Palestinians Reject Two State Solution

[Hollie]

Not very accurate since the most recent invaders came from Europe.

I can accept your acknowledgement of the Arab-Moslem invasion.

Your attempt to press your biased and laughably inept version of history with your silly Jew invaders nonsense is timewasting.

 

[Shusha]

No problem at all now that you accept that today's native Christians and Muslims of Palestine, whose ancestors practiced Roman, Judaic and other religions, were colonized by Romans, Arabians, European Crusaders, Turks, British and now European Jews.

Okay, so colonization is legit, in your view. You will no longer make comments or complain about colonization by anyone. Deal?

(And no, the natives were the pre-conquest culture - the Jewish people. Not the Christians nor the Arab Muslims.)

 

[theliq]

They refer to themselves as the "People of Palestine" you moron.

Yeah, if you didn't know this yet, Monti is much more educated therefore much smarter than anyone else on this board. Just wait for him to tell us. Again.

Thanks for the acknowledgement, but when you make absurd assertions, it isn't too difficult to make you look like a fool. Maybe you should read the source material before you respond in the future. So, your false assertion that there were no Palestinians until Arafat has been debunked, once and for all. At least on this forum. God knows the number of sites you parrot the Zionist propaganda on.

You're still befuddled by terms and definitions. "Pal'istanians" as a national identity was an invention of Arafat in the late 1960's.

You are among a few others who seem to believe that your mythical "country of Pal'istan" existed at some time in the past.

You understand that Disneyland (like Pal'istan) is not a country, right?

Moron speaks as MORON IS

 

[theliq]

No problem at all now that you accept that today's native Christians and Muslims of Palestine, whose ancestors practiced Roman, Judaic and other religions, were colonized by Romans, Arabians, European Crusaders, Turks, British and now European Jews.

Okay, so colonization is legit, in your view. You will no longer make comments or complain about colonization by anyone. Deal?

(And no, the natives were the pre-conquest culture - the Jewish people. Not the Christians nor the Arab Muslims.)

NO THEY WERE NOT AT ALL......Check History not some Blind Zionist Synthetico's from the 1880's

 

[theliq]

The Arabs who started calling themselves "Palestinian" a few decades back for political purposes have never wanted a separate state. They could have had one at just about any point in time over the last 70 years if A -- they were an actual, distinct people and B -- actually wanted a state.

The Palestinians were Palestinians when the Zionists called the area Palestine at the first Zionist Conference in Basel at least in the late 1800s.

The Palestinians sought independence as a people and declared such in correspondence with the British Colonial Office in 1921-1922. You are ignorant of the facts.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.



No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.





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HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
Sir,
We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine......Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

So, you think your posting of some article referring to them simply as Arabs as I stated somehow proves they identified as "Palestinian".

I realized you were stupid, Monte, but not THAT stupid.

They refer to themselves as the "People of Palestine" you moron.

Funny, funny, funny! So then if I refer to myself & my family as "people of Palestine", does that make me a Palestinian? Seriously Monte, you are a blast.

Yeah, if you didn't know this yet, Monti is much more educated therefore much smarter than anyone else on this board. Just wait for him to tell us. Again.

Thanks for the acknowledgement, but when you make absurd assertions, it isn't too difficult to make you look like a fool. Maybe you should read the source material before you respond in the future. So, your false assertion that there were no Palestinians until Arafat has been debunked, once and for all. At least on this forum. God knows the number of sites you parrot the Zionist propaganda on.

You're still befuddled by terms and definitions. "Pal'istanians" as a national identity was an invention of Arafat in the late 1960's.

You are among a few others who seem to believe that your mythical "country of Pal'istan" existed at some time in the past.

You understand that Disneyland (like Pal'istan) is not a country, right?

No one takes you seriously. Posting Zionist propaganda debunked long ago and in this forum is why you are not taken seriously. The Palestinian national identify was re-established de facto when the representatives of the Christian and Muslim inhabitants declared themselves representatives of the People of Palestine in correspondence with the British Colonial Office in 1922. Of course, the people inhabiting the Roman province of Palaestina were known as Palaestinorum (Palestinian in Latin) 2,000 years ago as well.

Okay Monte. Lets have some fun. Everyone who takes Monte seriously please identify yourself.

HELLO! ANYBODY HOME?

ME.............Read My Lips or hear this song.....

 

[GLASNOST]

It was thousands of years ago when Ghengis Khan invaded the area called Palestine. None of those kids "look" Chinese / Mongolian.

So once again, you refute your own argument with your cutting and pasting.

"Look"? You are actually giving weight to religious/national identity based on "looks"? You'd have loved Hitler and the Third Reich. Eugenics is right up your alley.

 

[GLASNOST]

The Palestinians are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. They are one people.

True. People of the west (those whose opinion is shaped by disinformation and 'omitted' information) haven't a clue. Some of the foremost Palestinian firebrands are Christians, but good luck trying to teach others to understand that.

 

[theliq]

It was thousands of years ago when Ghengis Khan invaded the area called Palestine. None of those kids "look" Chinese / Mongolian.

So once again, you refute your own argument with your cutting and pasting.

HO,HO,HO......POOR HOLLIE.....DUMB AS A BAT AGAIN(SORRY TO INSULT BATS).....THE MONGOLS NEVER,NEVER EVER INVADED THE AREA WE CALL PALESTINE....BUT THEY DID INVADE PERSIA,CHINA,EUROPE TO ALMOST VIENNA,TURKEY,HUNGARY AND INPARLICULAR,GEORGIA,UKRAINE AND RUSSIA,WHERE THEY FIRST CAME IN CONTACT WITH JEWS....NEARLY ALL OF THE EUROPEANS(and those in America etc) JEWS ECT., HAVE AROUND 2% MINIMUM OF MONGOL DNA.......BUT YOUR SUMMATION THAT PALESTINIANS AND MONGOLS INTERACTED IS PUTTING IT KINDLY COMPLETE BULLSHIT......THE EUROPEAN JEWS DID THOUGH,NOT FORGETTING THAT ALL THE ASKENARSI JEWS/ZIONISTS ARE OF CENTRAL ASIATIC BACKGROUND..themagnificent

 

[Shusha]

NO THEY WERE NOT AT ALL......Check History not some Blind Zionist Synthetico's from the 1880's

Steve, seriously? You are going to argue that the Christians and the Muslims preceded the Jewish people in Holy Land? Come on.

 

[theliq]

NO THEY WERE NOT AT ALL......Check History not some Blind Zionist Synthetico's from the 1880's

Steve, seriously? You are going to argue that the Christians and the Muslims preceded the Jewish people in Holy Land? Come on.

Not at all, but the Canaanites,Moabites were there long before....The Israelites invaded the Holy Land(and again in 1948) and made the Canaanite Capital of Salem their Capital Jerusalem (as they did to the Palestinians last Century)....absorbed the women and children from both peoples into the Tribes of Israel and completely annihilated the men and leaders from both peoples,......How could there be Christians or the Muslims who started in the 600's AD,do you think I'm Thick Or What!!!!!!!!!!Of course not,you know me now only as The Magnificent...LOL

 

[Hollie]

It was thousands of years ago when Ghengis Khan invaded the area called Palestine. None of those kids "look" Chinese / Mongolian.

So once again, you refute your own argument with your cutting and pasting.

"Look"? You are actually giving weight to religious/national identity based on "looks"? You'd have loved Hitler and the Third Reich. Eugenics is right up your alley.

You're a bit slow with reading comprehension skills.

 

[Hollie]

It was thousands of years ago when Ghengis Khan invaded the area called Palestine. None of those kids "look" Chinese / Mongolian.

So once again, you refute your own argument with your cutting and pasting.

HO,HO,HO......POOR HOLLIE.....DUMB AS A BAT AGAIN(SORRY TO INSULT BATS).....THE MONGOLS NEVER,NEVER EVER INVADED THE AREA WE CALL PALESTINE....BUT THEY DID INVADE PERSIA,CHINA,EUROPE TO ALMOST VIENNA,TURKEY,HUNGARY AND INPARLICULAR,GEORGIA,UKRAINE AND RUSSIA,WHERE THEY FIRST CAME IN CONTACT WITH JEWS....NEARLY ALL OF THE EUROPEANS(and those in America etc) JEWS ECT., HAVE AROUND 2% MINIMUM OF MONGOL DNA.......BUT YOUR SUMMATION THAT PALESTINIANS AND MONGOLS INTERACTED IS PUTTING IT KINDLY COMPLETE BULLSHIT......THE EUROPEAN JEWS DID THOUGH,NOT FORGETTING THAT ALL THE ASKENARSI JEWS/ZIONISTS ARE OF CENTRAL ASIATIC BACKGROUND..themagnificent

You need to update your wiki searches.

Did you know the mongols invented punctuation? Really, its true. You can read about it during your wiki search.

 

[GLASNOST]

"Look"? You are actually giving weight to religious/national identity based on "looks"? You'd have loved Hitler and the Third Reich. Eugenics is right up your alley.

You're a bit slow with reading comprehension skills.

If I am, you would have offered an explanation. But you haven't so I am not.

 

[theliq]

It was thousands of years ago when Ghengis Khan invaded the area called Palestine. None of those kids "look" Chinese / Mongolian.

So once again, you refute your own argument with your cutting and pasting.

HO,HO,HO......POOR HOLLIE.....DUMB AS A BAT AGAIN(SORRY TO INSULT BATS).....THE MONGOLS NEVER,NEVER EVER INVADED THE AREA WE CALL PALESTINE....BUT THEY DID INVADE PERSIA,CHINA,EUROPE TO ALMOST VIENNA,TURKEY,HUNGARY AND INPARLICULAR,GEORGIA,UKRAINE AND RUSSIA,WHERE THEY FIRST CAME IN CONTACT WITH JEWS....NEARLY ALL OF THE EUROPEANS(and those in America etc) JEWS ECT., HAVE AROUND 2% MINIMUM OF MONGOL DNA.......BUT YOUR SUMMATION THAT PALESTINIANS AND MONGOLS INTERACTED IS PUTTING IT KINDLY COMPLETE BULLSHIT......THE EUROPEAN JEWS DID THOUGH,NOT FORGETTING THAT ALL THE ASKENARSI JEWS/ZIONISTS ARE OF CENTRAL ASIATIC BACKGROUND..themagnificent

You need to update your wiki searches.

Did you know the mongols invented punctuation? Really, its true. You can read about it during your wiki search.

Thank you very much Hollie....Mongolian script - Wikipedia

 

[theliq]

It was thousands of years ago when Ghengis Khan invaded the area called Palestine. None of those kids "look" Chinese / Mongolian.

So once again, you refute your own argument with your cutting and pasting.

HO,HO,HO......POOR HOLLIE.....DUMB AS A BAT AGAIN(SORRY TO INSULT BATS).....THE MONGOLS NEVER,NEVER EVER INVADED THE AREA WE CALL PALESTINE....BUT THEY DID INVADE PERSIA,CHINA,EUROPE TO ALMOST VIENNA,TURKEY,HUNGARY AND INPARLICULAR,GEORGIA,UKRAINE AND RUSSIA,WHERE THEY FIRST CAME IN CONTACT WITH JEWS....NEARLY ALL OF THE EUROPEANS(and those in America etc) JEWS ECT., HAVE AROUND 2% MINIMUM OF MONGOL DNA.......BUT YOUR SUMMATION THAT PALESTINIANS AND MONGOLS INTERACTED IS PUTTING IT KINDLY COMPLETE BULLSHIT......THE EUROPEAN JEWS DID THOUGH,NOT FORGETTING THAT ALL THE ASKENARSI JEWS/ZIONISTS ARE OF CENTRAL ASIATIC BACKGROUND..themagnificent

You need to update your wiki searches.

Did you know the mongols invented punctuation? Really, its true. You can read about it during your wiki search.

The Mongols are/were fascinating and brilliant,do you know that their postal system was not improved until the invention of the Airplane...true.....Ghengis also used the Chinese for all his administration,had freedom of Religion all and invited many peoples to his Capital in Quaquran......he had the largest Empire,would ask before attacking anyone if they would join him...if they attacked or refused it was then a fight to the death........so encompassing were the Mongols that most people worldwide have some Mongol DNA,.....had he not died when he did,he would have conquered all of Europe and beyond.

Again thanks for the info .....suppose maybe I'm a bit of a BAT tonight 8.40 pm here,again thanks Hollie...steven........I'll get off my knees now, LOL

 

[montelatici]

NO THEY WERE NOT AT ALL......Check History not some Blind Zionist Synthetico's from the 1880's

Steve, seriously? You are going to argue that the Christians and the Muslims preceded the Jewish people in Holy Land? Come on.

Many of the ancestors of the native Christians and Muslims of Palestine practiced Judaism before conversion to the religions of the rulers, as the rulers changed. Why can't you get that simple fact through your thick head. The Zionists were Europeans, very little Middle Eastern about them.

 

[montelatici]

No problem at all now that you accept that today's native Christians and Muslims of Palestine, whose ancestors practiced Roman, Judaic and other religions, were colonized by Romans, Arabians, European Crusaders, Turks, British and now European Jews.

Okay, so colonization is legit, in your view. You will no longer make comments or complain about colonization by anyone. Deal?

(And no, the natives were the pre-conquest culture - the Jewish people. Not the Christians nor the Arab Muslims.)

The natives are, in fact, descendants of the the indigenous people. That they converted to the religion of the changing rulers by law, forcibly or voluntarily does not change the people. The fact is, however, that the European Zionists were European, from another continent.

 

[member]

He insisted that a Greek Orthodox Archbishop was a Muslim. He even started a thread to that effect.

No! Really?

The funny thing is that he keeps trying to deny it, as he did above, and then I post the link to thread he started and his assertion regarding Muslim Archbishops is there in black and white. He is so dimwitted he keeps doing the same thing over and over and expects a different result, i.e. one that doesn't humiliate him. Or is that the definition of insanity?

Here is the link to the thread he started, note that he claims Muslims can't get along with Christians when the article is about a Christian Archbishop being fired by his superior in the Greek Orthodox Church.

Palestinian Archbishop Fired by Greek Orthodox Christians

"The funny thing is that he keeps trying to deny it, as he did above, and then I post the link to thread he started and his assertion regarding Muslim Archbishops is there in black and white. He is so dimwitted he keeps doing the same thing over and over and expects a different result, i.e. one that doesn't humiliate him. Or is that the definition of insanity?"







oh, no, he knows 'how' it's coming across....

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Dumb, dumber and dumbest.

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"Dumb, dumber and dumbest"





Which one am I again...?

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[montelatici]

You were

He insisted that a Greek Orthodox Archbishop was a Muslim. He even started a thread to that effect.

No! Really?

The funny thing is that he keeps trying to deny it, as he did above, and then I post the link to thread he started and his assertion regarding Muslim Archbishops is there in black and white. He is so dimwitted he keeps doing the same thing over and over and expects a different result, i.e. one that doesn't humiliate him. Or is that the definition of insanity?

Here is the link to the thread he started, note that he claims Muslims can't get along with Christians when the article is about a Christian Archbishop being fired by his superior in the Greek Orthodox Church.

Palestinian Archbishop Fired by Greek Orthodox Christians

"The funny thing is that he keeps trying to deny it, as he did above, and then I post the link to thread he started and his assertion regarding Muslim Archbishops is there in black and white. He is so dimwitted he keeps doing the same thing over and over and expects a different result, i.e. one that doesn't humiliate him. Or is that the definition of insanity?"







oh, no, he knows 'how' it's coming across....

​

Dumb, dumber and dumbest.

​

"Dumb, dumber and dumbest"





Which one am I again...?

​

No. 3.

 

[Hossfly]

montelatici, et al,

Let us start by remembering that the fundamental purposes of the UN as an organization is to maintain international peace and security. The UN tries to act in the furtherance of prevention and removal of threats to the peace. This is the very meaning behind Chapter I of the UN Charter with the intent to suppress acts of aggression and the outbreak of hostilities.

Cablegram from the Secretary-General (SG) of the League of Arab States (LAS) to the Secretary-General of the United Nations (1948)

On the occasion of the intervention of Arab States in Palestine to restore law and order and to prevent disturbances prevailing in Palestine from spreading into their territories and to check further bloodshed, I have the honour to request your Excellency to bring following statement before General Assembly and Security Council.​

.......The Arab States recognize that the independence and sovereignty of Palestine which was so far subject to the British Mandate has now, with the termination of the Mandate, become established in fact, and maintain that the lawful inhabitants of Palestine are alone competent and entitled to set up an administration in Palestine for the discharge of all governmental functions without any external interference. ​

Arab League Declaration on the intervention in Palestine, 15 May 1948 | Religion :: Science :: Peace

(COMMENT)

The first dynamic to International Diplomacy at the policy level is the concept for a "Just War." Technically, today, the FIRST USE of armed force by a State in contravention of the Charter I Article 2(4) shall constitute prima facie evidence of an act of aggression.

The excerpt of the Cablegram (To SG - From LAS) is essentially a confession (prima facie evidence) to the act of FIRST USE. Technically, there were at least seven counts. Today, it would be Seven Counts in contravention of Chapter I/UN Charter --- and --- Seven Count in violation of Rome Statue - Article 8 bis Crime of aggression. However, in the 1948 invasion by LAS Armed Forces against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.

• The remarkable thing here is the fact that it must be a State(s) against State(s) - remembering that there was no State of Palestine at that time - AND - that it is an "invasion" OR "attack" against a sovereignty.
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The "Just War" Defense given by the LAS is that:

• Jewish aggression was the proximate cause of Peace and order having been completely upset in Palestine.
• To prevent Jewish Forces from committing excessive (war crimes like) acts upon those peaceful Arabs and villagers of Deer Yasheen, Tiberias, and other places.
• That the sovereignty and independence of the Jewish State was improperly establish and that only the lawful inhabitants of Palestine are alone competent and entitled to set up an administration.
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The underlying opposition against the LAS justification for aggression rests with:

• Chapter I is interpreted to include the concept that no consideration of whatever may be granted to the LAS in the nature of the intervention; whether political, economic, military or otherwise. None may serve as a justification for aggression.
• Chapter VII provides for the Jewish State to initiate defensive actions with Respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace and Acts of Aggression by the FIRST USE of armed force against Israeli declared sovereignty.
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Most Respectfully,
R

You are still shoveling Israeli shit.

Nobody attacked Israel.

Tinmore, when you and your assistant get a break from being on duty monitoring the forum for Hamas, I suggest you buy or rent the movie Cast a Giant Shadow. It is based on a true study.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005S8KR/?tag=usmb-20