Pete Rose

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Love him or hate him, this video interview is classic. Rose speaks of how baseball is SUPPOSED to be played! Rose is cut from a mold like no other. He belongs in the Hall of Fame whether he bet on baseball or his own team or whatever. The hall of fame should be reserved for what you accomplished on the diamond and for Rose, he is ABSOLUTELY one of the greatest players ever. For his skills and his attitude. There has never been a player I knew of who would run down to first base on a walk before Rose or after. He played the game hard and played with passion. You just don't see that in ANY sport these days.
 
Love him or hate him, this video interview is classic. Rose speaks of how baseball is SUPPOSED to be played! Rose is cut from a mold like no other. He belongs in the Hall of Fame whether he bet on baseball or his own team or whatever. The hall of fame should be reserved for what you accomplished on the diamond and for Rose, he is ABSOLUTELY one of the greatest players ever. For his skills and his attitude. There has never been a player I knew of who would run down to first base on a walk before Rose or after. He played the game hard and played with passion. You just don't see that in ANY sport these days.

I hope my cards are worth a lot. I have a lot
 
From what I remember, Pete Rose did not gamble on games in which he was playing or managing. If that is true then what he did was not an issue and he definitely deserves to be in the HOF.

Especially since Sports Betting is legal now.

Any player can get a bet placed at the local casino or betting parlor.
 
Love him or hate him, this video interview is classic. Rose speaks of how baseball is SUPPOSED to be played! Rose is cut from a mold like no other. He belongs in the Hall of Fame whether he bet on baseball or his own team or whatever. The hall of fame should be reserved for what you accomplished on the diamond and for Rose, he is ABSOLUTELY one of the greatest players ever. For his skills and his attitude. There has never been a player I knew of who would run down to first base on a walk before Rose or after. He played the game hard and played with passion. You just don't see that in ANY sport these days.

Nobody will ever reach his hits total.
 
From what I remember, Pete Rose did not gamble on games in which he was playing or managing. If that is true then what he did was not an issue and he definitely deserves to be in the HOF.

Especially since Sports Betting is legal now.

Any player can get a bet placed at the local casino or betting parlor.
Right? Go over to Britain and you can bet on anything you want. This is just a silly holdover from the Black Sox scandal of 1919.
 
From what I remember, Pete Rose did not gamble on games in which he was playing or managing. If that is true then what he did was not an issue and he definitely deserves to be in the HOF.

Especially since Sports Betting is legal now.

Any player can get a bet placed at the local casino or betting parlor.
Right? Go over to Britain and you can bet on anything you want. This is just a silly holdover from the Black Sox scandal of 1919.
Pete broke the rules 35 years ago

Betting on Baseball is now a daily occurrence. Pretending outrage is pretty ridiculous.

We are starting to accept Steroid use which is actual cheating but punish Rose for placing small bets on games he wasn’t involved in.
 
In 2002, the lead investigator in Rose's case, John Dowd, stated publicly that he believed Rose had bet against the Reds at some point while managing them...
 
In 2002, the lead investigator in Rose's case, John Dowd, stated publicly that he believed Rose had bet against the Reds at some point while managing them...
If he had proof, it would be in his report
 
From what I remember, Pete Rose did not gamble on games in which he was playing or managing. If that is true then what he did was not an issue and he definitely deserves to be in the HOF.

Especially since Sports Betting is legal now.

Any player can get a bet placed at the local casino or betting parlor.
Right? Go over to Britain and you can bet on anything you want. This is just a silly holdover from the Black Sox scandal of 1919.
Pete broke the rules 35 years ago

Betting on Baseball is now a daily occurrence. Pretending outrage is pretty ridiculous.

We are starting to accept Steroid use which is actual cheating but punish Rose for placing small bets on games he wasn’t involved in.
Remember the Michael Jordan 6 part series? Remember he was pitching pennies with his bodyguard? SNL did a hilarious bit. The bodyguard got goated into losing 10,000 and then Jordan made him bet his cloths. Jordan bet on everything, except basketball games.

That we know. Him and Barkley or Ewing or Reggie Miller o spike lee? Jordan never bet on basketball? I find that hard to believe since he bet on everything else.
 
From what I remember, Pete Rose did not gamble on games in which he was playing or managing. If that is true then what he did was not an issue and he definitely deserves to be in the HOF.

Especially since Sports Betting is legal now.

Any player can get a bet placed at the local casino or betting parlor.
Right? Go over to Britain and you can bet on anything you want. This is just a silly holdover from the Black Sox scandal of 1919.
Pete broke the rules 35 years ago

Betting on Baseball is now a daily occurrence. Pretending outrage is pretty ridiculous.

We are starting to accept Steroid use which is actual cheating but punish Rose for placing small bets on games he wasn’t involved in.
Remember the Michael Jordan 6 part series? Remember he was pitching pennies with his bodyguard? SNL did a hilarious bit. The bodyguard got goated into losing 10,000 and then Jordan made him bet his cloths. Jordan bet on everything, except basketball games.

That we know. Him and Barkley or Ewing or Reggie Miller o spike lee? Jordan never bet on basketball? I find that hard to believe since he bet on everything else.
Pete was making money at baseball memorabilia shows on weekends. They would pay him in cash to sign autographs.

This was the money Pete used to place bets. He didn’t care if he lost it.

But he broke the rules. Problem is there is legal sports betting in this country now. It is no big deal anymore.

Stop the nonsense and let Pete back in and put him in his rightful place in the HOF
 
Charlie Hustler was the way I heard one guy put it. Still makes me laugh.

Does he deserve to be in the HOF? Yes. Absolutely. He should have never been banned. His achievements on the diamond speak for themselves.

No question he is a Hall of Famer, but it's troubling to me that when he was in his 40's and still racking up all those hits that he was a close friend to a known steroid dealer. They were not casual acquaintances. I used to think he got the hit record the old fashioned way, but I'm sure Pete was on the juice.
 
Charlie Hustler was the way I heard one guy put it. Still makes me laugh.

Does he deserve to be in the HOF? Yes. Absolutely. He should have never been banned. His achievements on the diamond speak for themselves.

No question he is a Hall of Famer, but it's troubling to me that when he was in his 40's and still racking up all those hits that he was a close friend to a known steroid dealer. They were not casual acquaintances. I used to think he got the hit record the old fashioned way, but I'm sure Pete was on the juice.
Not sure about that. His physique wasn't exactly impressive. I'll take your word for it though.
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Charlie Hustler was the way I heard one guy put it. Still makes me laugh.

Does he deserve to be in the HOF? Yes. Absolutely. He should have never been banned. His achievements on the diamond speak for themselves.

No question he is a Hall of Famer, but it's troubling to me that when he was in his 40's and still racking up all those hits that he was a close friend to a known steroid dealer. They were not casual acquaintances. I used to think he got the hit record the old fashioned way, but I'm sure Pete was on the juice.
Not sure about that. His physique wasn't exactly impressive. I'll take your word for it though.
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Don't know when that picture was taken, but Pete had a 24 year career. When he left Cincy for Philadelphia, he had a roommate for road games who was a known steroid dealer (not a ball player). For someone like Rose and Roger Clemons to play at such a high level late in their careers, they need a little help, and they both got a little help.
 
Charlie Hustler was the way I heard one guy put it. Still makes me laugh.

Does he deserve to be in the HOF? Yes. Absolutely. He should have never been banned. His achievements on the diamond speak for themselves.

No question he is a Hall of Famer, but it's troubling to me that when he was in his 40's and still racking up all those hits that he was a close friend to a known steroid dealer. They were not casual acquaintances. I used to think he got the hit record the old fashioned way, but I'm sure Pete was on the juice.
Not sure about that. His physique wasn't exactly impressive. I'll take your word for it though.
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Don't know when that picture was taken, but Pete had a 24 year career. When he left Cincy for Philadelphia, he had a roommate for road games who was a known steroid dealer (not a ball player). For someone like Rose and Roger Clemons to play at such a high level late in their careers, they need a little help, and they both got a little help.
Yes and no...

I guess back when Rose played, there were 'roids but damn...the guys who were taking 'roids look more like Hulk Hogan than Ben Hogan.
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Again, I'll take your word for it....
 
Pete Rose's "crime" must be understood in context. When he was playing and managing, every team was briefed during Spring Training that gambling in public was frowned upon, sports betting was "sinful," and betting on professional baseball was a figurative CAPITAL OFFENSE! Doesn't matter whether it's your team or not - NO BETTING ON BASEBALL! YOU WILL BE EXCOMMUNICATED FROM BASEBALL!

So ignoring all that, you might say that the real danger of him betting on baseball would be if someone placed bets AGAINST his own team, then managed the team (or played the game) in a way to lose on purpose. That would be the ultimate crime. If you bet on YOUR OWN team, what harm could that do? You are even more incentivized to win! Pete Rose could have bet on OTHER TEAMS, using his own personal knowledge as a baseball insider, which might have been unfair to other betters, but seriously, WGAS?

So bottom line, Pete Rose did nothing criminal or sinful, or even unethical, when he bet on baseball games in which his teams were not involved. But he broke the rules. HE WAS TOLD in no uncertain terms that betting on baseball was a "capital offense," and when he was confronted with that, he agreed to accept banishment for life.

But it's a new world now. The Leftist cancer has infected even the National Pastime, Baseball, so Rose should be allowed in the Hall of Fame, based on his BB accomplishments, which are undeniable. If dirtbags were not allowed, the place could be much smaller.
 
Charlie Hustler was the way I heard one guy put it. Still makes me laugh.

Does he deserve to be in the HOF? Yes. Absolutely. He should have never been banned. His achievements on the diamond speak for themselves.

No question he is a Hall of Famer, but it's troubling to me that when he was in his 40's and still racking up all those hits that he was a close friend to a known steroid dealer. They were not casual acquaintances. I used to think he got the hit record the old fashioned way, but I'm sure Pete was on the juice.
No he wasn’t jacking homers he was just a great hitter.

You can see the ones who juiced. Mark McGuire or Barry bonds.

Another one who didn’t juice was ken Griffey jr. one of the best. I have his rookie card
 

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