Peace Through Strength: will genocidal Islamic Republic negotiate now after some nuclear facilities eliminated?

[Sayaras]

Question is, will the fascist Mullahs come to their senses before losing the regime?
Or radical Islamism "pride" doesn't let them.

US drops six ‘bunker buster’ bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear plant as Trump declares facility ‘is gone,’ says ‘now is the time for peace’.
The attack came days after President Trump unleashed an open threat to Tehran to give up its nuclear program and called for Iran’s “unconditional surrender.”
By Anna Young, Diana Glebova and Steven Nelson.
WASHINGTON — The US military dropped six “bunker buster” bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear enrichment plant Saturday night and hit two other key sites — with President Trump declaring the facility hidden nearly 300 feet beneath a mountain is “completely and totally obliterated.”

Trump announced the historic airstrikes days after Israel initiated extensive attacks on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and military.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space,” Trump posted on Truth Social just before 8 p.m. Saturday — marking the first-ever US strike on Iranian territory.
Published June 21, 2025, 7:59 p.m. ET
US drops six ‘bunker buster’ bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear plant as Trump declares facility ‘is gone,’ says ‘now is the time for peace’

Trump:
'Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been obliterated'.
Israel National News.
Jun 22, 2025, 5:04 AM
Trump: Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been totally obliterated

PM Netanyahu responds:
First comes strength, then comes peace.
"President Trump and I often say: ‘Peace through strength.’ First comes strength, then comes peace", Netanyahu wrote on social media, "And tonight, president Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength".
Yoni Kempinski.
Jun 22, 2025, 4:49 AM
PM Netanyahu responds: First comes strength, then comes peace

Herzog thanks Trump:
'A decisive moment between axis of terror and axis of hope'.
Israel National News.
Jun 22, 2025, 6:50 AM

Herzog thanks Trump: A decisive moment between the axis of terror and the axis of hope

President Isaac Herzog thanks US President Donald Trump after the US struck Iran’s nuclear facilities: This brave step serves the security and safety of the entire free world.

www.israelnationalnews.com

 

[theHawk]

I’d be shocked if they negotiate now.

They’ve been embarrassed. All their allies have abandoned them.

The religious zealots will want to go out in a bang. The question is whether or not the regular people in Iran feel the same. Have they bought into the 45 years of propaganda? Or are they tired of the bullshit?

It’s really up to them.

 

[White 6]

There will be some negotiation, but by back channel for deniability.

 

[Sayaras]

There will be some negotiation, but by back channel for deniability.

B/c of pride...

 

[Sayaras]

I’d be shocked if they negotiate now.

They’ve been embarrassed. All their allies have abandoned them.

The religious zealots will want to go out in a bang. The question is whether or not the regular people in Iran feel the same. Have they bought into the 45 years of propaganda? Or are they tired of the bullshit?

It’s really up to them.

All they have now is:

• cowardice showering missiles from mobile trucks (running around) aimed at over all of Israeli residents:
• a decapitated weakened Hezbollah,
• weakened Hamas (Gaza Health Ministry who uses its civilians to make sure they die);
• scared militias in Syria and Iraq;
• and suicidal Houthis.

 

[White 6]

B/c of pride...

Nothing wrong with pride, unless it goes too far or too long. Then pride goeth before the fall. They cannot win this and must give up their nuclear ambitions, as they cannot be allowed to threaten the region, Israel and the world.

 

[toobfreak]

The religious zealots will want to go out in a bang. The question is whether or not the regular people in Iran feel the same. Have they bought into the 45 years of propaganda? Or are they tired of the bullshit?

Reports are that people inside Iran know what is going on and why, and support the USA and Israel attacks.

They too have had it living under the mullahs.

 

[excalibur]

According to St. Augustine, the purpose of war is indeed peace. He believed that war could be a just and necessary means to achieve or restore peace, both within a society and between nations. He argued that while war is inherently a negative act, it can be morally justifiable when waged for a just cause, such as defending against aggression or restoring order. Augustine's concept of peace, however, extended beyond the absence of conflict, encompassing the tranquility of order, both within individuals and in society as a whole.

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[toobfreak]

There will be some negotiation, but by back channel for deniability.

They will negotiate to buy time.

Trump isn't allowing them any time. He gave them a 60 day window and they pissed it off.

Trump will break them. The mullahs can either surrender now to an international force allowed to dismantle what is left of their nuclear program or Trump will hit them with the Hammer of Thor that will make Saturday look like a walk in the park.

Israel can now go in there and obliterate every military target they have. If they start trying to shoot rockets at our bases or uncover some hidden terror cell in this country, etc., it will only go harder on them. That would only open the door to utterly obliterate Iran.

The Mullahs can surrender the easy way and stay in power or they can all be killed and driven out of power.

 

[excalibur]

Let us not forget that the RAF has sent air assets closer to the Mideast, to protect Israel from Iranian missiles, and we will soon be patrolling the area as well as other allies.

Yes, the UK has recently moved more Royal Air Force (RAF) jets and other military assets closer to the Middle East.​

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[elektra]

B/c of pride...

Because of culture. Pride, not sure what homosexuality would have to do with it unless you are saying Iran wont negotiate with people that could be gay

 

[elektra]

According to St. Augustine, the purpose of war is indeed peace. He believed that war could be a just and necessary means to achieve or restore peace, both within a society and between nations. He argued that while war is inherently a negative act, it can be morally justifiable when waged for a just cause, such as defending against aggression or restoring order. Augustine's concept of peace, however, extended beyond the absence of conflict, encompassing the tranquility of order, both within individuals and in society as a whole.

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If things are only black and white, then yes war is a negative act.

Trump prevented Iran from using nuclear weapons. St. Augustine would have to see thst as a positive act.

 

[toobfreak]

 

[Captain Caveman]

If things are only black and white, then yes war is a negative act.

Trump prevented Iran from using nuclear weapons. St. Augustine would have to see that as a positive act.

I thought giving Iran billions and a pinky promise not to make nuclear bombs would have worked

 

[Hector12]

Reports are that people inside Iran know what is going on and why, and support the USA and Israel attacks.

They too have had it living under the mullahs.

I hope what you say is true. At this point I do not know.

 

[elektra]

I thought giving Iran billions and a pinky promise not to make nuclear bombs would have worked

democrats wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons, nothing else makes sense. Well, one other thing makes sense, democrats really are stupid

 

[jackflash]

Question is, will the fascist Mullahs come to their senses before losing the regime?
Or radical Islamism "pride" doesn't let them.

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US drops six ‘bunker buster’ bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear plant as Trump declares facility ‘is gone,’ says ‘now is the time for peace’.
The attack came days after President Trump unleashed an open threat to Tehran to give up its nuclear program and called for Iran’s “unconditional surrender.”
By Anna Young, Diana Glebova and Steven Nelson.
WASHINGTON — The US military dropped six “bunker buster” bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear enrichment plant Saturday night and hit two other key sites — with President Trump declaring the facility hidden nearly 300 feet beneath a mountain is “completely and totally obliterated.”

Trump announced the historic airstrikes days after Israel initiated extensive attacks on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and military.

“We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes are now outside of Iran air space,” Trump posted on Truth Social just before 8 p.m. Saturday — marking the first-ever US strike on Iranian territory.
Published June 21, 2025, 7:59 p.m. ET
US drops six ‘bunker buster’ bombs on Iran’s Fordow nuclear plant as Trump declares facility ‘is gone,’ says ‘now is the time for peace’

Trump:
'Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been obliterated'.
Israel National News.
Jun 22, 2025, 5:04 AM
Trump: Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been totally obliterated

PM Netanyahu responds:
First comes strength, then comes peace.
"President Trump and I often say: ‘Peace through strength.’ First comes strength, then comes peace", Netanyahu wrote on social media, "And tonight, president Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength".
Yoni Kempinski.
Jun 22, 2025, 4:49 AM
PM Netanyahu responds: First comes strength, then comes peace

Herzog thanks Trump:
'A decisive moment between axis of terror and axis of hope'.
Israel National News.
Jun 22, 2025, 6:50 AM

Herzog thanks Trump: A decisive moment between the axis of terror and the axis of hope

President Isaac Herzog thanks US President Donald Trump after the US struck Iran’s nuclear facilities: This brave step serves the security and safety of the entire free world.

www.israelnationalnews.com

Islam is a verified death cult like physical death is what turns them on.

 

[Sayaras]

Nothing wrong with pride, unless it goes too far or too long. Then pride goeth before the fall. They cannot win this and must give up their nuclear ambitions, as they cannot be allowed to threaten the region, Israel and the world.

The totalitarian mullah regime might fear its own population more than the Americans and the IDF.

 

[luiza]

, "And tonight, president Trump and the United States acted with a lot of strength".

MORE HASBARA FAKE NEWS Everything was scripted
Exclusive: Iran given advance notice as US insisted attack on nuclear sites is ‘one-off’ - AmwaUS President Donald Trump says three key nuclear facilities in Iran have been “obliterated,” while threatening more strikes “if peace does not come quickly.” This comes as Amwaj.media has learned that Washington notified Tehran of the strikes. Speaking on condition of anonymity, a high-ranking Iranian political source confirmed that the Trump administration on June 21 conveyed that it did not seek an all-out confrontation, and only intended to strike the Fordow, Isfahan and Natanz nuclear sites. Importantly, the senior source also confirmed that the targeted sites were evacuated, with "most" of Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium kept in secure locations.

 

[Godboy]

MORE HASBARA FAKE NEWS Everything was scripted
Exclusive: Iran given advance notice as US insisted attack on nuclear sites is ‘one-off’ - AmwaUS President Donald Trump says three key nuclear facilities in Iran have been “obliterated,” while threatening more strikes “if peace does not come quickly.” This comes as Amwaj.media has learned that Washington notified Tehran of the strikes. Speaking on condition of anonymity, a high-ranking Iranian political source confirmed that the Trump administration on June 21 conveyed that it did not seek an all-out confrontation, and only intended to strike the Fordow, Isfahan and Natanz nuclear sites. Importantly, the senior source also confirmed that the targeted sites were evacuated, with "most" of Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium kept in secure locations.

Its weird that you believe one word of that. Stop being kooky.