Patriots Super Bowl ring

[Dot Com]

Oldstyle has his head so far up Brady's ass that he is considered a deduction on Brady's taxes

I know right? Thats pretty apparent

 

[Dot Com]

I started watching in 83 or 84. You are right...seen a lot f bad seasons. The whole 90s decade to be precise. Here is just one picture from my room. It is full of Seahawks treasures

I just purchased a 1995 f250 4x4 windsor 5.1 completely painted in custom Seahawk colors. I needed the truck for mobile welding and moving my boat around and the paint job is a bonus.

PS... For those of you that live in places where they salt the roads a "95" seems a bad bet. I get it. BUT up here in the Pacific NW we rarely put anything on the highways and the air is rarely humid. The under carraige and body in this truck has ZERO rust. one small shallow dent in the bed and a shot tranny. I picked it up for $850. I'll rebuild the trans for a couple hundred in parts and VOILA! A $4000 dollar rig for a grand.

kewl find. You know a thing about working on transmissions or you know someone who does. Yeah, the parts are prolly not too expensive, its just the disassembly, id'ing the bad part & reassembly thats the hardest part I'm guessing.

 

[ChrisL]

Oldstyle has his head so far up Brady's ass that he is considered a deduction on Brady's taxes

I know right? Thats pretty apparent

Go Pats!!! Want to join me in a cheer?

 

[Dot Com]

Oldstyle has his head so far up Brady's ass that he is considered a deduction on Brady's taxes

I know right? Thats pretty apparent

Go Pats!!! Want to join me in a cheer?

why do you make it so difficult for me to get along w/ you

 

[Oldstyle]

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Williams has been in the NFL since 2008. He was OK in Philly but tended to over run routes. He will learn a lot in Seattle on how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. The only high pick on the LOB is Thomas. The rest of the LOB had to be coached up to get that good. Even Maxwell was a dog two years ago. It took him a while to get up to near the level of the rest of Seattle's DBs. Browner wasn't all that good either until after getting Seattle coaching. Now being out of the system for a couple of years he can't seem to keep a job.

To be honest with you, Huggy...what I'm seeing in the NFL right now is a change in defensive philosophy. Because of the way the rules now favor receivers so heavily over DB's, coaches like Bill Belichick appear to have made a decision to stress a relentless pass rush...loading up on players who can get after a quarterback...at the expense of the defensive back position. That should be familiar to you as a Seahawks fan because that was what Seattle was doing two years ago...rotating in wave after wave of people to rush the quarterback. You didn't have that same depth this past year because of losses to free agency.

I'll be curious to see how that evolves in New England...whether they can get the defensive pressure they need from the pass rush to make up for the lack of "star" corners.

 

[HUGGY]

I started watching in 83 or 84. You are right...seen a lot f bad seasons. The whole 90s decade to be precise. Here is just one picture from my room. It is full of Seahawks treasures

I just purchased a 1995 f250 4x4 windsor 5.1 completely painted in custom Seahawk colors. I needed the truck for mobile welding and moving my boat around and the paint job is a bonus.

PS... For those of you that live in places where they salt the roads a "95" seems a bad bet. I get it. BUT up here in the Pacific NW we rarely put anything on the highways and the air is rarely humid. The under carraige and body in this truck has ZERO rust. one small shallow dent in the bed and a shot tranny. I picked it up for $850. I'll rebuild the trans for a couple hundred in parts and VOILA! A $4000 dollar rig for a grand.

kewl find. You know a thing about working on transmissions or you know someone who does. Yeah, the parts are prolly not too expensive, its just the disassembly, id'ing the bad part & reassembly thats the hardest part I'm guessing.

This trans just started slipping. No strange noises. The engine is super strong. It could be nothing more than worn out friction discs and maybe a few over heated steel discs. Trans repair is really a racket. The shop never even saw the truck and gave the guy a written estimate for $3500. I fired it up and got slight movement.

I've rebuilt a c-6 for my F150 72 4x4 short box back in 1985. A couple of Saab AT's for a shop a long time ago and around a hundred manual Land rover trannies and diffs for another shop I worked for many years ago. I refreshed by watching several Videos on the you tube. The YT is the best thing to happen in vehicle or just about anything needing repaired that has ever come along.

Ya..this E4OD trans is very similar to the older C-6. Once you get the transfer case out of the way you've already done the hardest part.

 

[HUGGY]

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Williams has been in the NFL since 2008. He was OK in Philly but tended to over run routes. He will learn a lot in Seattle on how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. The only high pick on the LOB is Thomas. The rest of the LOB had to be coached up to get that good. Even Maxwell was a dog two years ago. It took him a while to get up to near the level of the rest of Seattle's DBs. Browner wasn't all that good either until after getting Seattle coaching. Now being out of the system for a couple of years he can't seem to keep a job.

To be honest with you, Huggy...what I'm seeing in the NFL right now is a change in defensive philosophy. Because of the way the rules now favor receivers so heavily over DB's, coaches like Bill Belichick appear to have made a decision to stress a relentless pass rush...loading up on players who can get after a quarterback...at the expense of the defensive back position. That should be familiar to you as a Seahawks fan because that was what Seattle was doing two years ago...rotating in wave after wave of people to rush the quarterback. You didn't have that same depth this past year because of losses to free agency.

I'll be curious to see how that evolves in New England...whether they can get the defensive pressure they need from the pass rush to make up for the lack of "star" corners.

I see your point but without Revis and Browner I don't see how they can slap Indy around anymore. Especially now that the Colts have Gore in the backfield. Ya he's aging but if he has any left in the tank he can be an awesome back to try to take down. He's not Marshawn Lynch by any means but he's real good at finding creases and holes and when he gets a step he can go the distance.

.Also they, NE, are without the running attack they enjoyed the last two seasons. If the Pats make it back to the Super Bowl this season it will be all about the smoke and mirrors.

 

[Oldstyle]

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Williams has been in the NFL since 2008. He was OK in Philly but tended to over run routes. He will learn a lot in Seattle on how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. The only high pick on the LOB is Thomas. The rest of the LOB had to be coached up to get that good. Even Maxwell was a dog two years ago. It took him a while to get up to near the level of the rest of Seattle's DBs. Browner wasn't all that good either until after getting Seattle coaching. Now being out of the system for a couple of years he can't seem to keep a job.

To be honest with you, Huggy...what I'm seeing in the NFL right now is a change in defensive philosophy. Because of the way the rules now favor receivers so heavily over DB's, coaches like Bill Belichick appear to have made a decision to stress a relentless pass rush...loading up on players who can get after a quarterback...at the expense of the defensive back position. That should be familiar to you as a Seahawks fan because that was what Seattle was doing two years ago...rotating in wave after wave of people to rush the quarterback. You didn't have that same depth this past year because of losses to free agency.

I'll be curious to see how that evolves in New England...whether they can get the defensive pressure they need from the pass rush to make up for the lack of "star" corners.

I see your point but without Revis and Browner I don't see how they can slap Indy around anymore. Especially now that the Colts have Gore in the backfield. Ya he's aging but if he has any left in the tank he can be an awesome back to try to take down. He's not Marshawn Lynch by any means but he's real good at finding creases and holes and when he gets a step he can go the distance.

.Also they, NE, are without the running attack they enjoyed the last two seasons. If the Pats make it back to the Super Bowl this season it will be all about the smoke and mirrors.

What I was saying is that because the NFL doesn't really allow DB's to hit anymore...the onus is going to be on defensive linemen to put enough pressure on the QB to either get sacks, incomplete passes or interceptions. Someone like a Browner is becoming outdated because the league no longer lets corners beat up receivers at the line and you can't touch them down the field. I'm seeing the NFL defense of the future reacting to the rule changes by becoming "pass rush crazy"...hoping that your pass rushers can get to the quarterback enough times to disrupt the other teams offense. Corners will need to cover for shorter amounts of time. Safeties will become even more essential because they're going to be who limits the damage when QB's do get the time to make a completion.

 

[Oldstyle]

And let's face it, Huggy...the running back position is a bit of an afterthought these days. It's become a passing league. Teams don't draft running backs the way that they used to. They're looking for receivers and pass rushers. They'll draft backs in the later rounds or pick up free agents on the cheap. It's a shitty time to be a running back if you're looking for big money.

 

[Oldstyle]

Indy's gotten better but until they get an answer on how to cover Gronk and Edelmann they're not stopping Brady and the Patriots offense. Those two guys are a huge mismatch problem for defensive coordinators and that hasn't changed.

 

[Oldstyle]

All the Patriots really lacked on offense last year was a burner wide receiver to stretch the field for them but then again Brady has always been comfortable throwing short to middle routes and dissecting the defense slowly. I don't see that changing any time soon.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That is what Carroll and Schneider have been doing. I heard they are going to consider Vick for a backup QB as well

thats obviously an unsubstaniated rumor.Schneider runs too much of a first class organization that he would go out and sign a thug like Vick.That was why they let Browner go cause he's a thug.Browner reinforced what a thug he was when he said he would try and hurt the seahawk players in the superbowl. that kind of mentality was why they let him go. Vick would be a PERFECT fit for the cheatriots organization though however. Belicheat LOVES having murderers on his team.

Like I said before,the cheats have become this generations Raiders team.The Raiders under Al Davis,always signed players like that.The Raiders being as bad as they have been for so long now though,you dont hear much about that anymore.The Raiders in their thug image cant hold a candle to the classless cheats anymore now with traiter Al gone.

 

[Oldstyle]

That is what Carroll and Schneider have been doing. I heard they are going to consider Vick for a backup QB as well

thats obviously an unsubstaniated rumor.Schneider runs too much of a first class organization that he would go out and sign a thug like Vick.That was why they let Browner go cause he's a thug.Browner reinforced what a thug he was when he said he would try and hurt the seahawk players in the superbowl. that kind of mentality was why they let him go. Vick would be a PERFECT fit for the cheatriots organization though however. Belicheat LOVES having murderers on his team.

Like I said before,the cheats have become this generations Raiders team.The Raiders under Al Davis,always signed players like that.The Raiders being as bad as they have been for so long now though,you dont hear much about that anymore.The Raiders in their thug image cant hold a candle to the classless cheats anymore now with traiter Al gone.

Dude, you're so clueless about the Patriots it's laughable. Not only do they not "LOVE" having murderers on the team they just cut Brandon Spikes because he's suspected of having committed a hit and run where no one was injured. The Cowboys just signed two players with serious off field issues...the Bengals have been signing players with off field problems for years now...the Patriots are choirboys compared to half the teams in the league.

 

[Oldstyle]

And your belief that pushing the limit on ball inflation and filming the opponents side line from somewhere other than where the NFL allows you to film...translates into "THUG" behavior is absurd. Bountygate "might" fit the definition of "thuggish" behavior...trying to claim that Deflategate and Spygate makes the Patriots "thugs" is laughable.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

two farts in a row from you trollstyle.

you sure are a psycho nutcase they way you talk to yourself all the time.

as always,you have your head up brady and belicheats ass.

 

[Oldstyle]

LOL...what is with your fixation on farts, dude? Seriously...you act like you're 8 years old.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

trollstyle as always,goes into meltdown mode cause the truth hurts his feelings.which is no surprise of course since he has his head up brady and belicheats ass.

 

[Oldstyle]

My pointing out that you're into "toilet humor" is going into meltdown mode? I think you're a buffoon. People seldom melt down over buffoons...they usually just laugh at them. You haven't contributed anything intelligent to this string in so long I don't know why you even bother to post.

 

[HUGGY]

All the Patriots really lacked on offense last year was a burner wide receiver to stretch the field for them but then again Brady has always been comfortable throwing short to middle routes and dissecting the defense slowly. I don't see that changing any time soon.

EVERY team seeks "burners" and every team signs them. The problem is finding these fleet athletes that can stand up to the bruising contact they face in the NFL.

Seattle has a whole stable , it seems, of these world class sprinters. They are mostly injured. That's why the shift by Hawk management to a taller, proven, durable performer has been the direction the Hawks have taken and as in almost every thing Carroll and Schneider do the smarter GMs and coaches will follow suit.

You can't fulfill a dream of the speedy receiver outrunning the field and the hail mary ball scoring TDs after TDs with just their blinding velocity if they are all sitting in their condo's with their feet up on the coffee table come kickoff time.

I have seen burner after burner show up at Hawk training camps, over the years, dazzling everyone with their lightning legs and some can catch the ball reliably when they wiz past a Richard Sherman...and some can't.

The truly reliable speed burner that can sustain even one season let alone a career is possibly the rarest of all birds. It's almost a fools gold.

Ya we got one of those in this season's draft. He was all talk about his receiving skills. What he HAD BETTER be good at is making decisions on whether to take a knee in the end zone or run it out past the twenty on kickoffs. Because THAT is why and only why he was drafted. Tyler Lockett dazed and amazed the fans out there in the flat lands of Kansas. Here in the mountainous Pacific Northwest things can get a little rocky if you can't make good decisions or take punishment.

 

[Oldstyle]

All the Patriots really lacked on offense last year was a burner wide receiver to stretch the field for them but then again Brady has always been comfortable throwing short to middle routes and dissecting the defense slowly. I don't see that changing any time soon.

EVERY team seeks "burners" and every team signs them. The problem is finding these fleet athletes that can stand up to the bruising contact they face in the NFL.

Seattle has a whole stable , it seems, of these world class sprinters. They are mostly injured. That's why the shift by Hawk management to a taller, proven, durable performer has been the direction the Hawks have taken and as in almost every thing Carroll and Schneider do the smarter GMs and coaches will follow suit.

You can't fulfill a dream of the speedy receiver outrunning the field and the hail mary ball scoring TDs after TDs with just their blinding velocity if they are all sitting in their condo's with their feet up on the coffee table come kickoff time.

I have seen burner after burner show up at Hawk training camps, over the years, dazzling everyone with their lightning legs and some can catch the ball reliably when they wiz past a Richard Sherman...and some can't.

The truly reliable speed burner that can sustain even one season let alone a career is possibly the rarest of all birds. It's almost a fools gold.

Ya we got one of those in this season's draft. He was all talk about his receiving skills. What he HAD BETTER be good at is making decisions on whether to take a knee in the end zone or run it out past the twenty on kickoffs. Because THAT is why and only why he was drafted. Tyler Lockett dazed and amazed the fans out there in the flat lands of Kansas. Here in the mountainous Pacific Northwest things can get a little rocky if you can't make good decisions or take punishment.

You'll get no argument from me on that point, Huggy! Finding the burner that doesn't fizzle when they get hit a few times is rare. The Patriots have drafted a number of them over the last five years and they've all been let go after a few seasons. I'd like us to have someone to provide the threat of the deep ball simply to keep the safeties honest and allow Gronk and Edelmann more room to work in the underneath routes but the Patriots haven't had that guy since Randy Moss left.