Picked up about $500 worth of rice and bean supplies and my pantry is open for business!

[whitehall]

Inviting little kids into your home to eat rice and beans? Hmmmm

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Offer 20 pounds for raking your leaves
Most will give you the finger and leave
This is the nature of the problem and Not Poverty

People like you have no idea how awful you are.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Blessings upon you. You are a good person.

But I doubt any of your neighbors do not have ability to cook their own beans and rice if they have beans and rice. I keep some on hand, along with some powdered milk, all the time for food drives or whatever contingency comes up. I don't think I know a soul who would deny food to a hungry person who asked for it.

The only one who has ever asked me though was a mentally challenged retired doctor with a very comfortable retirement income who was giving all her money away to on line scammers pretending to be celebrities who were in love with her. "Anderson Cooper" took her for over $7,500. (Yes she knew he had been gay but he assured her he had been cured of that.) "Sam Heughan" (Outlanders) asked her to marry him--she accepted--and was enroute to see her several times if she could advance him a few thousand in American money which she forked over. Of course he never ever quite made it to her place but that never seemed to bother her. "Carol King" got her social security number, banking information, and other personal information by 'hiring her as a road manager'. She could work from home of course. The doctor was unphased when shown what the duties of a road manager are and why such a person cannot do that job from home.

I gave her food from our pantry and freezer when she asked. But did not give her the cash she asked for so she could buy her dog a cheeseburger at McDonalds. (She was reported to adult protective services but I don't know if they did anything.)

Then there's the homeless guy who 'doesn't drink' but had a cast on his hand preventing him to use a can opener for food offered by the food bank. Then when given cash, his benefactor had to call the cops when he showed up drunk and dangerously threatening demanding more money.

I once had a job in which we were visited by lots and lots of transients. Each one showing up claiming to be hungry received a food voucher they could use for anything on the menu at a nearby cafe and we would pay the cafe later. Those needing gas were given a voucher to use at a nearby station for enough gas to get them on down the road to the next town. In a year's time, after giving out more than a hundred of these vouchers, one meal voucher was cashed, two gas vouchers were used.

And I am reminded of the story of the man talking with his ultra left teenage neighbor who told him that being rich was evil and she wanted to give whatever she could to the homeless. He told her that if she would rake his leaves, clean the garage and wash his car, he would give her $50 now to give to the homeless.

She thought about that for a moment and then suggested that why don't the homeless rake the leaves, clean the garage, and wash the car and he could give them the $50 directly. (He congratulated her on her conversion to conservatism.)

The point is, if your neighbors actually do show up for a plate of rice and beans, then they almost certainly are hungry. And if they accept your offer of dried beans and rice to cook themselves they are almost certainly hungry--that is the more practical approach probably as they would have more than one meal.

Those who just want money, probably aren't all that hungry.

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An acquaintance asked for some help buying food, and I told him I'd take him food shopping instead of giving him cash for doing some work for me, and he declined. I knew him to be someone who'd spend every cent on beer and dope, and then whine about the food that he and his wife got from the food bank.

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[trumptman]

That's the frustrating thing for me. I know there are people who really honestly benefit from that extra help and need it due to no fault of theirs. But it is really hard to just keep quiet and tell myself it's not my business when I see a cart full of cookies, ice cream beer, wine, cola, potato chips. pop tarts etc. plus a few actual nourishing food items and see them pull out that EBT card to pay for what is legally covered.

Well you are showing this strange disconnect that most of us have. We don't know how the Democrat Party became this coastal elite, graft machine that fails to help, and is like a cancer consuming the country and wealth of others to prolonging their power.

Like you note, much of this help now is misguided and actually harmful.

At the same time, I don't have it in me to not feed a truly hungry person. But I can see issuing the needy unlimited rice, beans, powdered milk--all they can use--to ensure they do not go hungry until they get on their feet. I can also approve of holding them accountable with appropriate penalties if they are caught selling that on the black market.

Well 90% of the problems would be solved with what you suggest above. The issue has seldom been related to people being handed staples. When people resell these things they have to be willing to take a "haircut" on their value to get cash. Staples like beans and rice are incredibly cheap though. Enough to feed a family for a month is a bit less than $200. Someone taking a 25-40% haircut on that to get cash would only end up with $120-150 cash.

Instead we have restaurants taking EBT. We have SNAP being spent on junk food and heavily processed food that not only is poor quality but expensive in comparison.

Another aspect not mentioned in all these discussions is that every child of school age gets two meals a day provided for free.

So "Mom" gets $2500 in SNAP funds buys crap with it, or sells the funds with a 25% haircut for say $1800 and then the schools feed the kids twice a day and she buys her hair, nails and Burger King for dunner.

As Christians or otherwise ethical people, we must take care of the truly helpless, those who cannot help themselves. But we do nobody any favors by enabling them to be irresponsible or to encourage them to prey on the kind hearted and/or gullible.

When people talk about the Great Depression those were Public WORKS projections. Anyone wanting to help should not be enabling bad health, bad outcomes, sloth and so on.

We need to stop allowing people to weaponize empathy to enable their graft, corruption and theft. 150lbs of beans and rice can feed a family of four for a month and cost less than $200. Declaring that we want people to starve if we won't give them no work requirements or just demanding they do no work period, and then $2500 a month for "food" is just another type of theft. It's no different than a drug addict declaring you have to give them money or they'll steal from you.

 

[Zincwarrior]

We have a lot of low income neighbors. I never asked them about their EBT benefits or whether they have any. I do know they have kids.

I have a large commercial rice cooker and right now 200 pounds of rice, 24 restaurant size cans of kidney beans and eight cases of Goya tomato sauce.

Additionally I have over a thousand packets of sazon..... We stand ready to start passing out the plates!

Sir I salute you.

 

[justoffal]

Blessings upon you. You are a good person.

But I doubt any of your neighbors do not have ability to cook their own beans and rice if they have beans and rice. I keep some on hand, along with some powdered milk, all the time for food drives or whatever contingency comes up. I don't think I know a soul who would deny food to a hungry person who asked for it.

The only one who has ever asked me though was a mentally challenged retired doctor with a very comfortable retirement income who was giving all her money away to on line scammers pretending to be celebrities who were in love with her. "Anderson Cooper" took her for over $7,500. (Yes she knew he had been gay but he assured her he had been cured of that.) "Sam Heughan" (Outlanders) asked her to marry him--she accepted--and was enroute to see her several times if she could advance him a few thousand in American money which she forked over. Of course he never ever quite made it to her place but that never seemed to bother her. "Carol King" got her social security number, banking information, and other personal information by 'hiring her as a road manager'. She could work from home of course. The doctor was unphased when shown what the duties of a road manager are and why such a person cannot do that job from home.

I gave her food from our pantry and freezer when she asked. But did not give her the cash she asked for so she could buy her dog a cheeseburger at McDonalds. (She was reported to adult protective services but I don't know if they did anything.)

Then there's the homeless guy who 'doesn't drink' but had a cast on his hand preventing him to use a can opener for food offered by the food bank. Then when given cash, his benefactor had to call the cops when he showed up drunk and dangerously threatening demanding more money.

I once had a job in which we were visited by lots and lots of transients. Each one showing up claiming to be hungry received a food voucher they could use for anything on the menu at a nearby cafe and we would pay the cafe later. Those needing gas were given a voucher to use at a nearby station for enough gas to get them on down the road to the next town. In a year's time, after giving out more than a hundred of these vouchers, one meal voucher was cashed, two gas vouchers were used.

And I am reminded of the story of the man talking with his ultra left teenage neighbor who told him that being rich was evil and she wanted to give whatever she could to the homeless. He told her that if she would rake his leaves, clean the garage and wash his car, he would give her $50 now to give to the homeless.

She thought about that for a moment and then suggested that why don't the homeless rake the leaves, clean the garage, and wash the car and he could give them the $50 directly. (He congratulated her on her conversion to conservatism.)

The point is, if your neighbors actually do show up for a plate of rice and beans, then they almost certainly are hungry. And if they accept your offer of dried beans and rice to cook themselves they are almost certainly hungry--that is the more practical approach probably as they would have more than one meal.

Those who just want money, probably aren't all that hungry.

She thought about that for a moment and then suggested that why don't the homeless rake the leaves, clean the garage, and wash the car and he could give them the $50 directly. (He congratulated her on her conversion to conservatism.

 

[fncceo]

People like you have no idea how awful you are.

Yes, what kind of sick, heartless basterd would offer compensation in return for productive labor?

I shudder just thinking about it.

 

[Foxfyre]

Inviting little kids into your home to eat rice and beans? Hmmmm

For millions of kids, that is a staple in their diet.

 

[Foxfyre]

Well you are showing this strange disconnect that most of us have. We don't know how the Democrat Party became this coastal elite, graft machine that fails to help, and is like a cancer consuming the country and wealth of others to prolonging their power.

Like you note, much of this help now is misguided and actually harmful.



Well 90% of the problems would be solved with what you suggest above. The issue has seldom been related to people being handed staples. When people resell these things they have to be willing to take a "haircut" on their value to get cash. Staples like beans and rice are incredibly cheap though. Enough to feed a family for a month is a bit less than $200. Someone taking a 25-40% haircut on that to get cash would only end up with $120-150 cash.

Instead we have restaurants taking EBT. We have SNAP being spent on junk food and heavily processed food that not only is poor quality but expensive in comparison.

Another aspect not mentioned in all these discussions is that every child of school age gets two meals a day provided for free.

So "Mom" gets $2500 in SNAP funds buys crap with it, or sells the funds with a 25% haircut for say $1800 and then the schools feed the kids twice a day and she buys her hair, nails and Burger King for dunner.



When people talk about the Great Depression those were Public WORKS projections. Anyone wanting to help should not be enabling bad health, bad outcomes, sloth and so on.

We need to stop allowing people to weaponize empathy to enable their graft, corruption and theft. 150lbs of beans and rice can feed a family of four for a month and cost less than $200. Declaring that we want people to starve if we won't give them no work requirements or just demanding they do no work period, and then $2500 a month for "food" is just another type of theft. It's no different than a drug addict declaring you have to give them money or they'll steal from you.

I figure a steady diet of beans, rice and powdered milk would get old pretty quick to those who aren't starving, But for the truly hungry they would be happy to have that.

There were homeless when I was a kid but they were called 'hoboes' back then. They would show up at a kitchen door offering work for food. My mother would always have a chore for them--clean out/clean up this or that, stack firewood or whatever--nothing really strenuous or time consuming--in return for a hot meal or food he could take to his family. The depression era works program also returned compensation for actual work even if a lot of that was pretty much 'make work.'

But in both cases, it allowed a person the dignity of earning instead of just begging, pride and sense of self worth that he earned what he received. That is a terribly important thing. No form of entitlement is created. People are rewarded for taking responsibility for themselves and doing what they can to support themselves and their families.

The current administration policy of requiring work--community service or whatever--of those able to do that in return for those EBT cards, etc. is a very humane and constructive policy. And could change the character of millions from being beggars to knowing and appreciating the dignity of work.

 

[leftwinger]

Well I know a lot of them and I know a lot of the kids..... Hopefully we don't get any like that.
I've kind of put out the word we'll see what happens. Been feeding the neighborhood kids for a long time.... Since I can remember. Children's playmates and now the grandchildren's playmates.

You may be right about the foundation of the problem.

No kids like kidney beans.

 

[justoffal]

Inviting little kids into your home to eat rice and beans? Hmmmm

No kids like kidney beans.

Lol..... All of my kids and grandkids do...
But not Just as plain kidney beans.

Three bean salad
Rice and beans
Chile

 

[justoffal]

well you are doing a GOOD THING...

I couldn't really live with myself if I wasn't at least ready to help. Most of these people have children.

 

[MarathonMike]

We have a lot of low income neighbors. I never asked them about their EBT benefits or whether they have any. I do know they have kids.

I have a large commercial rice cooker and right now 200 pounds of rice, 24 restaurant size cans of kidney beans and eight cases of Goya tomato sauce.

Additionally I have over a thousand packets of sazon..... We stand ready to start passing out the plates!

Awesome!

 

[Zincwarrior]

For millions of kids, that is a staple in their diet.

It definitely was mine.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, what kind of sick, heartless basterd would offer compensation in return for productive labor?

Some free advice: When you play dumb for too long, you forget to stop.

 

[stan ford 4]

those same people were silent when the price of potatoes doubled, then doubled again.

Potato prices did not quadruple.

 

[elektra]

Potato prices did not quadruple.

Something else you can't prove.

 

[stan ford 4]

Something else you can't prove.

I just did. Take that nap yet?

 

[elektra]

I just did. Take that nap yet?

Contradictions aint proof

 

[stan ford 4]

Contradictions aint proof

but authority is. zzzzz