Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[EMH]

No, that's your side, Apu.

Apu cannot explain it either.

Surface Air Pressure on Earth is on an 80 year down trend, and your Co2 FRAUD side is trying to explain that with day to day weather BULLSHIT.


Your side claims warming and net ongoing ice melt. Both, if happening, would increase surface air pressure.

But Neither is happening, and SURFACE AIR PRESSURE proves that.

 

[ding]

Apu cannot explain it either.

Surface Air Pressure on Earth is on an 80 year down trend, and your Co2 FRAUD side is trying to explain that with day to day weather BULLSHIT.


Your side claims warming and net ongoing ice melt. Both, if happening, would increase surface air pressure.

But Neither is happening, and SURFACE AIR PRESSURE proves that.

You are Apu.

Water vapor decreases the density of airbecause water molecules are lighter than the primary components of air (nitrogen and oxygen), so when water vapor is added to air, it displaces heavier air molecules, resulting in a lower overall density; essentially, humid air is less dense than dry air at the same temperature and pressure.

Density of air - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[EMH]

You are Apu.

Water vapor decreases the density of airbecause water molecules are lighter than the primary components of air (nitrogen and oxygen), so when water vapor is added to air, it displaces heavier air molecules, resulting in a lower overall density; essentially, humid air is less dense than dry air at the same temperature and pressure.

Density of air - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In summary, the Co2 FRAUD cannot explain why Surface Air Pressure on Earth is dropping, and has for 80 years...

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average for the period 1963–2005.​

And because they cannot explain that, since they claim Earth is both warming and undergoing an ongoing net ice melt, they have to blur the issue with day to day weather....

The middle of a hurricane has less surface air pressure. Right there. That is not planetary, it is WEATHER...


Pluto and Mars prove that as a planet cools, its surface air pressure goes DOWN.

The Co2 FRAUD is COMPLETELY BUSTED here.


Now for more endless Ding bullshit about day to day weather... which does not explain why EARTH surface air pressure has been dropping for decades as the Co2 FRAUD claims both warming and ongoing net ice melt.

 

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In summary, the Co2 FRAUD cannot explain why Surface Air Pressure on Earth is dropping, and has for 80 years...

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average for the period 1963–2005.​

And because they cannot explain that, since they claim Earth is both warming and undergoing an ongoing net ice melt, they have to blur the issue with day to day weather....

The middle of a hurricane has less surface air pressure. Right there. That is not planetary, it is WEATHER...


Pluto and Mars prove that as a planet cools, its surface air pressure goes DOWN.

The Co2 FRAUD is COMPLETELY BUSTED here.


Now for more endless Ding bullshit about day to day weather... which does not explain why EARTH surface air pressure has been dropping for decades as the Co2 FRAUD claims both warming and ongoing net ice melt.

Apu sez wut?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Two planets refute your ass, Pluto and Mars.

Do you have any evidence that warming decreases a planet's atmospheric pressure?

NO

The colder air is, the more likely different gasses will turn to liquid or solid. Ever pass a junior high science class? Didn't think so...

Do you have any evidence that warming decreases a planet's atmospheric pressure?

Greater activity of the heated molecules increases the spacing between neighboring molecules and thus reduces air density. The decreasing air density then lowers the pressure exerted by the air. Warm air is thus lighter (less dense) than cold air and consequently exerts less pressure.

Pressure

www.weather.gov

The colder air is, the more likely different gasses will turn to liquid or solid.

When carbon dioxide starts freezing out of our atmosphere, you'll still be wrong about
the reason for current lower surface air pressure on Earth.
Let me know if you ever find any backup for your moronic claim for Earth.....today.
If the Jews haven't hidden it all from your dumb ass.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How do we get Co2 readings from ice cores???

CO2 Ice Core Data

CO2.Earth connects the general public with the latest data and information for stabilizing earth's atmosphere, climate and living environments.

www.co2.earth

Areas with accumulating snow turn to ice with air bubbles that preserve samples of the atmosphere from world atmospheres of the past.

Google Search

www.google.com

An old rule of thumb was that for every 10 inches of snow, there would be 1 inch of water (10:1). However, this is far from the norm, and recent studies indicate that a 12:1 ratio might be more representative (on average) for the Upper Midwest.



So yeah, every year it snows on Greenland, and that forms another layer of ice, and we can check the atmospheric composition of that year from the gas trapped in that ice.... DUH...

Cool story.

You ever show how much air is trapped in the ice?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Adding gas molecules to an atmosphere reduces pressure = MORON

How many molecules have been added? Link?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you warm the whole atmosphere, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES...

If you warm the whole atmosphere, the atmosphere expands.

 

[ding]

This is good.. for humor purposes ... what is being replaced??

When H2O is added to the atmosphere... what is "replaced?"

On Earth, NOTHING.

Air is being DISPLACED by water vapor. The atmosphere does not have a fixed volume; as a mixture of gases, it expands to fill the space available to it, meaning its volume changes depending on pressure and temperature conditions, making it not fixed.

Learn some science, dummy.

 

[ding]

If you warm the whole atmosphere, the atmosphere expands.

Correct. You know your science. The atmosphere does not have a fixed volume; as a mixture of gases, it expands to fill the space available to it, meaning its volume changes depending on pressure and temperature conditions, making it not fixed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Air is being DISPLACED by water vapor. The atmosphere does not have a fixed volume; as a mixture of gases, it expands to fill the space available to it, meaning its volume changes depending on pressure and temperature conditions, making it not fixed.

Learn some science, dummy.

He says the atmosphere is force constrained. Or something similarly moronic.
As if that somehow proves heating it doesn't increase volume/decrease pressure.

 

[EMH]

thus reduces air density

Density is not pressure.

The density of a substance is the relationship between the mass of the substance and how much space it takes up (volume).

Air pressure is the force that the air exerts on the Earth

Warm air is thus lighter (less dense) than cold air and consequently exerts less pressure.

The same broken record over and over, warm air rises, except in a WARMER ATMOSPHERE, ALL AIR IS WARMER....


We have 2 data points, Pluto and Mars, and they both show that

1. warming THE PLANET increases surface air pressure
2. cooling THE PLANET reduces surface air pressure


your side has ZERO evidence to refute that, which is why your side is reduced to blabbering about daily weather air flows...


So while there is an increase in air pressure when you go from the eye of a hurricane to outside the hurricane, that is still weather and noise, not a 70 year trend in SURFACE AIR PRESSURE...

and you and the Co2 FRAUD are absolutely busted here.

YOU WERE WRONG, and PLUTO and MARS both PROVE IT.

 

[EMH]

If you warm the whole atmosphere, the atmosphere expands.

Correct because warmer air has HIGHER PRESSURE than COLDER AIR and hence forces air HIGHER against the force constraint of gravity, hence reducing by a pathetically microscopically small amount the force of gravity on the air column above it.... BUT... the HEAT INCREASE increases pressure at the surface by MORE THAN the loss by expansion....


proven by Mars and Pluto, and your side has no planet that refutes it... sorry...

are you CHOSEN to be WRONG all the time?

 

[ding]

Correct because warmer air has HIGHER PRESSURE than COLDER AIR and hence forces air HIGHER against the force constraint of gravity, hence reducing by a pathetically microscopically small amount the force of gravity on the air column above it.... BUT... the HEAT INCREASE increases pressure at the surface by MORE THAN the loss by expansion....


proven by Mars and Pluto, and your side has no planet that refutes it... sorry...

are you CHOSEN to be WRONG all the time?

Atmospheric pressure isn't greater for warm air than it is cold air, you moron. Warmer air produces a lower atmospheric pressure than colder air because warmer air is less dense than colder air. Google it. Atmospheric pressure is a function of air density. The atmosphere is not a fixed volume. You are a fucking science retard.

 

[EMH]

Atmospheric pressure isn't greater for warm air than it is cold air

Surface air pressure is, because the surface air pressure is about 2 things

1. the mass of the gas column above it pulled down by gravity
2. temperature, the higher the temperature, the more the force


and that's what Pluto and Mars prove.

Found a planet where surface air pressure increases as THE PLANET gets cooler.... no, keep trying, many planets out there to see if one fits your delusional idiocy...

 

[ding]

Surface air pressure is, because the surface air pressure is about 2 things

1. the mass of the gas column above it pulled down by gravity
2. temperature, the higher the temperature, the more the force


and that's what Pluto and Mars prove.

Found a planet where surface air pressure increases as THE PLANET gets cooler.... no, keep trying, many planets out there to see if one fits your delusional idiocy...

Both of which are accounted for in air density, you dumb fuck.

 

[EMH]

Both of which are accounted for in air density, you dumb fuck.

WRONG, air density changes because of temp, but density is a measurement devoid of temps, surface air pressure is not.

 

[ding]

WRONG, air density changes because of temp, but density is a measurement devoid of temps, surface air pressure is not.

You dumb fuck, air density is used in the equation to calculate atmospheric pressure. Air density depends upon the components (type and amount) in the air mixture and temperature. You use air density to calaculate atmospheric pressure. You use the amounts and concentrations of the components and temperature to calculate the density.

So when I tell your dumb ass that increased temperature leads to decreased atmospheric pressure it's because density decreases as temperature increases and when I tell you that increased water vapor lowers atmospheric pressure it's because the lighter water vapor molecules displaced the heavier oxygen and nitrogen molecules and decreased the density. And the displaced oxygen and nitrogen molecules did not increase pressure because the volume of the atmosphere is not fixed, you idiot. Now run along and fuck off.

 

[ding]

Stay the fuck down.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Density is not pressure.

The density of a substance is the relationship between the mass of the substance and how much space it takes up (volume).

Air pressure is the force that the air exerts on the Earth






The same broken record over and over, warm air rises, except in a WARMER ATMOSPHERE, ALL AIR IS WARMER....


We have 2 data points, Pluto and Mars, and they both show that

1. warming THE PLANET increases surface air pressure
2. cooling THE PLANET reduces surface air pressure


your side has ZERO evidence to refute that, which is why your side is reduced to blabbering about daily weather air flows...


So while there is an increase in air pressure when you go from the eye of a hurricane to outside the hurricane, that is still weather and noise, not a 70 year trend in SURFACE AIR PRESSURE...

and you and the Co2 FRAUD are absolutely busted here.

YOU WERE WRONG, and PLUTO and MARS both PROVE IT.

Density is not pressure.

Who said it was? Where? Link?

The same broken record over and over, warm air rises, except in a WARMER ATMOSPHERE, ALL AIR IS WARMER....

Warmer than what?

We have 2 data points, Pluto and Mars, and they both show that

1. warming THE PLANET increases surface air pressure
2. cooling THE PLANET reduces surface air pressure

You left out the 3rd, most important data point, Earth.

3. warming THE PLANET decreases surface air pressure