Perry files suit to challenge Virginia primary ballot rules.

[paperview]

But aren't primaries an intra-party thing?

They don't even have to hold them.

Ayup. For most of our history, party bosses chose them.

The ole smoky back room 'n convention halls.

Primaries are relatively new, brought to us by: the progressive era!

Democrats still use super delegates. Very progressive.

Their party, their rules.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Basically Virginia disqualified 6 out of 8 GOP candidates--and only two met their primary requirements. The ballot will be Mitt Romney and Ron Paul.
Bachmann, Huntsman, Santorum not on Va. primary ballot | Richmond Times-Dispatch

1. The article ID's 7 not 8 (Candidates = Bachmann, Gingrich, Huntsman, Paul, Perry, Romney, Santorum) who are they missing and what is there status? (Maybe Johnson?).


2. Of the 7, Virginia did not "disqualify" them, they choose not to participate in the Virginia Primary because - they didn't file any signatures at all.


>>>>

 

[JoeB131]

Is a party's primary considered a federal election?

Would like a real answer.

I would say that since it is for a federal office, probably some federal voting rights rules apply.

I think the RPV tried to pull a fast one and it is blowing up in their faces.

But aren't primaries an intra-party thing?

They don't even have to hold them.

I agree, they don't. And I'll admit, I don't know the legalities. But apparently Perry's legal team thinks they have a shot.

But the "optics" of the whole thing look horrible for the RPV. Can't win the election, so we'll cheat by keeping the guy who could win at this point off the ballot.

 

[paperview]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

 

[Full-Auto]

Ayup. For most of our history, party bosses chose them.

The ole smoky back room 'n convention halls.

Primaries are relatively new, brought to us by: the progressive era!

Democrats still use super delegates. Very progressive.

Their party, their rules.

Which took away what I said how?

 

[Conservative]

If you know what the rules are going in, and you fail to follow them, whining about it later is still just whining... regardless of your party affiliation.

 

[konradv]

But aren't primaries an intra-party thing?

They don't even have to hold them.

Ayup. For most of our history, party bosses chose them.

The ole smoky back room 'n convention halls.

Primaries are relatively new, brought to us by: the progressive era!

Democrats still use super delegates. Very progressive.

So do Republicans.

Superdelegate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[konradv]

I would say that since it is for a federal office, probably some federal voting rights rules apply.

I think the RPV tried to pull a fast one and it is blowing up in their faces.

But aren't primaries an intra-party thing?

They don't even have to hold them.

I agree, they don't. And I'll admit, I don't know the legalities. But apparently Perry's legal team thinks they have a shot.

But the "optics" of the whole thing look horrible for the RPV. Can't win the election, so we'll cheat by keeping the guy who could win at this point off the ballot.

But you haven't proved they're cheating. As you said "bad optics", but how is that "cheating"?

 

[JoeB131]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

Do you have a cite that's what he actually said?

 

[Conservative]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

Do you have a cite that's what he actually said?

still looking for a link to the statement, but pretty much every source is reporting the statement contained that number.

 

[JoeB131]

But aren't primaries an intra-party thing?

They don't even have to hold them.

I agree, they don't. And I'll admit, I don't know the legalities. But apparently Perry's legal team thinks they have a shot.

But the "optics" of the whole thing look horrible for the RPV. Can't win the election, so we'll cheat by keeping the guy who could win at this point off the ballot.

But you haven't proved they're cheating. As you said "bad optics", but how is that "cheating"?

As far as I'm concerned, Party hacks invoke obscure rules to invalidate EVERYONE challenging the annointed candidate... and you don't smell a rat?

Seriously?

You know, I'm a funny guy. When I see a blood-spattered OJ, I conclude he killed those people, I don't wait for a court and a bunch of lawyers to screw it up.

An improbable result occurs that benefits the party hack. Don't need a bloody glove for this one....

 

[Conservative]

Did not find the statement yet, but I DID find the actual complaint filed...
http://www.rickperry.org/content/uploads/2011/12/Perry-VA-Ballot-Access.pdf

 

[paperview]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

Do you have a cite that's what he actually said?

still looking for a link to the statement, but pretty much every source is reporting the statement contained that number.

Press release is here: The Page by Mark Halperin | Perry Challenges VA Ballot Decision

 

[paperview]

Also, from Perry's lawsuit, it reads:

"Perry submitted “over 6,000 petition signatures from qualified Virginia voters.”

Yowie Kapowie!

 

[Jarhead]

Do you have a cite that's what he actually said?

still looking for a link to the statement, but pretty much every source is reporting the statement contained that number.

Press release is here: The Page by Mark Halperin | Perry Challenges VA Ballot Decision

Did you read it?
It speciofically says that 119K voted in the GOP PRIMARY.

So why do you feel the need to spin it and say that nearly a half a million voted in the 2008election?

Or do you not klnow the difference between a general election and a primary?

 

[rightwinger]

Perry needs to get himself one of those activist judges who does not believe in the Tenth Amendment

 

[Jarhead]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

Nothing unusual here.

119K voted in the primary
Half a million voted in the general election.

You may have a reading comprehension issue.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Hypocrite Perry is in favor of "state's right" right up until they're inconvenient for him. If this was a Dem in Texas, he'd screech about "frivolous lawsuits" and tell him to abide by the law.

He also flip-flopped on abortion because he thinks it will get him more votes.

 

[paperview]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

Nothing unusual here.

119K voted in the primary
Half a million voted in the general election.

You may have a reading comprehension issue.

2008 February Republican Presidential Primary Unofficial Results

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia....b-494e-8c2e-599fed2df7c6/unofficial/1_s.shtml

Wanna try that again, Slappy?

 

[Jarhead]

BAD 'OPTICS' :::

"Perry's campaign said it submitted 11,911 signatures for verification.
In the statement announcing the legal challenge, Perry's campaign said only 119,034 Virginians voted in the 2008 Republican primary, making the requirement of 10,000 signatures "unrealistic and onerous."

See that? 119,034.

VA Board of Electors:

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.g...cial/1_s.shtml

nearly A HALF A MILLION republicans voted in the 2008 election.

Does this man actively search for billboards announcing how stoooopid he is?

Nothing unusual here.

119K voted in the primary
Half a million voted in the general election.

You may have a reading comprehension issue.

2008 February Republican Presidential Primary Unofficial Results

https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia....b-494e-8c2e-599fed2df7c6/unofficial/1_s.shtml

Wanna try that again, Slappy?

Need a number for a reading comprehension specialist....you got one for me?

Sorry about that.