Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[EMH]

air density is used in the equation to calculate atmospheric pressure

which includes TEMPERATURE, dumbass...


Air density is mass/volume, no temp in calc.

Pressure has temp in calc... P = nRT/V
P= nRT/V

V = volume (m³)

n = number of gas particles (mol)

R = universal gas constant (8.31446261815324 m³⋅Pa⋅K⁻¹⋅mol⁻¹)

T = temperature (K)

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Correct because warmer air has HIGHER PRESSURE than COLDER AIR and hence forces air HIGHER against the force constraint of gravity, hence reducing by a pathetically microscopically small amount the force of gravity on the air column above it.... BUT... the HEAT INCREASE increases pressure at the surface by MORE THAN the loss by expansion....


proven by Mars and Pluto, and your side has no planet that refutes it... sorry...

are you CHOSEN to be WRONG all the time?

BUT... the HEAT INCREASE increases pressure at the surface by MORE THAN the loss by expansion....

If only you had some sources that supported your claim.

proven by Mars and Pluto,

When carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of Mars turns into a solid, pressure drops.
When solid nitrogen on Pluto's surface turns into a gas, pressure increases.

your side has no planet that refutes it...

You still haven't refuted Earth with Uranus. Keep trying. It's hilarious.

 

[EMH]

Density is not pressure.

Who said it was? Where? Link?

Ding

We have 2 data points, Pluto and Mars, and they both show that

1. warming THE PLANET increases surface air pressure
2. cooling THE PLANET reduces surface air pressure

You left out the 3rd, most important data point, Earth.

3. warming THE PLANET decreases surface air pressure

3. Jurassic Earth = warmer, higher surface air pressure

Still waiting for a planet data point for your side...

 

[EMH]

BUT... the HEAT INCREASE increases pressure at the surface by MORE THAN the loss by expansion....

If only you had some sources that supported your claim.

proven by Mars and Pluto,

When carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of Mars turns into a solid, pressure drops.
When solid nitrogen on Pluto's surface turns into a gas, pressure increases.

Fortunately we have a "skateboard" on Mars that has busted your lying ass...


Relative to Earth, the air on Mars is extremely thin. Standard sea-level air pressure on Earth is 1,013 millibars. On Mars the surface pressure varies through the year, but it averages 6 to 7 millibars.

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Mars surface air pressure is about the orbit of Mars. The big decline is when it is furthest away from the Sun = cooler.

You seem to argue that surface air pressure "spikes up" right before it goes to zero on Pluto. You have no evidence of this.


The Mars "skateboard" proves surface air pressure on Mars tracks where Mars is on its orbit, which determines its overall temperature.



Mars' aphelion distance is 1.666 AU and its perihelion distance is 1.381 AU

 

[ding]

which includes TEMPERATURE, dumbass...


Air density is mass/volume, no temp in calc.

Pressure has temp in calc... P = nRT/V
P= nRT/V

V = volume (m³)

n = number of gas particles (mol)

R = universal gas constant (8.31446261815324 m³⋅Pa⋅K⁻¹⋅mol⁻¹)

T = temperature (K)

Stay down, bitch.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ding






3. Jurassic Earth = warmer, higher surface air pressure

Still waiting for a planet data point for your side...

Where did Ding say "Density is pressure"? Link?

Jurassic Earth = warmer, higher surface air pressure

Now all you need is a source that shows surface air pressure during the Jurassic was higher because it was warmer.

Still waiting for a planet data point for your side.

Earth. Let me know if you ever plan to visit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You seem to argue that surface air pressure "spikes up" right before it goes to zero on Pluto.

That's not my argument at all.

 

[EMH]

Jurassic Earth = warmer, higher surface air pressure

Now all you need is a source that shows surface air pressure during the Jurassic was higher because it was warmer

Nice try....

We have THREE PLANETS that validate EMH's claim that increasing the temperature of the planet increases surface air pressure.

Your side has ZERO.

The only source EMH ever needs is THE ACTUAL DATA. Your side always uses FUDGE, FRAUD, and flat out LIES.


You are a chosen lying coward of a failed "climate scientist"

 

[EMH]

That's not my argument at all.

What is your claim, you claim warming a planet's atmosphere decreases surface air pressure, or did you go back and delete/edit those like Ding does all the time...

 

[EMH]

Still waiting for a planet data point for your side.

Earth. Let me know if you ever plan to visit.

WRONG

Jurassic refutes you completely = warmer and higher surface air pressure

When do you claim Earth did something differently?

 

[ding]

Ding

You can't even read.

air density is used in the equation to calculate atmospheric pressure

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nice try....

We have THREE PLANETS that validate EMH's claim that increasing the temperature of the planet increases surface air pressure.

Your side has ZERO.

The only source EMH ever needs is THE ACTUAL DATA. Your side always uses FUDGE, FRAUD, and flat out LIES.


You are a chosen lying coward of a failed "climate scientist"

Still no source that helps your claim?

Weird.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is your claim, you claim warming a planet's atmosphere decreases surface air pressure, or did you go back and delete/edit those like Ding does all the time...

you claim warming a planet's atmosphere decreases surface air pressure,

Only because it does.

 

[EMH]

Still no source that helps your claim?

Weird.

No "source" needed. Truth is that which cannot be refuted, and to date you and the Co2 FRAUD have refuted precisely nothing EMH has posted on Earth climate change.

 

[EMH]

you claim warming a planet's atmosphere decreases surface air pressure,

Only because it does.

Not according to Mars, Pluto, and Jurassic Earth.

You have no data to support your claim, because what you are claiming is hour by hour wind changes, heat rises bullshit. All of that noise washes out in year over year comparisons.


YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG AND WAY TOO CHOSEN TO ADMIT IT

 

[ding]

Not according to Mars, Pluto, and Jurassic Earth.

You have no data to support your claim, because what you are claiming is hour by hour wind changes, heat rises bullshit. All of that noise washes out in year over year comparisons.


YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG AND WAY TOO CHOSEN TO ADMIT IT

Do you know that you are dumb? I mean do you ever get glimpses of just how dumb you are? Or are you so dumb that you are oblivious to your stupidity?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

WRONG

Jurassic refutes you completely = warmer and higher surface air pressure

When do you claim Earth did something differently?

Jurassic refutes you completely = warmer and higher surface air pressure

No source that shows air pressure was higher just because it was warmer?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not according to Mars, Pluto, and Jurassic Earth.

You have no data to support your claim, because what you are claiming is hour by hour wind changes, heat rises bullshit. All of that noise washes out in year over year comparisons.


YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG AND WAY TOO CHOSEN TO ADMIT IT

Let's take your stupid examples one at a time.

On Mars, after all the frozen CO2 turns into a gas and the temperature goes up 2 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down? Now it goes up 5 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down?

On Pluto, after all the frozen nitrogen turns into a gas and the temperature goes up 2 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down? Now it goes up 5 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down?

On Jurassic Earth, when the temperature went up 2 degrees, did the pressure go up or down? When the temperature went down 5 degrees, did the pressure go up or down?

 

[EMH]

Jurassic refutes you completely = warmer and higher surface air pressure

No source that shows air pressure was higher just because it was warmer?

Don't have to. Three planets prove warmer = higher surface air pressure. Don't like it, you can cry about weather again...

 

[EMH]

Let's take your stupid examples one at a time.

On Mars, after all the frozen CO2 turns into a gas and the temperature goes up 2 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down? Now it goes up 5 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down?

On Pluto, after all the frozen nitrogen turns into a gas and the temperature goes up 2 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down? Now it goes up 5 more degrees, does the pressure go up or down?

On Jurassic Earth, when the temperature went up 2 degrees, did the pressure go up or down? When the temperature went down 5 degrees, did the pressure go up or down?

The data on Mars is a complete bust of what you are saying. It tracks the orbit and hence planetary temperature.

Where do you get 2 or 5 degrees from?

When gas trapped in ice is liberated back into the atmosphere because the ice melted, that increases surface air pressure. Any planetary warming increases surface air pressure, and the Mars data proves it. It isn't just about freezing point of Co2, it is a track of the orbit in every aspect. Jurassic and Mars and Pluto all validate EMH and refute you.