Point #3 of Trump's HCP; Doesn't that equal the "free shit" you guys hate?

[S.J.]

Dancing around the questions....sad.

LMMAAAOOOOO another rube who thinks all her money belongs to govt....... policy holder paid=free in bizarro world

When the government is going to pay you back for it; yes it's free.

If I spend $3300 a year on insurance out of my pocket and the government pays me back $3300 for doing it; I got a year's worth of insurance for free.

Are you too dense to understand that? I don't think you are.

So, how is that not the "free shit" from the government you've been bitching about for 8 years?

Do you file taxes..... you realize a deduction is not a dollar for dollar situation.....and your health expenses have to reach a certain threshold before you can deduct them at all meaning its a deduction most upper income people dont get

Okay, great. Congratulations for answering a question. ..Here is what Trump says on his website:

• Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

There doesn't say there will be some sort of percentage, she sort of threshold, etc... That is what the proposal is.

Healthcare Reform


Now, again, once and for all. How is this different than the "free shit" from the government you guys have been bitching about for 8 years.

Hey moron, it means that you deduct the cost of your health insurance premiums from your gross adjusted income. It doesn't mean you get it for free, it just means you don't pay taxes on that amount of your income. Are you really that damn stupid?

 

[Manonthestreet]

more ignorance.....dumbass doesnt even know how a deduction works on tax form

 

[S.J.]

more ignorance.....dumbass doesnt even know how a deduction works on tax form

Probably because she's never paid taxes.

 

[Manonthestreet]

more ignorance.....dumbass doesnt even know how a deduction works on tax form

Probably because she's never paid taxes.

Somethin.......pretty sad........and they try to tell us how much smarter they are

 

[KGB]

Here is a quote from another thread:

Point #3: Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

That is the same as saying its going to be free insurance; paid for by the US Government.

How is this any different than the "free shit" from the government you guys have been railing against for 8 years?

I'm asking those who have deemed Trump their messiah:

Vigilante
DarkFury
S.J.
JimBowie1958
Odium
DigitalDrifter
Jackson
Stephanie
Missourian

But feel free to comment if you're not one of the disciples.

actually no. If you paid for the premium, you have to wait a year to recoup the cost & only if exceed the threshold on the standard deduction whereby it makes sense to itemize. And under the current system, it might only amount to a percentage. The "free shit crowd" most likely does not pay any tax which is far different. Thanks for displaying your ignorance on the tax code...

 

[kiwiman127]

Point #3: Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

Why this is Trump's version of socialism, in a round about way. Except when other world governments negotiate the cost of healthcare with their providers, they hold down the cost of healthcare. In Trump's world, it would encourage the healthcare industry to keep on raising their prices 3-4 times or more rate inflation. Why? Because Trump is not suggesting anything about negotiating healthcare costs. So who's going to pay the bill for all those premium deductions anyway? I would suggest, the American taxpayer with higher taxes or maybe Trump will increase the nation's debt by outlandish numbers..

 

[S.J.]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

 

[Manonthestreet]

Point #3: Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

Why this is Trump's version of socialism, in a round about way. Except when other world governments negotiate the cost of healthcare with their providers, they hold down the cost of healthcare. In Trump's world, it would encourage the healthcare industry to keep on raising their prices 3-4 times or more rate inflation. Why? Because Trump is not suggesting anything about negotiating healthcare costs. So who's going to pay the bill for all those premium deductions anyway? I would suggest, the American taxpayer with higher taxes or maybe Trump will increase the nation's debt by outlandish numbers..

Wrong....they would be required to publish their price instead of making it up after the fact depending on how much insurance you had.......

 

[kiwiman127]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Here is a quote from another thread:

Point #3: Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

That is the same as saying its going to be free insurance; paid for by the US Government.

How is this any different than the "free shit" from the government you guys have been railing against for 8 years?

How is it the same?

Do you understand what a tax deduction is?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I don't think that is what it is saying.

Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

IF that was what he was saying, he would have phrased it as "tax free"; not deductions. He phrased the HSAs as Tax Free.

There is no need to change the phraseology if you're saying the same thing.

You really need to just stop............

 

[S.J.]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

The funny part is that she was calling out everybody like she really had us on the ropes. Notice how she's too embarrassed to come back to the thread?

 

[candycorn]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

The funny part is that she was calling out everybody like she really had us on the ropes. Notice how she's too embarrassed to come back to the thread?

A drive to Tucson will do that.

Deducting what you spend on insurance and being rebated the money by the government is getting your insurance for free. You guys seem to be stating that it won't be dollar for dollar. Okay...if it is or isn't, you're still getting money from the government (i.e. "free shit").

 

[S.J.]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

The funny part is that she was calling out everybody like she really had us on the ropes. Notice how she's too embarrassed to come back to the thread?

A drive to Tucson will do that.

Deducting what you spend on insurance and being rebated the money by the government is getting your insurance for free. You guys seem to be stating that it won't be dollar for dollar. Okay...if it is or isn't, you're still getting money from the government (i.e. "free shit").

You were better off staying away. You still don't get it. You're not being rebated the money and your insurance is still NOT FREE. You just don't have to pay tax on the amount of money you spent for the insurance. This is basic stuff and you have to be an air head if you can't grasp it. No offense.

 

[bripat9643]

Dancing around the questions....sad.

LMMAAAOOOOO another rube who thinks all her money belongs to govt....... policy holder paid=free in bizarro world

When the government is going to pay you back for it; yes it's free.

If I spend $3300 a year on insurance out of my pocket and the government pays me back $3300 for doing it; I got a year's worth of insurance for free.

Are you too dense to understand that? I don't think you are.

So, how is that not the "free shit" from the government you've been bitching about for 8 years?

Do you file taxes..... you realize a deduction is not a dollar for dollar situation.....and your health expenses have to reach a certain threshold before you can deduct them at all meaning its a deduction most upper income people dont get

Okay, great. Congratulations for answering a question. ..Here is what Trump says on his website:

• Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

There doesn't say there will be some sort of percentage, she sort of threshold, etc... That is what the proposal is.

Healthcare Reform


Now, again, once and for all. How is this different than the "free shit" from the government you guys have been bitching about for 8 years.

It says "fully deduct" because now you can deduct them if they are over $7000. IN other words, they are partially deductible.

It's sad that even the simplest things have to be explained to leftwing morons.

 

[bripat9643]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

The funny part is that she was calling out everybody like she really had us on the ropes. Notice how she's too embarrassed to come back to the thread?

A drive to Tucson will do that.

Deducting what you spend on insurance and being rebated the money by the government is getting your insurance for free. You guys seem to be stating that it won't be dollar for dollar. Okay...if it is or isn't, you're still getting money from the government (i.e. "free shit").

Nope, only a full tax credit would do that.

 

[candycorn]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

The funny part is that she was calling out everybody like she really had us on the ropes. Notice how she's too embarrassed to come back to the thread?

A drive to Tucson will do that.

Deducting what you spend on insurance and being rebated the money by the government is getting your insurance for free. You guys seem to be stating that it won't be dollar for dollar. Okay...if it is or isn't, you're still getting money from the government (i.e. "free shit").

You were better off staying away. You still don't get it. You're not being rebated the money and your insurance is still NOT FREE. You just don't have to pay tax on the amount of money you spent for the insurance. This is basic stuff and you have to be an air head if you can't grasp it. No offense.

"Don't have to pay"

Thanks

 

[S.J.]

**crickets**

LMAO!!!

Didn't quite get the economics of it, did you?

The funny part is that she was calling out everybody like she really had us on the ropes. Notice how she's too embarrassed to come back to the thread?

A drive to Tucson will do that.

Deducting what you spend on insurance and being rebated the money by the government is getting your insurance for free. You guys seem to be stating that it won't be dollar for dollar. Okay...if it is or isn't, you're still getting money from the government (i.e. "free shit").

You were better off staying away. You still don't get it. You're not being rebated the money and your insurance is still NOT FREE. You just don't have to pay tax on the amount of money you spent for the insurance. This is basic stuff and you have to be an air head if you can't grasp it. No offense.

"Don't have to pay"

Thanks

Can't you just admit you didn't know what you were talking about?

 

[Claudette]

Here is a quote from another thread:

Point #3: Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

That is the same as saying its going to be free insurance; paid for by the US Government.

How is this any different than the "free shit" from the government you guys have been railing against for 8 years?

I'm asking those who have deemed Trump their messiah:

Vigilante
DarkFury
S.J.
JimBowie1958
Odium
DigitalDrifter
Jackson
Stephanie
Missourian

But feel free to comment if you're not one of the disciples.

Please post a quote of anyone you mentioned deeming Trump their messiah. If you can't, you should apologize.

An apology from Cornholio?? Don't hold your breath. Hell. She thinks Hitlery would be an awesome POTUS.

Nuff said.

 

[Conservative65]

Here is a quote from another thread:

Point #3: Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.

That is the same as saying its going to be free insurance; paid for by the US Government.

How is this any different than the "free shit" from the government you guys have been railing against for 8 years?

I'm asking those who have deemed Trump their messiah:

Vigilante
DarkFury
S.J.
JimBowie1958
Odium
DigitalDrifter
Jackson
Stephanie
Missourian

But feel free to comment if you're not one of the disciples.

No, it's not the same as saying it's going to be free insurance. It shows you think a deduction actually allows someone's taxes to be as much less as the deduction. In case you were unaware, that's already happening across the country in many cases. Many employers do pre tax deductions for things like healthcare. My wife pays a portion of her coverage and her employer pays the rest as part of her compensation. The portion my wife pays is deducted before income taxes are deducted. In other words, because of it, her income is less due to the deduction. Look at a W2 form. Line 1 for many is less than the lines showing SS/Medicare income. The latter is based on everything earned,whereas, income in determined on line 1 after allowing deductions such as healthcare costs are taken. Been that way for years.