Palestinians Reject Two State Solution

[Hollie]

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Absentee landlords in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon were the largest landowners, not so-called Pal'istanian squatters. Those absentee landowners sold large tracts to The Zionists™

Arab-Moslem squatters you call "Pal'istanians" may have wanted all of the land area for themselves, but, they didn't own the land area and later, refused to take part in, or cooperate, in the processes of the mandate.

How does it feel to want?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.

(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, politics.

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.

The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.

(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, politics.

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.

The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.

"The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.... because I say so"

 

[P F Tinmore]

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Absentee landlords in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon were the largest landowners, not so-called Pal'istanian squatters. Those absentee landowners sold large tracts to The Zionists™

Arab-Moslem squatters you call "Pal'istanians" may have wanted all of the land area for themselves, but, they didn't own the land area and later, refused to take part in, or cooperate, in the processes of the mandate.

How does it feel to want?

The Ottoman Empire had a different land system. It did not match the western model.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.

(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, politics.

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.

The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.

"The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.... because I say so"

Its true.

Look it up.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.

(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, politics.

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.

The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.

[In a deep, booming voice-over] I stand with the people without regard of religion...because I am Tinmoreman.

 

[Hollie]

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Absentee landlords in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon were the largest landowners, not so-called Pal'istanian squatters. Those absentee landowners sold large tracts to The Zionists™

Arab-Moslem squatters you call "Pal'istanians" may have wanted all of the land area for themselves, but, they didn't own the land area and later, refused to take part in, or cooperate, in the processes of the mandate.

How does it feel to want?

The Ottoman Empire had a different land system. It did not match the western model.

Of course, dear. The Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese absentee landowners should have known that decades later, you would be posting on an Internet message board re-writing history and retroactively revising land use laws.

 

[Shusha]

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.

 

[Hollie]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm,

If you put politics aside, there are very few problems among the different religions.

(COMMENT)

I suppose its a matter of perspective:: depending upon if you are holding the sword or the one about to be beheaded.

Most Respectfully,
R

Indeed, politics.

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Not quite. The Arab Palestinians wanted all of Palestine.

The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.

I stand with the people without regard of religion.

"The Palestinian Muslims, Christians, and Jews did not want a Jewish state.... because I say so"

Its true.

Look it up.

I looked it up. I found no indication your "....because I say so" commandment appears in the historical record.

 

[montelatici]

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Absentee landlords in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon were the largest landowners, not so-called Pal'istanian squatters. Those absentee landowners sold large tracts to The Zionists™

Arab-Moslem squatters you call "Pal'istanians" may have wanted all of the land area for themselves, but, they didn't own the land area and later, refused to take part in, or cooperate, in the processes of the mandate.

How does it feel to want?

The Ottoman Empire had a different land system. It did not match the western model.

Of course, dear. The Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese absentee landowners should have known that decades later, you would be posting on an Internet message board re-writing history and retroactively revising land use laws.

Still propagating the Zionist propaganda. But lets' post the facts as per the UN:

 

[Hollie]

But they demanded it all on their terms

The Palestinians wanted all of Palestine?

WOW, how dare they?

Absentee landlords in Egypt, Syria and Lebanon were the largest landowners, not so-called Pal'istanian squatters. Those absentee landowners sold large tracts to The Zionists™

Arab-Moslem squatters you call "Pal'istanians" may have wanted all of the land area for themselves, but, they didn't own the land area and later, refused to take part in, or cooperate, in the processes of the mandate.

How does it feel to want?

The Ottoman Empire had a different land system. It did not match the western model.

Of course, dear. The Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese absentee landowners should have known that decades later, you would be posting on an Internet message board re-writing history and retroactively revising land use laws.

Still propagating the Zionist propaganda. But lets' post the facts as per the UN:

Still cutting and pasting the same debunked cutting and pasting.

You're befuddled as to who controlled the land. The UN did not.

From the official Ottoman land records:
Turkey transfers Ottoman land records to Palestinian Authority

Even before 1917, Jewish and Zionist institutions had purchased large tracts of land in Palestine from absentee landlords, who lived mainly in Syria and Lebanon. These landlords had previously leased their property to local farmers, but were happy to sell it for the right price, without giving a thought to their tenant farmers. Nevertheless, Palestinians view these sales as more legitimate than those that took place during the British occupation that began in 1917.
Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land. Some of this land was later sold or transferred to pre-state Jewish institutions. Other portions belonged to the Muslim waqf (religious trust), and these, according to Islamic law, cannot be sold. However, there was no orderly registration process; ownership was determined primarily using records such as tax payments.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.

Why do these Orthodox Jews declare that they are living under Israeli occupation?

 

[Hollie]

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.

Why do these Orthodox Jews declare that they are living under Israeli occupation?

Why do these Arab Christians declare they are being dispossessed by Peaceful Inner Strugglers?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land.

Indeed, The Ottoman system was more of a land right system than a land ownership system. The people had the right to work land. This right could be bought, sold or inherited. What was called state land was actually communal land that was "owned" by a village. No one person had a deed to that land but there was a collective right to that land. (It is interesting to note the the Venezuela constitution recognizes the communal land of its Indian populations. That guarantees their ownership without the possession of land deeds.)

It was a mix of systems. Trying to fit the land rights system into a land ownership system was like pounding a square peg into a round hole.

BTW, the state lands were ceded to the government of Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.

Why do these Orthodox Jews declare that they are living under Israeli occupation?

Why do these Arab Christians declare they are being dispossessed by Peaceful Inner Strugglers?

That is by people who Hamas arrests.

 

[Hollie]

Under Ottoman rule, a substantial portion of the land in Palestine was registered as state land.

Indeed, The Ottoman system was more of a land right system than a land ownership system. The people had the right to work land. This right could be bought, sold or inherited. What was called state land was actually communal land that was "owned" by a village. No one person had a deed to that land but there was a collective right to that land. (It is interesting to note the the Venezuela constitution recognizes the communal land of its Indian populations. That guarantees their ownership without the possession of land deeds.)

It was a mix of systems. Trying to fit the land rights system into a land ownership system was like pounding a square peg into a round hole.

BTW, the state lands were ceded to the government of Palestine.

Indeed, the so-called Pal'istanians owned very little of the land you claim was stolen by the Zionists™. As the official Ottoman records show, it was foreigners from Egypt, Syria and Lebanon (absentee landowners) who controlled the majority of the land, large tracts of which were purchased by The Zionists™ and by Jews.

Trying to re-write the land ownership system retroactively is like reading a Tinmore post where he tries to re-write history.

 

[Hollie]

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.

Why do these Orthodox Jews declare that they are living under Israeli occupation?

Why do these Arab Christians declare they are being dispossessed by Peaceful Inner Strugglers?

That is by people who Hamas arrests.

Who can argue with Islamic terrorist justice?

Certainly not these folks:

 

[Shusha]

Just a reminder that private land ownership actually has nothing at all to do with sovereignty.

 

[Shusha]

Indeed, The Ottoman system was more of a land right system than a land ownership system. The people had the right to work land. This right could be bought, sold or inherited. What was called state land was actually communal land that was "owned" by a village.

I don't believe this is correct. Miri land could be cultivated and passed down to heirs in perpetuity, but in the absence of heirs or lack of cultivation it reverted to the government. I don't believe that miri land could be sold. Please provide link if I am wrong on this.

Edited to add: Ah. I see I have misread. The right to cultivate the land could be bought and sold. Yes, this is correct. But only with the government's permission.

Still, the land was not "owned" by the village. The right to cultivate the land was. The ownership still rested with the government. The right to cultivate was not a purchase of the land.

BTW, the state lands were ceded to the government of Palestine.

Please support this claim. How and when was state land ceded to the government of Palestine?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish people did not want a Jewish State. Oh please.

Why do these Orthodox Jews declare that they are living under Israeli occupation?

Why do these Arab Christians declare they are being dispossessed by Peaceful Inner Strugglers?

That is by people who Hamas arrests.

Who can argue with Islamic terrorist justice?

Certainly not these folks:

And Nutandyahoo said that Hamas will pay a heavy price. For what? killing his spies?