Pluto and Surface Air Pressure

[EMH]

Any of them.

Pick one...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And then there is the truth from Mars, that your statement is completely refuted by the ACTUAL DATA...

Surface Air Pressure is very much correlated with temperature per THE ACTUAL DATA FROM MARS.


The claim that SAP is higher during NORTHERN HEMISPHERE WINTER on Earth ignores the fact that Earth is closer to the Sun during that time period, and hence does precisely what Mars and Pluto do,


closer to Sun = higher SAP


and the claim that cooling increases SAP is completely wrong and typical of the level of idiocy of those funded by the Co2 FRAUD like you...

The claim that SAP is higher during NORTHERN HEMISPHERE WINTER

Claim? Like an unproven claim? Are you saying it's not actually higher?
Or is it a fact that it's higher? You can say it's a fact.


on Earth ignores the fact that Earth is closer to the Sun during that time period,

Closer means it receives more energy from the sun, right?
And that's why SAP is higher in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE WINTER?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Mostly. But when you add gas to any atmosphere of a planet, the planet warms because it holds more heat from its star/Sun.

And, as we all know now, increase in temperature increases SAP.... so that's part of the increase too. Jurassic 10-30F warmer than now.

But when you add gas to any atmosphere of a planet, the planet warms because it holds more heat from its star/Sun.

Right. Like added CO2 warms the Earth.

All glacier ice traps enough air to increase SAP 3-5 fold, diluted a bit by a 20-30F temp increase.

There it is again, SAP diluted by a temperature increase.
How does increased temperature "dilute SAP"?

 

[EMH]

The claim that SAP is higher during NORTHERN HEMISPHERE WINTER

Claim? Like an unproven claim? Are you saying it's not actually higher?
Or is it a fact that it's higher? You can say it's a fact.


on Earth ignores the fact that Earth is closer to the Sun during that time period,

Closer means it receives more energy from the sun, right?
And that's why SAP is higher in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE WINTER?

The atmosphere's pressure "fills out." Day to day weather stuff is all your side has to blabber about.

A given planet's SAP rises as it gets closer to the Sun.

Sincerely,

Earth
Mars
Pluto

Can you refute that? NO


LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

Like added CO2 warms the Earth.

Add ENOUGH and it will. Add 1 million fold to what burning hydrocarbons has added and it would.

As it is, what, 400ppm, it is laughable and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

Sincerely,

highly correlated satellite and balloon data

There it is again, SAP diluted by a temperature increase.

This from someone who speaks HEBREW.... LOL!!!

I'll even guess for you this time, since guesses are all we have on the subject.


Of the increase in Earth SAP during Jurassic from 1 today to 3-5 during Jurassic, 93% was from increasing the number of gas molecules in the atmosphere, and 7% was from a temperature increase.

Hence, YOUR CLAIM that it was all just gas increase is wrong, you have a 7% dilution of THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE GAS INCREASE TO THE OVERALL INCREASE IN SAP from increasing temperature.


If your CHOSEN ASS cannot comprehend that, too bad... everyone else who speaks ENGLISH can...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Pick one...

P = P₀ * e^(-Mgh/RT), where P is the pressure at a given altitude, P₀ is the pressure at sea level, M is the molar mass of air, g is the acceleration due to gravity, h is the altitude, R is the ideal gas constant, and T is the temperature at that altitude

What happens to P when T increases?

Answer before the Jews hide all the calculators.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The atmosphere's pressure "fills out." Day to day weather stuff is all your side has to blabber about.

A given planet's SAP rises as it gets closer to the Sun.

Sincerely,

Earth
Mars
Pluto

Can you refute that? NO


LOL!!!

The atmosphere's pressure "fills out."

That's a null term.

A given planet's SAP rises as it gets closer to the Sun.

Why?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This from someone who speaks HEBREW.... LOL!!!

I'll even guess for you this time, since guesses are all we have on the subject.


Of the increase in Earth SAP during Jurassic from 1 today to 3-5 during Jurassic, 93% was from increasing the number of gas molecules in the atmosphere, and 7% was from a temperature increase.

Hence, YOUR CLAIM that it was all just gas increase is wrong, you have a 7% dilution of THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE GAS INCREASE TO THE OVERALL INCREASE IN SAP from increasing temperature.


If your CHOSEN ASS cannot comprehend that, too bad... everyone else who speaks ENGLISH can...

This from someone who speaks HEBREW.... LOL!!!

Sorry to disappoint. I only took Latin and Spanish.
Wasn't any good at either one.

Of the increase in Earth SAP during Jurassic from 1 today to 3-5 during Jurassic, 93% was from increasing the number of gas molecules in the atmosphere, and 7% was from a temperature increase.

Your original claim was the temperature increase "diluted the SAP".

If your CHOSEN ASS cannot comprehend that,

You're a moron and a homo? Stop talking about my ass you sick queer.

 

[EMH]

P is the pressure at a given altitude

We are talking about SURFACE Air Pressure, not pressure higher up. Wrong equation.

P₀ is the pressure at sea level

which in your equation is given and used to calculate pressure at higher altitude.

e^(-Mgh/RT), where P is the pressure at a given altitude, P₀ is the pressure at sea level, M is the molar mass of air, g is the acceleration due to gravity, h is the altitude, R is the ideal gas constant, and T is the temperature at that altitude

What happens to P when T increases?

If T rises, then it shrinks the NEGATIVE exponential factor, which would INCREASE the value, so P goes UP....

 

[EMH]

A given planet's SAP rises as it gets closer to the Sun.

Why?

Because closer to Sun = warmer.

SAP is correlated with temperature. Mars proves it. Zionist Fascist taxpayer funded Faux "skeptics" hate that truth.

Your original claim was the temperature increase "diluted the SAP".

diluted the effect of increased gas molecules you claims was all of the SAP increase.... nice try.

 

[ding]

cause Martian SAP to go up when Mars is closer to the Sun??

LOL!!!

It couldn't possibly be that Mars gets WARMER as it gets closer to the SUN, no way, that would COMPLETELY REFUTE THE CO2 FRAUD THAT EMPLOYS YOU...

Yes, the closer the Mars is to the sun the greater the gravitational force. Gravity gets stronger the closer objects are to each other; according to Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation, the gravitational force between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them, meaning the closer they are, the stronger the pull of gravity is.

You were asking why atmospheric pressure is greater the closer Mars is to the sun. Yes, it is hotter which lowers atmospheric pressure, but the stronger gravitational force outweighs the lower gas density.

Now I have explained it to you and you have no more excuses.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Because closer to Sun = warmer.

SAP is correlated with temperature. Mars proves it. Zionist Fascist taxpayer funded Faux "skeptics" hate that truth.






diluted the effect of increased gas molecules you claims was all of the SAP increase.... nice try.

Because closer to Sun = warmer.

SAP is correlated with temperature.

The Northern Hemisphere is colder when the sun is closer.
So why is Northern Hemisphere SAP higher?

diluted the effect of increased gas molecules you claims was all of the SAP increase

Right. The increased molecules increase SAP. Diluting the increased SAP reduces SAP.

 

[EMH]

Yes, the closer the Mars is to the sun the greater the gravitational force. Gravity gets stronger the closer objects are to each other; according to Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation, the gravitational force between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them, meaning the closer they are, the stronger the pull of gravity is.

You were asking why atmospheric pressure is greater the closer Mars is to the sun. Yes, it is hotter which lowers atmospheric pressure, but the stronger gravitational force outweighs the lower gas density.

Now I have explained it to you and you have no more excuses.

Many of you will laugh, until you realize YOU PAY THIS PSYCHO COCKSUCKER to "practice science."

 

[EMH]

The Northern Hemisphere is colder when the sun is closer.
So why is Northern Hemisphere SAP higher?

SAP is planetary. The force of the pressure on Earth, while hardly "uniform" at any one time, is remarkably "uniform" over time.

The truth is that EARTH is warmer during northern hemisphere winter, and that's why SAP is such a great data point. It is PLANETARY, and if your planet's SAP is not rising, then your planet

A) is NOT WARMING
B) is NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT



The data the Co2 FRAUD claims is "planetary" is not. One ice core is not. Warming from the surface of growing urban areas is not.

 

[ding]

Many of you will laugh, until you realize YOU PAY THIS PSYCHO COCKSUCKER to "practice science."

I wouldn't pay you to park my car.

 

[ding]

SAP is planetary. The force of the pressure on Earth, while hardly "uniform" at any one time, is remarkably "uniform" over time.

The truth is that EARTH is warmer during northern hemisphere winter, and that's why SAP is such a great data point. It is PLANETARY, and if your planet's SAP is not rising, then your planet

A) is NOT WARMING
B) is NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT



The data the Co2 FRAUD claims is "planetary" is not. One ice core is not. Warming from the surface of growing urban areas is not.

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

 

[EMH]

We are talking about SURFACE Air Pressure, not pressure higher up. Wrong equation.




which in your equation is given and used to calculate pressure at higher altitude.





If T rises, then it shrinks the NEGATIVE exponential factor, which would INCREASE the value, so P goes UP..

and Toddster had no comment, because he first incorrectly assessed the equation, and then backed away as once again


AIR PRESSURE IS CORRELATED WITH TEMPERATURE

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

SAP is planetary. The force of the pressure on Earth, while hardly "uniform" at any one time, is remarkably "uniform" over time.

The truth is that EARTH is warmer during northern hemisphere winter, and that's why SAP is such a great data point. It is PLANETARY, and if your planet's SAP is not rising, then your planet

A) is NOT WARMING
B) is NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT



The data the Co2 FRAUD claims is "planetary" is not. One ice core is not. Warming from the surface of growing urban areas is not.

SAP is planetary.

Your idiocy is planetary.

The truth is that EARTH is warmer during northern hemisphere winter,

Northern hemisphere SAP is higher in the winter, because it's warmer in the southern hemisphere?

 

[EMH]

Northern hemisphere SAP is higher in the winter, because it's warmer in the southern hemisphere?

No, because Earth is closer to Sun. When Earth is closer to Sun, it is warmer than when it is further away from Sun. Amazing coincidence....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, because Earth is closer to Sun. When Earth is closer to Sun, it is warmer than when it is further away from Sun. Amazing coincidence....

The northern hemisphere is colder in the winter when Earth is closer to the Sun.
Amazing indeed.

It's weird that whichever hemisphere is colder, regardless of proximity to the sun,
has the lower SAP.

It's almost like proximity has no impact.