b. 1955), initially a literary critic, who broke with Marxism to combine existentialist themes with liberalism.

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Hitler was NOT a socialist, he despised Marxists...educate yourself on The Night of the Long Knives where Hitler purged the socialists from the party.

For Adolf Hitler, the behavior of the SA was a problem that now threatened his own political survival and the entire future of the Nazi movement.

The anti-capitalist, anti-tradition sentiments often expressed by SA leaders and echoed by the restless masses of storm troopers also caused great concern to big industry leaders who had helped put Hitler in power. Hitler had promised them he would put down the trade union movement and Marxists, which he had done. However, now his own storm troopers with their talk of a 'second revolution' were sounding more and more like Marxists themselves. (The first revolution having been the Nazi seizure of power in early 1933.)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party.

Stalin was NO liberal. He led the right wing faction of the party and was opposed by the Leon Trotsky led left wing faction of the party

Are we even on the same page ? Comparing Apples to Oranges are you ?

The Tsarists were Conservative Right Wing -
The Mensheviks were left wing
The Bolsheviks were ultra Left wing

Stalin was a Bolshevik Ultra Left Wing - get your History straight pal. From our current perspective , he is more in line with Obama and company than with any right wing dogma.

So far as the rest of your post -kindly post a link as to where you copied and pasted from because you did not write that , and it is primarily long winded tripe - some of which is remotely relevant to the topic at hand.

You are also re-defining "Liberal" to suit your needs - which is basically boolean semantics - from our current perspective

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Obama are Left Wing [aka Liberal] scum bubbles -

WOW...

YOU are the one trying to redefine to suit your dogma and doctrinaire, and define conservatism using an American perspective. You folks on the right ONLY define conservatism from your parochial indoctrination and dogma. Hitler and Stalin were both big believers in Darwinism...survival of the fittest and/or richest. THAT is the mantra of today's right wing ideologues...the "let 'em die" crowd.

WHAT is conservatism?
noun
1. the disposition to preserve or restore what is established and traditional and to limit change.

Tell me Einstein, would a conservative in Russia want to 'conserve' free market capitalism? The US Constitution?? American traditions and orthodoxy???

Stalin was raised by an extremely abusive father who beat him and at 16 received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tbilisi. NONE of Stalin's upbringing was liberal or nurturing.

The Bolsheviks jettisoned 'socialism' in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism...and extreme profiteering.

There are links to all that was copied. Apology accepted.

WHAT is conservatism?
noun
1. the disposition to preserve or restore what is established and traditional and to limit change.

So you are saying that Stalin sought to restore the Tsarist Monarchy ..... That Hitler sought to restore the Kaiser ... that Mao sought to restore Chang Kai chek to power ... WOW what history books have you been reading ...lmao.

The Bolsheviks jettisoned 'socialism'

The Bolsheviks never "jettisoned" socialism - in fact they spent most of the 20th Century trying to force it on the rest of the world , even tough it was a blatant failure in their own country.

YOU are the one trying to redefine... conservatism using an American perspective.

Well .. uh yeeeaaaahhh .... douchebag this is true ... considering we were discussing American Liberalism and drawing historical parallels to Hitler , Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot .

Speaking of Pol Pot - I noticed you conveniently evade that name on the list - I'll give you a clue - POL POT is not a polish cooking utensil.

Douchebag? You just lost...

 

[SAYIT]

Why were the police approaching them in the first place. They were in front of an open store and one had a grocery bag in his hand? Is shopping while black probable cause to be confronted by the police on private property in the first place now?

One more thing, you race baiting jagoff.....The guy became a thug when he decided it was a good idea to draw down on a police officer.
if you point your gun at a cop, you start a gun fight the moment you refuse to obey commands to drop the weapon....

The guy was a thug long before his timely demise:

"The Post-Dispatch says that Martin had a running rap sheet with assaults, armed robbery and other criminal activity."

Antonio Martin Shot and Killed by White Officer in Berkeley Missouri News BET

 

[SAYIT]

Isn't amazing that same very small uneducated (right wing) brain has no problem with agents of government practicing profiling, UNLESS it is the IRS and tea party political groups applying for tax exempt status which prohibits political groups from qualifying for that status?

Oh the hypocrisy is palpable. I mean how dare the agency tasked with collecting tax revenue, profile groups who are open anti-tax and questioned whether they are legitimate or not. The nerve!

Man points gun at police officer. Police officer shoots man dead.

No problem.

Thinking that any unrest in MO is due to this event? Stupid.

Certainly polite of you to have signed your post.



You may have a point there...aside from the one on top of your head.


Latest evidence is that the protests have been engineered by communists, the same folks behind Occupy Wall Street.

"But that doesn’t mean that A.N.S.W.E.R. has given up on Communism. The front page of its site currently celebrates Barack Obama’s collaboration with the Castro regime with the banner headline “The Cuban Five Are FREE!”

Given all of that, we shouldn’t have been surprised to see that the current demonstrations in New York against the police are being led by the Communist, pro-terrorist International A.N.S.W.E.R. This is from the organization’s Twitter feed:

A.N.S.W.E.R. is close to unique, in that it advocates for pretty much every form of evil in the world. Who pays for it, what masters it serves, remains unknown. But that evil infuses its every act, is obvious."
Communists Are Behind the Anti-Police Protests In New York Power Line

This tactic has worked for decades controlling right wing morons like you...the red scare...

Pass that on to the 100 million corpses slaughtered by communists in the last century.

SO PC,

ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism) is an anti-war and social justice coalition with organizing centers in cities and towns across the country.

So PC, you are a blue blood American, you OPPOSE ANSWER...you are FOR war and racism.

Just as I always thought...

Yeah ... ANSWER is a truly "American" organization:

"ANSWER characterizes itself as anti-imperialist, and its steering committee consists of socialists, civil rights advocates, and left-wing or progressive organizations from the Muslim, Arab, Palestinian, Filipino, Haitian, and Latin American communities. Many of ANSWER's lead organizers had ties to the International Action Center, and Workers World Party at the time of ANSWER's founding."

A.N.S.W.E.R. - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia.

 

[Bfgrn]

Oh the hypocrisy is palpable. I mean how dare the agency tasked with collecting tax revenue, profile groups who are open anti-tax and questioned whether they are legitimate or not. The nerve!

Man points gun at police officer. Police officer shoots man dead.

No problem.

Thinking that any unrest in MO is due to this event? Stupid.

Certainly polite of you to have signed your post.



You may have a point there...aside from the one on top of your head.


Latest evidence is that the protests have been engineered by communists, the same folks behind Occupy Wall Street.

"But that doesn’t mean that A.N.S.W.E.R. has given up on Communism. The front page of its site currently celebrates Barack Obama’s collaboration with the Castro regime with the banner headline “The Cuban Five Are FREE!”

Given all of that, we shouldn’t have been surprised to see that the current demonstrations in New York against the police are being led by the Communist, pro-terrorist International A.N.S.W.E.R. This is from the organization’s Twitter feed:

A.N.S.W.E.R. is close to unique, in that it advocates for pretty much every form of evil in the world. Who pays for it, what masters it serves, remains unknown. But that evil infuses its every act, is obvious."
Communists Are Behind the Anti-Police Protests In New York Power Line

This tactic has worked for decades controlling right wing morons like you...the red scare...

Pass that on to the 100 million corpses slaughtered by communists in the last century.

SO PC,

ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism) is an anti-war and social justice coalition with organizing centers in cities and towns across the country.

So PC, you are a blue blood American, you OPPOSE ANSWER...you are FOR war and racism.

Just as I always thought...

Yeah ... ANSWER is a truly "American" organization:

"ANSWER characterizes itself as anti-imperialist, and its steering committee consists of socialists, civil rights advocates, and left-wing or progressive organizations from the Muslim, Arab, Palestinian, Filipino, Haitian, and Latin American communities. Many of ANSWER's lead organizers had ties to the International Action Center, and Workers World Party at the time of ANSWER's founding."

A.N.S.W.E.R. - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia.

Hey Adolf, America IS a land of immigrants. The only true native Americans looked like this...