Palestinians Reject Two State Solution

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.
Why do these Orthodox Jews declare that they are living under Israeli occupation?


Why do these Arab Christians declare they are being dispossessed by Peaceful Inner Strugglers?


That is by people who Hamas arrests.


Who can argue with Islamic terrorist justice?

Certainly not these folks:


And Nutandyahoo said that Hamas will pay a heavy price. For what? killing his spies?


It was your Hamas heroes who did the killing. Whether the people killed by Hamas -Men in Ski Masks- were spies is anyone's guess. Islamic terrorists aren't real sticklers for due process or evidentiary proceedings. Just hustle the accused to the curbline and blow their brains out.

Can I get an Allahu Akbar brothas' and sistas'?
 
Just a reminder that private land ownership actually has nothing at all to do with sovereignty.
That is true. The homeless man in NYC has the same rights to his country as a farm owner in Iowa. They are both the people of the place. A man who rents an apartment has the same right to country as the man who owns the building.

Israel's propaganda that says that Palestinians have no rights because they did not own land is hogwash. It is just a red herring.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

This is not true and you know it. And it is important to remember that the intent over time becomes muddled. In the early 20th Century --- some Jews made a distinction between a "Jewish State" and that of a "State of Jews."

I've seen this distinction before, but I'm not sure if there is a true difference or a relevance in the distinction.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.
(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indeed, politics.
But they demanded it all on their terms
The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.
The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.
(COMMENT)

While there are always some faction of a sampled population that goes against the grain, I do not think that the predominant world-wide remainder of the Jewish Population had this mind in 1945 thru 1948. I'm not sure you would have the numbers to say that today.

With the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, MalyTreblinka, Trostinets, Sajmište,
Sobibór and Treblinka, and how the Germans through the false color of law, captured, raped, tortured and exterminated Jews by the train cars, --- I'm not sure exactly when you might claim the numbers. But of course, there is this claim that the entire event was a conspiracy, and that the discovery of the camps and the testimony of the survivors is contrived.

Today, your claim makes no difference. While there are 22 Arab League nations that represent 422 Million people, the world-wide number of Jewish people is less than 18 Million.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

This is not true and you know it. And it is important to remember that the intent over time becomes muddled. In the early 20th Century --- some Jews made a distinction between a "Jewish State" and that of a "State of Jews."

I've seen this distinction before, but I'm not sure if there is a true difference or a relevance in the distinction.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.
(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indeed, politics.
But they demanded it all on their terms
The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.
The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.
(COMMENT)

While there are always some faction of a sampled population that goes against the grain, I do not think that the predominant world-wide remainder of the Jewish Population had this mind in 1945 thru 1948. I'm not sure you would have the numbers to say that today.

With the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, MalyTreblinka, Trostinets, Sajmište,
Sobibór and Treblinka, and how the Germans through the false color of law, captured, raped, tortured and exterminated Jews by the train cars, --- I'm not sure exactly when you might claim the numbers. But of course, there is this claim that the entire event was a conspiracy, and that the discovery of the camps and the testimony of the survivors is contrived.

Today, your claim makes no difference. While there are 22 Arab League nations that represent 422 Million people, the world-wide number of Jewish people is less than 18 Million.

Most Respectfully,
R
Uhhh, OK. :confused-84:
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

This is not true and you know it. And it is important to remember that the intent over time becomes muddled. In the early 20th Century --- some Jews made a distinction between a "Jewish State" and that of a "State of Jews."

I've seen this distinction before, but I'm not sure if there is a true difference or a relevance in the distinction.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.
(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indeed, politics.
But they demanded it all on their terms
The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.
The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.
(COMMENT)

While there are always some faction of a sampled population that goes against the grain, I do not think that the predominant world-wide remainder of the Jewish Population had this mind in 1945 thru 1948. I'm not sure you would have the numbers to say that today.

With the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, MalyTreblinka, Trostinets, Sajmište,
Sobibór and Treblinka, and how the Germans through the false color of law, captured, raped, tortured and exterminated Jews by the train cars, --- I'm not sure exactly when you might claim the numbers. But of course, there is this claim that the entire event was a conspiracy, and that the discovery of the camps and the testimony of the survivors is contrived.

Today, your claim makes no difference. While there are 22 Arab League nations that represent 422 Million people, the world-wide number of Jewish people is less than 18 Million.

Most Respectfully,
R

The question is, why did the Muslim and Christian Palestinians have to be punished for crimes committed by Germans?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

This is not true and you know it. And it is important to remember that the intent over time becomes muddled. In the early 20th Century --- some Jews made a distinction between a "Jewish State" and that of a "State of Jews."

I've seen this distinction before, but I'm not sure if there is a true difference or a relevance in the distinction.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.
(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indeed, politics.
But they demanded it all on their terms
The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.
The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.
(COMMENT)

While there are always some faction of a sampled population that goes against the grain, I do not think that the predominant world-wide remainder of the Jewish Population had this mind in 1945 thru 1948. I'm not sure you would have the numbers to say that today.

With the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, MalyTreblinka, Trostinets, Sajmište,
Sobibór and Treblinka, and how the Germans through the false color of law, captured, raped, tortured and exterminated Jews by the train cars, --- I'm not sure exactly when you might claim the numbers. But of course, there is this claim that the entire event was a conspiracy, and that the discovery of the camps and the testimony of the survivors is contrived.

Today, your claim makes no difference. While there are 22 Arab League nations that represent 422 Million people, the world-wide number of Jewish people is less than 18 Million.

Most Respectfully,
R

The question is, why did the Muslim and Christian Palestinians have to be punished for crimes committed by Germans?

The question is, why pose a question when it presupposes an answer?

Why are the Jewish people punished for the crimes committed by Moslems and Christians?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

This is not true and you know it. And it is important to remember that the intent over time becomes muddled. In the early 20th Century --- some Jews made a distinction between a "Jewish State" and that of a "State of Jews."

I've seen this distinction before, but I'm not sure if there is a true difference or a relevance in the distinction.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.
(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indeed, politics.
The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.
The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.
(COMMENT)

While there are always some faction of a sampled population that goes against the grain, I do not think that the predominant world-wide remainder of the Jewish Population had this mind in 1945 thru 1948. I'm not sure you would have the numbers to say that today.

With the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, MalyTreblinka, Trostinets, Sajmište,
Sobibór and Treblinka, and how the Germans through the false color of law, captured, raped, tortured and exterminated Jews by the train cars, --- I'm not sure exactly when you might claim the numbers. But of course, there is this claim that the entire event was a conspiracy, and that the discovery of the camps and the testimony of the survivors is contrived.

Today, your claim makes no difference. While there are 22 Arab League nations that represent 422 Million people, the world-wide number of Jewish people is less than 18 Million.

Most Respectfully,
R

The question is, why did the Muslim and Christian Palestinians have to be punished for crimes committed by Germans?

The question is, why pose a question when it presupposes an answer?

Why are the Jewish people punished for the crimes committed by Moslems and Christians?

I see you are losing it. LOL
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

This is not true and you know it. And it is important to remember that the intent over time becomes muddled. In the early 20th Century --- some Jews made a distinction between a "Jewish State" and that of a "State of Jews."

I've seen this distinction before, but I'm not sure if there is a true difference or a relevance in the distinction.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indeed, politics.
Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.
The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.
(COMMENT)

While there are always some faction of a sampled population that goes against the grain, I do not think that the predominant world-wide remainder of the Jewish Population had this mind in 1945 thru 1948. I'm not sure you would have the numbers to say that today.

With the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bełżec, Chełmno, Majdanek, MalyTreblinka, Trostinets, Sajmište,
Sobibór and Treblinka, and how the Germans through the false color of law, captured, raped, tortured and exterminated Jews by the train cars, --- I'm not sure exactly when you might claim the numbers. But of course, there is this claim that the entire event was a conspiracy, and that the discovery of the camps and the testimony of the survivors is contrived.

Today, your claim makes no difference. While there are 22 Arab League nations that represent 422 Million people, the world-wide number of Jewish people is less than 18 Million.

Most Respectfully,
R

The question is, why did the Muslim and Christian Palestinians have to be punished for crimes committed by Germans?

The question is, why pose a question when it presupposes an answer?

Why are the Jewish people punished for the crimes committed by Moslems and Christians?

I see you are losing it. LOL
I see you are so befuddled, you're left to pointless prattle, LOL.
 
You are so full of shit it is entertaining to watch you wriggle and squirm while typing nonsense.
 
You are so full of shit it is entertaining to watch you wriggle and squirm while typing nonsense.

I have noticed a failure on your part to make any attempt to support your false and naïve claims.

In 2006, the Iranian bought-and-paid-for Hizbollocks crossed Israel's northern border and kidnapped two soldiers, triggering a massive Israeli retaliation.

Hm, let's see now:

§ Syria, an aggressive despotic state allied with Iran:

§ Which tyrannized Lebanon for decades,

§ Which is implacably hostile toward Israel,

§ Which is known to support Hizbollah and other Islamic terror groups,

§ Whose agents of insurrection have been captured inside Iraq,


More to the point, let's also address your ignorant claim about Hezbollah being formed as a "response to the Israeli incursion into southern Lebanon," but here's the reality. The group was actually formed in 1979, three years prior to the incursion, when Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in Iran. It was an effort to duplicate an Iranian-style theocracy in Lebanon that was the motivating force, not Israel's effort to rid southern Lebanon of that viper's nest of PLO thugs.

Hezbollah should be an object lesson to anybody who thinks that appeasing terrorists can work. After the bombing of our Marine barracks in Lebanon, this country made the decision to cut and run. That the Marines were sent there in the first place, against the advice of the Israelis, was a major error. But allowing Syria and Iran, the patron saints of Hizbollocks, to go unpunished was thought by many to have emboldened Osama bin Laden and set the stage for al-Qaeda's subsequent attacks.
 
You are so full of shit it is entertaining to watch you wriggle and squirm while typing nonsense.

I have noticed a failure on your part to make any attempt to support your false and naïve claims.

In 2006, the Iranian bought-and-paid-for Hizbollocks crossed Israel's northern border and kidnapped two soldiers, triggering a massive Israeli retaliation.

Hm, let's see now:

§ Syria, an aggressive despotic state allied with Iran:

§ Which tyrannized Lebanon for decades,

§ Which is implacably hostile toward Israel,

§ Which is known to support Hizbollah and other Islamic terror groups,

§ Whose agents of insurrection have been captured inside Iraq,


More to the point, let's also address your ignorant claim about Hezbollah being formed as a "response to the Israeli incursion into southern Lebanon," but here's the reality. The group was actually formed in 1979, three years prior to the incursion, when Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in Iran. It was an effort to duplicate an Iranian-style theocracy in Lebanon that was the motivating force, not Israel's effort to rid southern Lebanon of that viper's nest of PLO thugs.

Hezbollah should be an object lesson to anybody who thinks that appeasing terrorists can work. After the bombing of our Marine barracks in Lebanon, this country made the decision to cut and run. That the Marines were sent there in the first place, against the advice of the Israelis, was a major error. But allowing Syria and Iran, the patron saints of Hizbollocks, to go unpunished was thought by many to have emboldened Osama bin Laden and set the stage for al-Qaeda's subsequent attacks.


You haven't a clue. Hezbollah would not exist had the Israelis not invaded and occupied Southern Lebanon. It is the attacks on people that create the resistance.

"It emerged with the help of Iran during the Israeli occupation of Lebanon in the early 1980s..."

Profile: Lebanon's Hezbollah movement - BBC News

And, since Osama Bin Ladin considered Shia worse than Jews, the rest of your bullshit just magnifies your ignorance. You are just full shit.
 
So, if someone quoted Electronic Intifada as the source supporting an assertion you would accept it as a neutral source? You are not only a hypocrite, but also a dimwit.
Unlike you, I don't go around calling people ass holes and others names because of the sources they use. As I stated previously, your name calling tells an awful lot about you and not the posters who are the recipients of the names. Meanwhile, look in the mirror to see a hypocrite and dimwit.

Since you obviously are going to park yourself on this forum today, I hope you brought a healthy snack to keep you going.
You have called me worse Hoss,just sayin and I know why.....Because I can never be defeated much like the Palestinians.....you and others just use this type of DROSS because you are trying to deny your guilt......you Plastic Synthetico's......have a Mental Disorder....don't blame Monte,Tinnie,Penny en al for your Disgusting PAST AND FUTURE.....You Guys will NEVER Change,not just because you have been Zionist Brainwashed but moreover You All Have Become BRAIN-DEAD.......your mate steve,and by the way,where's the Beers Hossie,where's the Beers???
 
So, if someone quoted Electronic Intifada as the source supporting an assertion you would accept it as a neutral source? You are not only a hypocrite, but also a dimwit.
Unlike you, I don't go around calling people ass holes and others names because of the sources they use. As I stated previously, your name calling tells an awful lot about you and not the posters who are the recipients of the names. Meanwhile, look in the mirror to see a hypocrite and dimwit.

Since you obviously are going to park yourself on this forum today, I hope you brought a healthy snack to keep you going.
You have called me worse Hoss,just sayin and I know why.....Because I can never be defeated much like the Palestinians.....you and others just use this type of DROSS because you are trying to deny your guilt......you Plastic Synthetico's......have a Mental Disorder....don't blame Monte,Tinnie,Penny en al for your Disgusting PAST AND FUTURE.....You Guys will NEVER Change,not just because you have been Zionist Brainwashed but moreover You All Have Become BRAIN-DEAD.......your mate steve,and by the way,where's the Beers Hossie,where's the Beers???

Take your meds, Steve, and maybe you wouldn't blabber on with your nonsense. BTW, beer doesn't go good with medications so stay sober.
 
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So, if someone quoted Electronic Intifada as the source supporting an assertion you would accept it as a neutral source? You are not only a hypocrite, but also a dimwit.
Unlike you, I don't go around calling people ass holes and others names because of the sources they use. As I stated previously, your name calling tells an awful lot about you and not the posters who are the recipients of the names. Meanwhile, look in the mirror to see a hypocrite and dimwit.

Since you obviously are going to park yourself on this forum today, I hope you brought a healthy snack to keep you going.
You have called me worse Hoss,just sayin and I know why.....Because I can never be defeated much like the Palestinians.....you and others just use this type of DROSS because you are trying to deny your guilt......you Plastic Synthetico's......have a Mental Disorder....don't blame Monte,Tinnie,Penny en al for your Disgusting PAST AND FUTURE.....You Guys will NEVER Change,not just because you have been Zionist Brainwashed but moreover You All Have Become BRAIN-DEAD.......your mate steve,and by the way,where's the Beers Hossie,where's the Beers???

Take your meds, Steve, and maybe you wouldn't blabber on with your nonsense. BTW, beer doesn't go good with medications so stay sober.
"meds" here Hoss are BRAND OF sanitary napkin.......A Jewish(I realised later he must have been a Plastico Zionista) Doctor once gave me some Pills,but I couldn't take em because they were marked "Zionist Brain Pills" and looked and smelt like SHIT.

Enjoyed you post as Usual Hoss,you are one Great man and despite all flaws but I Love you man...Now where is that BEER?????!!!!!!!!steve
 
You are so full of shit it is entertaining to watch you wriggle and squirm while typing nonsense.

I have noticed a failure on your part to make any attempt to support your false and naïve claims.

In 2006, the Iranian bought-and-paid-for Hizbollocks crossed Israel's northern border and kidnapped two soldiers, triggering a massive Israeli retaliation.

Hm, let's see now:

§ Syria, an aggressive despotic state allied with Iran:

§ Which tyrannized Lebanon for decades,

§ Which is implacably hostile toward Israel,

§ Which is known to support Hizbollah and other Islamic terror groups,

§ Whose agents of insurrection have been captured inside Iraq,


More to the point, let's also address your ignorant claim about Hezbollah being formed as a "response to the Israeli incursion into southern Lebanon," but here's the reality. The group was actually formed in 1979, three years prior to the incursion, when Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in Iran. It was an effort to duplicate an Iranian-style theocracy in Lebanon that was the motivating force, not Israel's effort to rid southern Lebanon of that viper's nest of PLO thugs.

Hezbollah should be an object lesson to anybody who thinks that appeasing terrorists can work. After the bombing of our Marine barracks in Lebanon, this country made the decision to cut and run. That the Marines were sent there in the first place, against the advice of the Israelis, was a major error. But allowing Syria and Iran, the patron saints of Hizbollocks, to go unpunished was thought by many to have emboldened Osama bin Laden and set the stage for al-Qaeda's subsequent attacks.


You haven't a clue. Hezbollah would not exist had the Israelis not invaded and occupied Southern Lebanon. It is the attacks on people that create the resistance.

"It emerged with the help of Iran during the Israeli occupation of Lebanon in the early 1980s..."

Profile: Lebanon's Hezbollah movement - BBC News

And, since Osama Bin Ladin considered Shia worse than Jews, the rest of your bullshit just magnifies your ignorance. You are just full shit.

I'm afraid you remain as clueless as ever.

What are Hezbollah's origins?

http://www.cfr.org/lebanon/hezbollah-k-hizbollah-hizbullah/p9155

Hezbollah (or "Party of God") emerged during Lebanon's fifteen-year-long civil war (1975–1990) in the aftermath of Israel's invasion in 1982 and subsequent occupation. Israel aimed to expel Palestinian militants operating in southern Lebanon, but the move galvanized a faction of disenfranchised Shiites to take up arms in support of an Iranian-style clerical regime. In its infancy, the movement obtained critical financial support and training from Iran's Revolutionary Guards. Suicide attacks on the U.S. embassy and Marine Corps barracks in Beirut in October 1983 (258 Americans killed) furthered the group's image as leaders of the Shiite resistance. Just months later, President Ronald Reagan withdrew U.S. Marines who had been deployed to Lebanon as part of a multinational peacekeeping force.
 
Since when are Hollywood movies based on "true studies"? LOL
There have been many movies based on actual events. Don't forget also there were many people alive who took part in this Israeli/Arab War who could tell the scriptwriters what actually happened. Maybe in your neck of the wood you can find some who participated. They might be in their late eighties and nineties by now, but can tell you what happened and that the movie followed the truth. Perhaps you can get away from the computer for a time and watch the movie yourself. By the way, Colonel David "Mickey" Marcus is the only person buried at West Point who fought for a foreign country.

David 'Mickey' Marcus | HistoryNet

I have also watched the movie, "Cast a Giant Shadow". Sure it is somewhat fictionalized, but it is based upon true events. The lead actor, Kirk Douglas, who plays David 'Mickey' Marcus is actually a Jew as well.

But to add credence to Marcus, here is a picture of the memorial that is along the road to Be'er Sheeva in Israel:




Look in the left column, ninth name down.
That's "...loosely based on true events"
 
One of those perceptions was the savagery for witch the Arabs were known.

This image of the Arab is still with use today. Whether we picture them settling bombs off in restaurants, suicide bombers on a crowed beach, kidnapping and murdering teenagers, or sending a laser-guided missile into the side of a school bus, the image that the name of the Arab Palestinians invokes is one of sheer barbarism.

All of which they learned from the Irgun, Lehi, Palmach and Hagana.
 
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