Patriots, Traitors Both Able to Support Their Side in Border Wall Dispute

[lennypartiv]

Link for patriots:

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[TheGreatSatan]

The ladder story is just another example of Democrats aiding and abetting foreign nationals sneaking into America.

If a Democrat tells you they are against illegal immigration or say they don't want open borders, know they are either totally ignorant or lying to your face.

Democrat illegal immigration platform...

Sneak into America
Obtain services like healthcare and welfare paid for by Americans
Vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet illegal immigrants
Victimize Americans
Get deported from America
REPEAT...

 

[Nosmo King]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

 

[kyzr]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

Why do the democrats also object to putting "no fly" and "gang members" on "red flag" lists so that their guns can be confiscated? Blood money donations?

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

Why do the democrats also object to putting "no fly" and "gang members" on "red flag" lists so that their guns can be confiscated? Blood money donations?

Because they want them victimizing Americans. It's all part of their plan to destroy America and fundamentally transform it into a global socialist police state run by oligarchs out of Europe.

Democrat illegal immigration platform...

Sneak into America
Obtain services like healthcare and welfare paid for by Americans
Vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet illegal immigrants
Victimize Americans
Get deported from America
REPEAT...

Obviously Democrats don't have America's best interests at heart.

 

[Nosmo King]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

Do you really believe that? Could 55% of Americans be "traitors"? Where do you get this information? Is everything a massive conspiracy?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

There is literally no reason to oppose the wall unless you happen to live within sight of it and don't want the view. Even then I would think most would prefer the wall to illegals trashing their property....unless of course they are part of the hate America crowd

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

Do you really believe that? Could 55% of Americans be "traitors"? Where do you get this information? Is everything a massive conspiracy?

I don't believe them to be traitors. I believe they are IGNORANT of the impact illegals impose on this nation. They reside in their little bubbles seemingly unaffected by it so they don't care. Typical complacent selfishness.

 

[Nosmo King]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

There is literally no reason to oppose the wall unless you happen to live within sight of it and don't want the view. Even then I would think most would prefer the wall to illegals trashing their property....unless of course they are part of the hate America crowd

There are plenty of reasons to oppose the wall that have nothing to do with promoting 'open borders'. One of those reasons is the cost compared to high tech options. Another reason is the ineffectiveness of a physical wall. And consider the Republican congress refused to fund it because of these very reasons.

So, Republican leaders, knowledgeable Americans and those who recognize these reasons are, by your definition, treasonous.

How far can you make this case for further political division?

 

[Nosmo King]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

Do you really believe that? Could 55% of Americans be "traitors"? Where do you get this information? Is everything a massive conspiracy?

I don't believe them to be traitors. I believe they are IGNORANT of the impact illegals impose on this nation. They reside in their little bubbles seemingly unaffected by it so they don't care. Typical complacent selfishness.

Should everyone be as fearful, suspicious and narrow minded to believe the worst?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

One of those reasons is the cost compared to high tech options.

High tech options do not stop border crossing. They only alert you to them. On top of that the cost would likely surpass a wall in the long run. You have initial investment, maintenance, new manpower to operate it as well as agents to actually act upon its data, replacement or updating costs when the inevitable jammers are created.
A wall by comparison has very little of those costs.

Another reason is the ineffectiveness of a physical wal

That is just an ignorant statement that deserves no further discussion.

 

[my2¢]

I wouldn't support either. I'm not anti-wall, but I have less faith in Trump's solitary wall than GW Bush's double fence and so I wouldn't willingly waste my money on it. On the other side, I donate to help the basic needs of food, clothing, shelter for people in need, but not Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES). I limit my contributions for education to a memorial fund established for my brother at the university where he taught.

 

[Nosmo King]

One of those reasons is the cost compared to high tech options.

High tech options do not stop border crossing. They only alert you to them. On top of that the cost would likely surpass a wall in the long run. You have initial investment, maintenance, new manpower to operate it as well as agents to actually act upon its data, replacement or updating costs when the inevitable jammers are created.
A wall by comparison has very little of those costs.

Another reason is the ineffectiveness of a physical wal

That is just an ignorant statement that deserves no further discussion.

Your dismissal of arguments on effectiveness reveals a deeper ignorance. Build a thirty foot high wall? Aren't there thirty-one foot tall ladders? Has anyone ever broken out of prisons bounded by walls?

 

[TheGreatSatan]

One of those reasons is the cost compared to high tech options.

High tech options do not stop border crossing. They only alert you to them. On top of that the cost would likely surpass a wall in the long run. You have initial investment, maintenance, new manpower to operate it as well as agents to actually act upon its data, replacement or updating costs when the inevitable jammers are created.
A wall by comparison has very little of those costs.

Another reason is the ineffectiveness of a physical wal

That is just an ignorant statement that deserves no further discussion.

Democrats know that all a foreign national has to do is get across the border. Even if they are caught, they are just released. A border wall prevents foreign nationals from stepping foot in America and that's why Democrats are dead set against it.

Democrats illegal immigration platform...

Sneak into America
Obtain services like healthcare and welfare paid for by Americans
Vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet illegal immigrants
Victimize Americans
Get deported from America
REPEAT...

a wall also stops the last step. The reason Obama deported so many people was because he was deporting the same people over and over again.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

I wouldn't support either. I'm not anti-wall, but I have less faith in Trump's solitary wall than GW Bush's double fence and so I wouldn't willingly waste my money on it. On the other side, I donate to help the basic needs of food, clothing, shelter for people in need, but not Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES). I limit my contributions for education to a memorial fund established for my brother at the university where he taught.

So you step over tent cities full of needy homeless Americans to donate and help needy homeless foreign nationals?

Charity begins at home, and if it doesn't it's not charity, it's something sinister.

 

[Nosmo King]

One of those reasons is the cost compared to high tech options.

High tech options do not stop border crossing. They only alert you to them. On top of that the cost would likely surpass a wall in the long run. You have initial investment, maintenance, new manpower to operate it as well as agents to actually act upon its data, replacement or updating costs when the inevitable jammers are created.
A wall by comparison has very little of those costs.

Another reason is the ineffectiveness of a physical wal

That is just an ignorant statement that deserves no further discussion.

Democrats know that all a foreign national has to do is get across the border. Even if they are caught, they are just released. A border wall prevents foreign nationals from stepping foot in America and that's why Democrats are dead set against it.

Democrats illegal immigration platform...

Sneak into America
Obtain services like healthcare and welfare paid for by Americans
Vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet illegal immigrants
Victimize Americans
Get deported from America
REPEAT...

a wall also stops the last step. The reason Obama deported so many people was because he was deporting the same people over and over again.

How are those who enter the country illegally able to vote? Or are you just fear mongering? How on earth did you arrive at those ludicrous conclusions? Or is hyperbole and lying (two very Trumpian traits) just intellectually easier than content thought?

 

[TheGreatSatan]

One of those reasons is the cost compared to high tech options.

High tech options do not stop border crossing. They only alert you to them. On top of that the cost would likely surpass a wall in the long run. You have initial investment, maintenance, new manpower to operate it as well as agents to actually act upon its data, replacement or updating costs when the inevitable jammers are created.
A wall by comparison has very little of those costs.

Another reason is the ineffectiveness of a physical wal

That is just an ignorant statement that deserves no further discussion.

Democrats know that all a foreign national has to do is get across the border. Even if they are caught, they are just released. A border wall prevents foreign nationals from stepping foot in America and that's why Democrats are dead set against it.

Democrats illegal immigration platform...

Sneak into America
Obtain services like healthcare and welfare paid for by Americans
Vote for anti American globalist Democrats who aid and abet illegal immigrants
Victimize Americans
Get deported from America
REPEAT...

a wall also stops the last step. The reason Obama deported so many people was because he was deporting the same people over and over again.

How are those who enter the country illegally able to vote? Or are you just fear mongering? How on earth did you arrive at those ludicrous conclusions? Or is hyperbole and lying (two very Trumpian traits) just intellectually easier than content thought?

Democrats provide foreign nationals they aid and abet with stolen ID to get jobs, services, and vote.

If you believe foreign nationals aren't using their stolen IDs to vote for Democrats who aid and abet them, you are obviously clueless to reality.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Link for patriots:

Click here to support We The People BUILT the Wall! organized by Brian Kolfage

Link for traitors:

Click here to support Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall organized by Charlotte Clymer

Is it feasible to oppose Trump and his silly wall without being regarded as treasonous? Is this debate, like all things Trump, really a binary choice, or is everything so difficult for the addle minded to find nuance and compromise?

Democrats are against the wall because they are on the take from the cartels and like the human trafficking. Democrats literally believe that people don't come here through the desert, especially bad people. That's how dumb and brainwashed they are. Like biden says, Democrats respect no borders.

Do you really believe that? Could 55% of Americans be "traitors"? Where do you get this information? Is everything a massive conspiracy?

Bull shit... only about 22% of democrats want open borders.. your wishful thinking is pure crap and yes, those who want open borders want the destruction of the US and are traitors!

 

[The Original Tree]

It's a Felony to aide and assist an illegal alien to enter this country illegally. I suspect that website will be shut down soon and the people prosecuted.