Patriots Super Bowl ring

[Alex.]

Even Tommy cringes for you cheater apologists when he's off camera. Sheesh.

Dude, you don't have the faintest idea what Tom Brady does when he's "off camera"! He lives a life you can't even imagine and it's got you so jealous you can't stand it!

I'm pretty sure HE'S not fixated on some of the sick shit you are.

I know what Brady does off field, he shakes it for bois like you, just to tease and thrill ya

Newsflash...Tom Brady dances like a white boy from the suburbs! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your posts get more ridiculous with each passing day...

"Your posts get more ridiculous with each passing day"~Oldfartstyle

I post to the audience I am responding to, after all that audience is you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oldfartstyle dreaming of Tom Brady's balls.

I just noticed your sig.I love it.

check out my sig.

trollstyle reminds me an awful lot of rightwinger USMB's resident troll.

have you ever run into disinfo agent rightwinger before by chance? if not,consider yourself lucky.He is a clone of trollstyle.they should get married.they make a perfect couple.

Do not know the person but based on Odlfartstyle posts I would not be surprised by anything.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I wonder what trollstyles explanation is for his alleged theory of not only me hating the patriots even though i had always rooted for them to win the five previous superbowls like i mentioned before,but ALSO what his theory is that dot com is a hater as well when he doesnt even watch football or cheer on ANY teams.what did trollstyle say to you back then when you brought up that pesky fact Dot?

btw alex,you have heard me say that the past 20 years the chargers have been my favorite team,whos is yours,I never heard you get back to me on that?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Dude, you don't have the faintest idea what Tom Brady does when he's "off camera"! He lives a life you can't even imagine and it's got you so jealous you can't stand it!

I'm pretty sure HE'S not fixated on some of the sick shit you are.

I know what Brady does off field, he shakes it for bois like you, just to tease and thrill ya

Newsflash...Tom Brady dances like a white boy from the suburbs! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your posts get more ridiculous with each passing day...

"Your posts get more ridiculous with each passing day"~Oldfartstyle

I post to the audience I am responding to, after all that audience is you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oldfartstyle dreaming of Tom Brady's balls.

I just noticed your sig.I love it.

check out my sig.

trollstyle reminds me an awful lot of rightwinger USMB's resident troll.

have you ever run into disinfo agent rightwinger before by chance? if not,consider yourself lucky.He is a clone of trollstyle.they should get married.they make a perfect couple.

Do not know the person but based on Odlfartstyle posts I would not be surprised by anything.

Like I said,consider yourself lucky you have not run into him.He is everybit just as much a stupid shit as he is.USMB attracts the biggest trolls in the country sadly.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

For breaking a rule, but it did not help them win either the game before the Superbowl or the Superbowl. Superbowl win is legit.

If it did not help they would not do it. Remember the mantra "competitive advantage" in Patriots case it is plain old rule breaking for which the team paid dearly and Tommy will turn his head and cough while under examination.

Lol. What? This doesn't even make sense. Doesn't matter anyways. The Pats will still be good this year. They are a good team with good players and good coaching. That's all there is to it!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

 

[Papageorgio]

^^^troll ***** ALERT!!^^^^

 

[Alex.]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

For breaking a rule, but it did not help them win either the game before the Superbowl or the Superbowl. Superbowl win is legit.

If it did not help they would not do it. Remember the mantra "competitive advantage" in Patriots case it is plain old rule breaking for which the team paid dearly and Tommy will turn his head and cough while under examination.

Lol. What? This doesn't even make sense. Doesn't matter anyways. The Pats will still be good this year. They are a good team with good players and good coaching. That's all there is to it!

Good coaching? Wherever Beli-cheat is there is a fetid stench that follows him. This time his stink assaulted the nostrils of the FBI with his friendship of LaRussa.




"In addition to being friends, they both managed franchises that have been accused of cheating in various ways. Sure, La Russa retired the same year that Jeff Luhnow left St. Louis for Houston, but still. Think about it. The Patriot Way. The Cardinal Way."

Bill Belichick and Tony La Russa Are Friends The Big Lead

"Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said."
St. Louis Cardinals Under FBI Investigation For Hacking Houston Astros The Big Lead


IIRC LaRussa credits Beli-cheat with teaching him everything he knows about gaining a "competitive edge" over his competitors in MLB.


Alex Carr on Twitter VeniceMase LAIreland The Patriots of baseball http t.co KBBBB6yp3v

 

[Oldstyle]

So you admit that Brady is well within his rights to appeal? And you also admit that the NFL hasn't proven that Brady violated any rules?

Here's my problem with this whole charade, Alex...you've got NFL rules and then you've got the legal rights of every American. Which takes precedence when push comes to shove? I know the NFL likes to THINK that they can make up rules that take precedence over those legal rights but I'd love to see someone bring a case to the Supreme Court to see if in fact they do. Having players agree to a CBA so that they can play in the league is akin to having workers in a factory give up their legal rights in order to get hired.

You are dumber than a bag of deflated balls. This is all on Brady, he wanted the rules, he got the rules, from CBA to ball regulations, on both counts he has broken the rules he begged for and now wants to wiggle his way out of it without paying the price. This time he does not have Krapt to protect him, he is no longer as valuable as he used to be to Krapt in the long run.

So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?

Once again, nobody has PROVEN that Tom Brady did anything to break the NFL rules on ball inflation. I'm sorry but they haven't! The Wells Report is a joke! It's two hundred pages that come to the conclusion that Brady "might" have known and "might" have asked for something to be done illegally. Well I've got news for you, Alex...if Brady "might" have known...then he also might NOT have known! That's how a word like "might" works! It's why Brady wants this to be heard by an independent arbiter...something that Goodell should have immediately agreed to.

How can the Commissioner serve as both arbiter and a witness in the same case? That wouldn't take place anywhere else yet Goodell is refusing to step aside. This isn't about getting to the truth...it's become a public relations issue.

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

 

[Dot Com]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

in a cheatriot fan boi's mind? Yes

 

[Oldstyle]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

For breaking a rule, but it did not help them win either the game before the Superbowl or the Superbowl. Superbowl win is legit.

If it did not help they would not do it. Remember the mantra "competitive advantage" in Patriots case it is plain old rule breaking for which the team paid dearly and Tommy will turn his head and cough while under examination.

Lol. What? This doesn't even make sense. Doesn't matter anyways. The Pats will still be good this year. They are a good team with good players and good coaching. That's all there is to it!

Good coaching? Wherever Beli-cheat is there is a fetid stench that follows him. This time his stink assaulted the nostrils of the FBI with his friendship of LaRussa.




"In addition to being friends, they both managed franchises that have been accused of cheating in various ways. Sure, La Russa retired the same year that Jeff Luhnow left St. Louis for Houston, but still. Think about it. The Patriot Way. The Cardinal Way."

Bill Belichick and Tony La Russa Are Friends The Big Lead

"Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said."
St. Louis Cardinals Under FBI Investigation For Hacking Houston Astros The Big Lead


IIRC LaRussa credits Beli-cheat with teaching him everything he knows about gaining a "competitive edge" over his competitors in MLB.


Alex Carr on Twitter VeniceMase LAIreland The Patriots of baseball http t.co KBBBB6yp3v

Seriously, Alex? Now Bill Belichick is responsible for the Cardinal's hacking someone's computer? What is your DEAL? You've gone from the ridiculous to the absurd.

 

[Papageorgio]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

For breaking a rule, but it did not help them win either the game before the Superbowl or the Superbowl. Superbowl win is legit.

If it did not help they would not do it. Remember the mantra "competitive advantage" in Patriots case it is plain old rule breaking for which the team paid dearly and Tommy will turn his head and cough while under examination.

Lol. What? This doesn't even make sense. Doesn't matter anyways. The Pats will still be good this year. They are a good team with good players and good coaching. That's all there is to it!

Good coaching? Wherever Beli-cheat is there is a fetid stench that follows him. This time his stink assaulted the nostrils of the FBI with his friendship of LaRussa.




"In addition to being friends, they both managed franchises that have been accused of cheating in various ways. Sure, La Russa retired the same year that Jeff Luhnow left St. Louis for Houston, but still. Think about it. The Patriot Way. The Cardinal Way."

Bill Belichick and Tony La Russa Are Friends The Big Lead

"Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said."
St. Louis Cardinals Under FBI Investigation For Hacking Houston Astros The Big Lead


IIRC LaRussa credits Beli-cheat with teaching him everything he knows about gaining a "competitive edge" over his competitors in MLB.


Alex Carr on Twitter VeniceMase LAIreland The Patriots of baseball http t.co KBBBB6yp3v

Now you are being dumb.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

For breaking a rule, but it did not help them win either the game before the Superbowl or the Superbowl. Superbowl win is legit.

If it did not help they would not do it. Remember the mantra "competitive advantage" in Patriots case it is plain old rule breaking for which the team paid dearly and Tommy will turn his head and cough while under examination.

Lol. What? This doesn't even make sense. Doesn't matter anyways. The Pats will still be good this year. They are a good team with good players and good coaching. That's all there is to it!

Good coaching? Wherever Beli-cheat is there is a fetid stench that follows him. This time his stink assaulted the nostrils of the FBI with his friendship of LaRussa.




"In addition to being friends, they both managed franchises that have been accused of cheating in various ways. Sure, La Russa retired the same year that Jeff Luhnow left St. Louis for Houston, but still. Think about it. The Patriot Way. The Cardinal Way."

Bill Belichick and Tony La Russa Are Friends The Big Lead

"Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials. Internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports were compromised, the officials said."
St. Louis Cardinals Under FBI Investigation For Hacking Houston Astros The Big Lead


IIRC LaRussa credits Beli-cheat with teaching him everything he knows about gaining a "competitive edge" over his competitors in MLB.


Alex Carr on Twitter VeniceMase LAIreland The Patriots of baseball http t.co KBBBB6yp3v

So now, your Patriots Derangement Syndrome leads you to the paranoid thinking that the Patriots organization is responsible for other's cheating?

 

[ChrisL]

Well, as you can see, the deflated ball (s) didn't help the Pats win the game since most of their points were scored by running plays and during the second half is when they scored the most points. Also, there is NO evidence at all that they used deflated balls (in fact they did not) during the SB. END thread.

The PATS paid a million smackers and high draft picks for doing nothing huh.

in a cheatriot fan boi's mind? Yes

Notice that you cannot argue the point that the Pats would have won that game, deflated balls or no deflated balls. Correct? You and your silly little friends are obviously suffering from jealousy to the point of delusional hatred. I think you really need to get a grip on yourself, seriously.

 

[ChrisL]

You are dumber than a bag of deflated balls. This is all on Brady, he wanted the rules, he got the rules, from CBA to ball regulations, on both counts he has broken the rules he begged for and now wants to wiggle his way out of it without paying the price. This time he does not have Krapt to protect him, he is no longer as valuable as he used to be to Krapt in the long run.

So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?

Once again, nobody has PROVEN that Tom Brady did anything to break the NFL rules on ball inflation. I'm sorry but they haven't! The Wells Report is a joke! It's two hundred pages that come to the conclusion that Brady "might" have known and "might" have asked for something to be done illegally. Well I've got news for you, Alex...if Brady "might" have known...then he also might NOT have known! That's how a word like "might" works! It's why Brady wants this to be heard by an independent arbiter...something that Goodell should have immediately agreed to.

How can the Commissioner serve as both arbiter and a witness in the same case? That wouldn't take place anywhere else yet Goodell is refusing to step aside. This isn't about getting to the truth...it's become a public relations issue.

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

Obviously their jealousy has driven them over the edge. The one thing they seem to be forgetting . . . football is meant for entertainment purposes. Kind of sad that people would be able to have such hatred over a sport.

 

[Alex.]

So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?

Once again, nobody has PROVEN that Tom Brady did anything to break the NFL rules on ball inflation. I'm sorry but they haven't! The Wells Report is a joke! It's two hundred pages that come to the conclusion that Brady "might" have known and "might" have asked for something to be done illegally. Well I've got news for you, Alex...if Brady "might" have known...then he also might NOT have known! That's how a word like "might" works! It's why Brady wants this to be heard by an independent arbiter...something that Goodell should have immediately agreed to.

How can the Commissioner serve as both arbiter and a witness in the same case? That wouldn't take place anywhere else yet Goodell is refusing to step aside. This isn't about getting to the truth...it's become a public relations issue.

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

Obviously their jealousy has driven them over the edge. The one thing they seem to be forgetting . . . football is meant for entertainment purposes. Kind of sad that people would be able to have such hatred over a sport.

I just post what has been examined and reported. Take up your concerns with the authors of the articles.

Cardinals cheating scandal points to one key fan Bill Belichick Sun Times National

 

[Alex.]

You are dumber than a bag of deflated balls. This is all on Brady, he wanted the rules, he got the rules, from CBA to ball regulations, on both counts he has broken the rules he begged for and now wants to wiggle his way out of it without paying the price. This time he does not have Krapt to protect him, he is no longer as valuable as he used to be to Krapt in the long run.

So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?

Once again, nobody has PROVEN that Tom Brady did anything to break the NFL rules on ball inflation. I'm sorry but they haven't! The Wells Report is a joke! It's two hundred pages that come to the conclusion that Brady "might" have known and "might" have asked for something to be done illegally. Well I've got news for you, Alex...if Brady "might" have known...then he also might NOT have known! That's how a word like "might" works! It's why Brady wants this to be heard by an independent arbiter...something that Goodell should have immediately agreed to.

How can the Commissioner serve as both arbiter and a witness in the same case? That wouldn't take place anywhere else yet Goodell is refusing to step aside. This isn't about getting to the truth...it's become a public relations issue.

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

Either you do not understand the standard or will accept that the standard is appropriate and was bargained for and voted by Brady. It was his choice to accept or reject this in the CBA.

 

[Alex.]

I wonder what trollstyles explanation is for his alleged theory of not only me hating the patriots even though i had always rooted for them to win the five previous superbowls like i mentioned before,but ALSO what his theory is that dot com is a hater as well when he doesnt even watch football or cheer on ANY teams.what did trollstyle say to you back then when you brought up that pesky fact Dot?

btw alex,you have heard me say that the past 20 years the chargers have been my favorite team,whos is yours,I never heard you get back to me on that?

I like the Game itself. As far as a team maybe this will give you an idea.

 

[Oldstyle]

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

Obviously their jealousy has driven them over the edge. The one thing they seem to be forgetting . . . football is meant for entertainment purposes. Kind of sad that people would be able to have such hatred over a sport.

I just post what has been examined and reported. Take up your concerns with the authors of the articles.

Cardinals cheating scandal points to one key fan Bill Belichick Sun Times National

Dude, you troll the internet looking for every negative site you can find about Tom Brady and Bill Belichick! You've got some serious issues...

 

[Oldstyle]

So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?

Once again, nobody has PROVEN that Tom Brady did anything to break the NFL rules on ball inflation. I'm sorry but they haven't! The Wells Report is a joke! It's two hundred pages that come to the conclusion that Brady "might" have known and "might" have asked for something to be done illegally. Well I've got news for you, Alex...if Brady "might" have known...then he also might NOT have known! That's how a word like "might" works! It's why Brady wants this to be heard by an independent arbiter...something that Goodell should have immediately agreed to.

How can the Commissioner serve as both arbiter and a witness in the same case? That wouldn't take place anywhere else yet Goodell is refusing to step aside. This isn't about getting to the truth...it's become a public relations issue.

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

Either you do not understand the standard or will accept that the standard is appropriate and was bargained for and voted by Brady. It was his choice to accept or reject this in the CBA.

When Brady voted for the CBA he didn't give up his right to appeal an unfair ruling by the league...that's written into the CBA. You have the misconception that by appealing Goodell's ruling that Brady is somehow reneging on an agreement. Nothing could be further from the truth. The person who is in the wrong on this issue at the moment is Goodell himself...who SHOULD have recused himself and let an independent arbiter decide what was an appropriate punishment. I say that for two very obvious reasons...the first is that Goodell is himself a witness in the case...how do you serve as judge and testify as a witness at the same time? Ever seen that ANYWHERE? Secondly, if Goodell does reduce Brady's suspension...obsessive Patriot haters like yourself will immediately claim that he's only done so because of his relationship with Robert Kraft.

 

[Papageorgio]

So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?

Once again, nobody has PROVEN that Tom Brady did anything to break the NFL rules on ball inflation. I'm sorry but they haven't! The Wells Report is a joke! It's two hundred pages that come to the conclusion that Brady "might" have known and "might" have asked for something to be done illegally. Well I've got news for you, Alex...if Brady "might" have known...then he also might NOT have known! That's how a word like "might" works! It's why Brady wants this to be heard by an independent arbiter...something that Goodell should have immediately agreed to.

How can the Commissioner serve as both arbiter and a witness in the same case? That wouldn't take place anywhere else yet Goodell is refusing to step aside. This isn't about getting to the truth...it's become a public relations issue.

"So when Brady follows the rules of the CBA and appeals a decision...you think he's trying to "wiggle his way out"?" Read what I wrote, answer it and then I will take you seriously. For many many posts in this thread you are a fanboi and a Brady apologist. Refusal to deal with the realities of the situation and how Brady got to where he is today does not change any facts.

I did answer it. The NFL hasn't proven it's case against Tom Brady. Instead they've suspended him because of a failure to cooperate as fully as THEY think he should have. Brady is appealing that ruling. That is the reality of the situation.

He broke the rules of that there is no question and by a preponderance of the evidence "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady ... was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities ... involving the release of air from Patriots game balls"

BTW he wanted those rules he voted for the CBA and it's contents.

Alex...read that statement and THINK about it for just a brief moment! "more probable than not"? "generally aware of the inappropriate activities"? That language is the epitome of vague. What exactly does "generally aware" mean? How much more probable than not? You'd get laughed out of a court of law if you built a case on testimony like that.

Either you do not understand the standard or will accept that the standard is appropriate and was bargained for and voted by Brady. It was his choice to accept or reject this in the CBA.

He is allowed to appeal, it is also written into the CBA. Also the standard for altering the PSI of a football is $25,000, abiding by those terms were also agreed to in the CBA. It's okay for the NFL to change the punishment.

I believe the punishment is appropriate, I also believe the suspension will be reduced. I also believe Brady cheated, yet I also agree he has a right to appeal, he has the right to claim what he wishes.