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I dislike any dirty team. It is the reason many despise the Raiders. You can put shilac on a turd but you know...it's still a turd. That is how people see the Patriots

you mean- the cheatriots. They were caught filming another team in 2007 was it?

 

[TrinityPower]

Oldstyle has his head so far up Brady's ass that he is considered a deduction on Brady's taxes

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Oldstyle has his head so far up Brady's ass that he is considered a deduction on Brady's taxes

and Belicheats as well.Trollstyle has his head up Brady and Belicheats asses same as Goddel has his up Krafts.

 

[HUGGY]

What really irritates a couple of losers like yourselves...is that Brady and the Patriots keep on winning no matter how many times people try to derail them. Spygate? That was a laugh. What was their record that year after they were "caught" doing that? Deflategate? What did they do to the Colts and the Seahawks after they were "caught" doing that?

You'll take away draft picks and fine the Patriots millions of dollars and at the end of the day...they'll keep on winning because they have a better owner than you do...they have a better coach then you have...and they have a better quarterback then you do!

UUMMmmm.... The Patriots keep on winning because they play in a soft division. They matched up well against Indy and were certainly fortunate to escape in the Super Bowl from almost certain defeat with a freak play from their rookie DB. 9 times out of ten Seattle scores and wins if the opportunity was the same.

The same could be said about the Seahawks. Except..in the previous SB the Hawks were healthy and totally destroyed the vaunted Broncos. The Patriots have never been head and shoulders better than their SB opponent. They have never stood out like the Montana led 9ers.

Ya...they won...but barely. They could have just as easily lost every SB they played in.

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

 

[Oldstyle]

Oldstyle is what they call a professional fan....he is on their payroll. Hey maybe he is the ball boy! Seriously, even the Patriot team members dislike Brady and say he isn't who the media portraits him to be

he'd make a good piss boy is more like it Hs a cheatriots fan boi. They could gang bang a brownie troop in front of the stadium & he's make some similar apologist excuse to justify it

You really are a bit twisted...aren't you, Dottie? "Piss boys"? "Gang banging brownie troops"? What's running around in that strange little mind of yours, dude?

On second thought...I don't think I want to know!

Piss Boy is from a Mel Brooks movie. Shows how wet behind the ears you are. No wonder you're a cheatriots fan boi. Young & impressionable.

Ah...I'm turning 60 this summer, Dottie! I haven't been young and impressionable since the 70's.

So you're not wordly then. Same diff

What the heck is "wordly"? If you meant worldly...then you're wrong once again. I've been fortunate enough to have worked and lived in some pretty cool places. Boston, Hilton Head, Myrtle Beach, Wilmington NC, Vegas, Aspen, Maui and now Naples. I've also traveled extensively...Europe, the Far East, New Zealand & Australia.

Anything else you'd like to incorrectly guess about?

 

[Oldstyle]

What really irritates a couple of losers like yourselves...is that Brady and the Patriots keep on winning no matter how many times people try to derail them. Spygate? That was a laugh. What was their record that year after they were "caught" doing that? Deflategate? What did they do to the Colts and the Seahawks after they were "caught" doing that?

You'll take away draft picks and fine the Patriots millions of dollars and at the end of the day...they'll keep on winning because they have a better owner than you do...they have a better coach then you have...and they have a better quarterback then you do!

UUMMmmm.... The Patriots keep on winning because they play in a soft division. They matched up well against Indy and were certainly fortunate to escape in the Super Bowl from almost certain defeat with a freak play from their rookie DB. 9 times out of ten Seattle scores and wins if the opportunity was the same.

The same could be said about the Seahawks. Except..in the previous SB the Hawks were healthy and totally destroyed the vaunted Broncos. The Patriots have never been head and shoulders better than their SB opponent. They have never stood out like the Montana led 9ers.

Ya...they won...but barely. They could have just as easily lost every SB they played in.

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

 

[Oldstyle]

That's the most intelligent post you're contributed here, 9/11...which is why you're the board's answer to Beavis & Butthead!

 

[HUGGY]

What really irritates a couple of losers like yourselves...is that Brady and the Patriots keep on winning no matter how many times people try to derail them. Spygate? That was a laugh. What was their record that year after they were "caught" doing that? Deflategate? What did they do to the Colts and the Seahawks after they were "caught" doing that?

You'll take away draft picks and fine the Patriots millions of dollars and at the end of the day...they'll keep on winning because they have a better owner than you do...they have a better coach then you have...and they have a better quarterback then you do!

UUMMmmm.... The Patriots keep on winning because they play in a soft division. They matched up well against Indy and were certainly fortunate to escape in the Super Bowl from almost certain defeat with a freak play from their rookie DB. 9 times out of ten Seattle scores and wins if the opportunity was the same.

The same could be said about the Seahawks. Except..in the previous SB the Hawks were healthy and totally destroyed the vaunted Broncos. The Patriots have never been head and shoulders better than their SB opponent. They have never stood out like the Montana led 9ers.

Ya...they won...but barely. They could have just as easily lost every SB they played in.

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

 

[TrinityPower]

I started watching in 83 or 84. You are right...seen a lot f bad seasons. The whole 90s decade to be precise. Here is just one picture from my room. It is full of Seahawks treasures

 

[HUGGY]

I started watching in 83 or 84. You are right...seen a lot f bad seasons. The whole 90s decade to be precise. Here is just one picture from my room. It is full of Seahawks treasures

I just purchased a 1995 f250 4x4 windsor 5.1 completely painted in custom Seahawk colors. I needed the truck for mobile welding and moving my boat around and the paint job is a bonus.

PS... For those of you that live in places where they salt the roads a "95" seems a bad bet. I get it. BUT up here in the Pacific NW we rarely put anything on the highways and the air is rarely humid. The under carraige and body in this truck has ZERO rust. one small shallow dent in the bed and a shot tranny. I picked it up for $850. I'll rebuild the trans for a couple hundred in parts and VOILA! A $4000 dollar rig for a grand.

 

[TrinityPower]

I have custom plates and the car is dark blue. The car I bought when I was 18 and still have is white and it came with pink and purple squiggly lines on the door...I had them changed to blue and green. My bedroom is painted in blue and gray. I plan to paint the house gray with blue trim. It is white with blue trim now. I don't want to go dark blue because it would be too hot

 

[TrinityPower]

Here is just one bookcase in my room. It can't been seen well in this picture but next to the bookcase is a seahawks locker filled with items as well

 

[Oldstyle]

What really irritates a couple of losers like yourselves...is that Brady and the Patriots keep on winning no matter how many times people try to derail them. Spygate? That was a laugh. What was their record that year after they were "caught" doing that? Deflategate? What did they do to the Colts and the Seahawks after they were "caught" doing that?

You'll take away draft picks and fine the Patriots millions of dollars and at the end of the day...they'll keep on winning because they have a better owner than you do...they have a better coach then you have...and they have a better quarterback then you do!

UUMMmmm.... The Patriots keep on winning because they play in a soft division. They matched up well against Indy and were certainly fortunate to escape in the Super Bowl from almost certain defeat with a freak play from their rookie DB. 9 times out of ten Seattle scores and wins if the opportunity was the same.

The same could be said about the Seahawks. Except..in the previous SB the Hawks were healthy and totally destroyed the vaunted Broncos. The Patriots have never been head and shoulders better than their SB opponent. They have never stood out like the Montana led 9ers.

Ya...they won...but barely. They could have just as easily lost every SB they played in.

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

 

[TrinityPower]

That is what Carroll and Schneider have been doing. I heard they are going to consider Vick for a backup QB as well

 

[HUGGY]

UUMMmmm.... The Patriots keep on winning because they play in a soft division. They matched up well against Indy and were certainly fortunate to escape in the Super Bowl from almost certain defeat with a freak play from their rookie DB. 9 times out of ten Seattle scores and wins if the opportunity was the same.

The same could be said about the Seahawks. Except..in the previous SB the Hawks were healthy and totally destroyed the vaunted Broncos. The Patriots have never been head and shoulders better than their SB opponent. They have never stood out like the Montana led 9ers.

Ya...they won...but barely. They could have just as easily lost every SB they played in.

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

 

[ChrisL]

UUMMmmm.... The Patriots keep on winning because they play in a soft division. They matched up well against Indy and were certainly fortunate to escape in the Super Bowl from almost certain defeat with a freak play from their rookie DB. 9 times out of ten Seattle scores and wins if the opportunity was the same.

The same could be said about the Seahawks. Except..in the previous SB the Hawks were healthy and totally destroyed the vaunted Broncos. The Patriots have never been head and shoulders better than their SB opponent. They have never stood out like the Montana led 9ers.

Ya...they won...but barely. They could have just as easily lost every SB they played in.

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

The Patriots play well together as a TEAM. They don't usually rely on a few "star" players. I think team play is very important to the Pats and that is why they won't pay as much as other teams for a "star."

Here's hoping the Pats make it back to the SB this coming year!

 

[Oldstyle]

Do you get less credit for "barely" winning? This is the era of the salary cap and free agency, Huggy...an artificial handicap imposed by the NFL to prevent dynasties. The NFL is set up to create parity. Yet in the midst of that parity...one team keeps on winning and that's the Patriots.

And for you to call the play of Malcolm Butler a "freak play" when the Patriots had practiced against that very formation and even though he was a rookie, Butler knew exactly what to do...while you seemingly forget the REAL freak play that got the Seahawks down the field and into scoring position just prior to that...a pass play that was totally broken up by Butler only to have the ball fall onto the body of a receiver lying on his back on the ground! If that "freak play" doesn't happen the Seahawks don't even sniff the end zone at the end of the game.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

 

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That is what Carroll and Schneider have been doing. I heard they are going to consider Vick for a backup QB as well

That would be the man with the smallest hands of any quarterback in the NFL? One that's prone to fumbling in inclement weather? They may "consider" Vick as a backup but I don't think they'll pull the trigger on him for just that reason.

 

[HUGGY]

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Well,..... yes. Not statistically but in the court of public opinion as well as the money that gets wagered on a teams probable success a team that just won the Super Bowl is rated #3 in most 2015 power rankings. The Seahawks that just lost the last Super Bowl are the highest rated #1 in most power rankings and backed by the bettors to win this season's Big Show.

It must be somewhat of an embarrassment to "win" so many games and still not get the respect a champion should deserve.

Winning decisively is better than squeaking one out. You get more respect.

Would you like to explain to me what a #1 preseason ranking is worth at the end of the season? You don't get "diddly" for being the favorite at the start of the season...the only thing that matters is where you end up at the END of the season!

As for what you "get" for winning decisively? I couldn't disagree with you more...some of the Super Bowls that were won decisively occurred the way they did because one team played like shit and the other didn't. Did the Tampa Bay Bucs get more "respect" for beating Oakland badly than the Giants did for winning a squeaker over the Patriots? Oakland SUCKED in that game! They didn't even show up to play. You get "respect" for getting another teams best and still beating them.

Hey!

Anything can happen. Russell Wilson may get murdered by his cheating ex wife. Marshawn Lynch might succumb to an overdose of Skittles. Jimmy Graham could crash his airplane.

I, me, personally like to follow my Hawks because one, I was there from the absolute start and have put up with a lot of pain to get to this point. I like wearing a Seahawk Jacket and knowing my team has the respect of football fans that see it even if they hate the Hawks..

Speculating on how one's team might fare is part of the fun of it. It's more fun when your team is near or at the top. Believe me I've suffered through some lean years and the last three have been a ball.

I don't even mind that much anymore that we lost to the Pats in SB #49. Shit happens. The writing was on the wall. The Hawks were so banged up it was a miracle they even had the personnel to almost pull it off. We were unlucky to have so many of our best players injured and you guys were lucky to face a crippled LOB. Good on you.

Part of what makes Carroll and most of the good Seahawk players winners is that they seldom repeat mistakes that cost them games. I'm certain that THIS season they won't end up limping into the playoffs. The Seahawks will go into this season super deep in the D backfield. They will emerge at the end of the season having protected their D stars. Last season's playoffs and SB left a clear lesson ingrained in the team. It's all about the depth this season baby!

I advise any serious contenders to do the same thing this year. Otherwise the Hawks will crush in the divisionals and NFC Championship games.

I don't care who shows up from the AFC at the end of the season. They had better be prepared for war.

The problem with creating and maintaining depth, Huggy...is that it's only natural for your emerging stars to want to get rewarded with big contracts when they're going to Super Bowls. I think you'd agree with me that the Seahawks were not as deep last year as they were the previous year and a lot of that had to do with them losing key people to free agency after that Super Bowl win. That's an issue that the Patriots have dealt with exceptionally well and one that the jury is still out on Seattle's ability to do the same. The Patriots did not pay Browner and Revis huge money to stay in New England because that isn't what they typically do. If you ask for too much money then the Patriots will likely let you walk. They've done just that over the years with players like Tye Law...Adam Vinniteri...Richard Seymour...Wes Welker...Shane Vereen...and the list goes on and on.

As for "planning" to get through a season with fewer injuries? It's nice to hope for that...but the truth is...nobody knows what's going to happen as far as injuries go. You may get your wish...but it may go totally the opposite. Then it comes down to how well your coaches have prepared your backups.

Most of our best players are locked down with multi-year contracts. Once we get Wagner to sign the Hawks are in great shape as far as last years players go. We only lost Maxwell in the LOB to free agency. He won't be that hard to replace. Once we get Cary Williams schooled up in the LOB way of doing things he might be better than Maxi ever was. Malcom Smith and James Carpenter won't be felt so much as they were both injured most of the last two seasons. The only other loss of note was Max Unger our all pro center who only played in 6 games last year. Again he won't be missed as much as some might think.

All in all the Seahawks are as well stocked this season as they ever have been. But as you noted one never knows what might happen to knock valuable players out of the lineup. It would be hard to have the injury bug visit more than last season. With the nasty taste of the injury ridden playoffs and SB I'm betting that we pull our best players out of games at the earliest opportunities. That is about all the coaches can do.

My point, Huggy...was that Seattle took a huge hit to their depth the year before when they won the Super Bowl. As far as Cary Williams goes? Great college player but one never knows if that translates to the professional level. As for when players get hurt? You could lose a star the first day of training camp doing a routine drill. That's the reality of football. Injuries are the wild card to everyone's season.

Williams has been in the NFL since 2008. He was OK in Philly but tended to over run routes. He will learn a lot in Seattle on how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. The only high pick on the LOB is Thomas. The rest of the LOB had to be coached up to get that good. Even Maxwell was a dog two years ago. It took him a while to get up to near the level of the rest of Seattle's DBs. Browner wasn't all that good either until after getting Seattle coaching. Now being out of the system for a couple of years he can't seem to keep a job.