PM to Abbas

[aris2chat]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

 

[MisterBeale]

He's going to work tirelessly for peace while he gives the okay to have settlement activity continue?

Everything he said was empty rhetoric.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Daniyel]

MisterBeale Every time the Palestinians ever agreed for "peace talks" They had their list of demands which they don't get to dictate but for the sake of good will Israel fulfilled time and again, including the release of terrorists (many with blood on their hands) just to discuss peace-
Most of those terrorists returned to their habit and some even murdered and even worse - None of these talks were fruitful, all canceled by the Palestinians(Abbas) after Israel fulfilled the terms-
Do you see where I'm going here? Palestinians want peace? They better earn it, with this rate we had to stop obeying their little ego games because we wouldnt have any more innocents civilians blood screaming from their fresh grave about the Palestinians carelessness for life, this really piss me off.

 

[MisterBeale]

MisterBeale Every time the Palestinians ever agreed for "peace talks" They had their list of demands which they don't get to dictate but for the sake of good will Israel fulfilled time and again, including the release of terrorists (many with blood on their hands) just to discuss peace-
Most of those terrorists returned to their habit and some even murdered and even worse - None of these talks were fruitful, all canceled by the Palestinians(Abbas) after Israel fulfilled the terms-
Do you see where I'm going here? Palestinians want peace? They better earn it, with this rate we had to stop obeying their little ego games because we wouldnt have any more innocents civilians blood screaming from their fresh grave about the Palestinians carelessness for life, this really piss me off.

In time, the Anglo-American Empire will not be able to continue business as usual. It is already starting to come to a head if you follow Deep Politics.

That is the impetus of this message from this war hawk.

He is in some seriously dire straights, and not from pressure being put onto him from the PA. It is from pressure being put onto him from the international community and domestically.

When the US and western economic infrastructure crumble, and Israel is on it's own, it will have two choices, live in peace and equity with it's neighbors, or the Samson option.



If you TRULY believe the propaganda you have been digesting, if you truly believe this has been a one sided conflict and that there is no aggressive, selfish, diabolical interests that have been self-serving on the side of that Zionists for the past 80 years, then you will shed no tears when they take that Samson option.

We will have far bigger problems here in the States, and by that time, most Americans will not care that the whole damned place will go up in a fire ball. . . seriously.


It's their problem, not ours.


They must give the land back or, eventually, everyone out there will all die. It is as simple as that.


The US has bigger problems.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

The Palestinians have been going backwards for 20 years. They don't need any more fake peace talks.

 

[Shusha]

Five steps to peace.

1. Stop terrorism.
2. Stop trying to kill Jews using terrorism.
3. Stop inciting people to kill Jews as terrorism.
4. Stop terrorism.
5. Oh yeah, and stop terrorism.


Meanwhile, a poster attempts to make a moral equivalence by saying that the obstacle to peace is Jewish "settlements". In other words that the obstacle to peace is Jewish people living where they are not supposed to. In other words, the mere presence of Jewish people is the reason there can be no peace. In other words, the only way to have peace is for certain lands to be cleansed of the Jewish people.

Wow. sarcasm The Jewish people have never experienced THAT before. /sarcasm.

And, to bring the point home, shall Israel demand the same? That no Arabs should live in Israel? That the presence of Arabs living in Jerusalem and in Israel is the obstacle to peace and that Israel must be cleansed of them? (And no, I am not saying that we should do that. Nor are the Jewish people. Nor is the Israeli people or the Israeli government).



And then, said poster, begs us not to fund the killing of Gazan children. On a post which is, at its essence, demanding that Palestinians stop killing Jews. It is a reversal of cause and effect. It is reversal of the truth. Its a clear demonstration that many posters, and many people, are not arguing clear, objective ideas -- but arguing against an entire people.

 

[MisterBeale]

Five steps to peace.

1. Stop terrorism.
2. Stop trying to kill Jews using terrorism.
3. Stop inciting people to kill Jews as terrorism.
4. Stop terrorism.
5. Oh yeah, and stop terrorism.


Meanwhile, a poster attempts to make a moral equivalence by saying that the obstacle to peace is Jewish "settlements". In other words that the obstacle to peace is Jewish people living where they are not supposed to. In other words, the mere presence of Jewish people is the reason there can be no peace. In other words, the only way to have peace is for certain lands to be cleansed of the Jewish people.

Wow. sarcasm The Jewish people have never experienced THAT before. /sarcasm.

And, to bring the point home, shall Israel demand the same? That no Arabs should live in Israel? That the presence of Arabs living in Jerusalem and in Israel is the obstacle to peace and that Israel must be cleansed of them? (And no, I am not saying that we should do that. Nor are the Jewish people. Nor is the Israeli people or the Israeli government).



And then, said poster, begs us not to fund the killing of Gazan children. On a post which is, at its essence, demanding that Palestinians stop killing Jews. It is a reversal of cause and effect. It is reversal of the truth. Its a clear demonstration that many posters, and many people, are not arguing clear, objective ideas -- but arguing against an entire people.

You have a very strange way of looking at segregation, racism and oppression.

 

[Shusha]

You have a very strange way of looking at segregation, racism and oppression.

Strange, in that I think it should be applied to ALL people, including the Jewish people?

 

[Shusha]

Or strange that I think terrorism is evil and should not be tolerated or justified?

 

[MisterBeale]

Neither should war criminals.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza case studies: Weapons use

 

[MisterBeale]

The Israeli government actively supports terrorism. So does the US government. No one's hands are clean here.

If you think they are, you haven't done your research and know nothing about the Deep State.

Both the US, and Israel fund the M.E.K. By the State dept. own def., that is terrorism.

 

[Shusha]

Gaza case studies? Seriously?

Hamas is firing indiscriminate rockets at a civilian population. Palestinians are stabbing people. Palestinians are running over innocent people with cars and trucks. That is terrorism. You can complain all you want that someone isn't handling terrorism "correctly" or "good enough" or "safely enough". But its kinda stupid to argue that without addressing, you know, the ACTUAL terrorism.

 

[Shusha]

The Israeli government actively supports terrorism.

Please provide evidence.

And no -- defending its citizens from terrorist attacks is NOT "terrorism". Terrorism is the intent to use the killing of innocent civilians to incite fear for gain. Please demonstrate how Israel has EVER done this. While innocent civilians do indeed die in the context of a defensive war, this is not terrorism.

 

[Daniyel]

MisterBeale Every time the Palestinians ever agreed for "peace talks" They had their list of demands which they don't get to dictate but for the sake of good will Israel fulfilled time and again, including the release of terrorists (many with blood on their hands) just to discuss peace-
Most of those terrorists returned to their habit and some even murdered and even worse - None of these talks were fruitful, all canceled by the Palestinians(Abbas) after Israel fulfilled the terms-
Do you see where I'm going here? Palestinians want peace? They better earn it, with this rate we had to stop obeying their little ego games because we wouldnt have any more innocents civilians blood screaming from their fresh grave about the Palestinians carelessness for life, this really piss me off.

In time, the Anglo-American Empire will not be able to continue business as usual. It is already starting to come to a head if you follow Deep Politics.

That is the impetus of this message from this war hawk.

He is in some seriously dire straights, and not from pressure being put onto him from the PA. It is from pressure being put onto him from the international community and domestically.

When the US and western economic infrastructure crumble, and Israel is on it's own, it will have two choices, live in peace and equity with it's neighbors, or the Samson option.



If you TRULY believe the propaganda you have been digesting, if you truly believe this has been a one sided conflict and that there is no aggressive, selfish, diabolical interests that have been self-serving on the side of that Zionists for the past 80 years, then you will shed no tears when they take that Samson option.

We will have far bigger problems here in the States, and by that time, most Americans will not care that the whole damned place will go up in a fire ball. . . seriously.


It's their problem, not ours.


They must give the land back or, eventually, everyone out there will all die. It is as simple as that.


The US has bigger problems.

No Sir, you are deeply wrong that surrendering to extortions and violence would bare any positive situations.

Happened to us before not once but many times, and unlike the US official position on simply "negotiating with terrorists" - we take it as a granted choice for the reason we (Israelis) prioritize the value of life and security over the American top priority of exterminating tyranny and fighting for freedom. (Which is on different scales, true, but we are very alike regarding the two positions)

Therefore it is a must to eradicate all people who believe in terrorizing others as step one, unfortunately, Israel sometimes chooses to act differently (instead of taking the American stand) and this is why people were murdered for fear.

Where there's no light there's darkness and for that reason I believe the whole world is to be put ashame for turning a blind eye to other humans lives. (Not just in the US, the ME, but everywhere around the world)

So do you want to help changing the world for the better? Start here.

 

[Shusha]

No Sir, you are deeply wrong that surrendering to extortions and violence would bare any positive situations.

Yes. This. Surrendering to or rewarding violence only entrenches that behaviour as an acceptable and reliable means of obtaining one's goals. If you want peace, you must invest in peace. First.

Therefore it is a must to eradicate all people who believe in terrorizing others as step one

Well, I would say rather that we eradicate the ideology that terrorism is acceptable and that it will get you what you want. Israel should make an effort to ensure there are consequences for each act of terrorism.

 

[aris2chat]

Five steps to peace.

1. Stop terrorism.
2. Stop trying to kill Jews using terrorism.
3. Stop inciting people to kill Jews as terrorism.
4. Stop terrorism.
5. Oh yeah, and stop terrorism.


Meanwhile, a poster attempts to make a moral equivalence by saying that the obstacle to peace is Jewish "settlements". In other words that the obstacle to peace is Jewish people living where they are not supposed to. In other words, the mere presence of Jewish people is the reason there can be no peace. In other words, the only way to have peace is for certain lands to be cleansed of the Jewish people.

Wow. sarcasm The Jewish people have never experienced THAT before. /sarcasm.

And, to bring the point home, shall Israel demand the same? That no Arabs should live in Israel? That the presence of Arabs living in Jerusalem and in Israel is the obstacle to peace and that Israel must be cleansed of them? (And no, I am not saying that we should do that. Nor are the Jewish people. Nor is the Israeli people or the Israeli government).



And then, said poster, begs us not to fund the killing of Gazan children. On a post which is, at its essence, demanding that Palestinians stop killing Jews. It is a reversal of cause and effect. It is reversal of the truth. Its a clear demonstration that many posters, and many people, are not arguing clear, objective ideas -- but arguing against an entire people.

You have a very strange way of looking at segregation, racism and oppression.

Then sit down and talk about it without precondition and demands

Talk

How does it make sense, if you (leader) compromise you get kill
if you don't have some basis for an agreement, the people will be killed

Answer to the video............gaze rockets that were shot down.

guess they want more conflict all the way to canceling the vote

 

[aris2chat]

WHAT THE QUR'AN REALLY SAYS


by Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi

The Qur'an and the Land of Israel

 

[Challenger]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

 

[rylah]

Common sense

My Message to President Abbas: 5 Steps for Peace

So this is a message to President Abbas? Why isn't it in Arabic? Nutandyahoo is just playing to the gullable American audience, nothing more needs to be said.

Sure then Abbas would answer in Hebrew I guess and problem solved.
Never let yourself be challenged by simple facts right?