Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians have never breached a border. Neither did the "five invading armies."

Indeed, the invading muhammedan armies that suffered humiliating losses after crossing the frontier on their Jew killing gee-had?

Indeed, you mean those invading armies?

They never attacked Israel.

BTW, they did not lose either.

Indeed, they attacked Israel and they indeed lost.

Wrong and wrong.

You need to get off of that Israel propaganda crap.

Actually, I'm correct. You need to learn history.

Post a 1948 map of Israel then we can discuss where those 5 armies entered Israel.

An armistice was called by the UN Security Council. Nobody won or lost that war.

I await your duck.

 

[rylah]

Indeed, the invading muhammedan armies that suffered humiliating losses after crossing the frontier on their Jew killing gee-had?

Indeed, you mean those invading armies?

They never attacked Israel.

BTW, they did not lose either.

Indeed, they attacked Israel and they indeed lost.

Wrong and wrong.

You need to get off of that Israel propaganda crap.

Actually, I'm correct. You need to learn history.

Post a 1948 map of Israel then we can discuss where those 5 armies entered Israel.

An armistice was called by the UN Security Council. Nobody won or lost that war.

I await your duck.

The whole of the land under the previous rule of the mandate.
When did Jews ever lose sovereignty over the land?

Israel is the only one who came into agreements with neighbors based on those borders, no one else.
It's same map You claim belongs to Arabs, after they've got a bigger chunk of it in the East Bank.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[P F Tinmore]

They never attacked Israel.

BTW, they did not lose either.

Indeed, they attacked Israel and they indeed lost.

Wrong and wrong.

You need to get off of that Israel propaganda crap.

Actually, I'm correct. You need to learn history.

Post a 1948 map of Israel then we can discuss where those 5 armies entered Israel.

An armistice was called by the UN Security Council. Nobody won or lost that war.

I await your duck.

The whole of the land under the previous rule of the mandate.
When did Jews ever lose sovereignty over the land?

Israel is the only one who came into agreements with neighbors based on those borders, no one else.
It's same map You claim belongs to Arabs, after they've got a bigger chunk of it in the East Bank.

Nice duck.

When did Jews ever gain sovereignty over the land?

 

[Sixties Fan]

The article also notes that Abu Luli closed his Facebook account shortly before the Monday riots.

Mu'tasim may not have been a member of Hamas, but he was just as much a terrorist. He was manipulated by Hamas and other incitement to want to be killed - and he was going to keep going until he got his wish.

The Western media is not going to bother to tell the story of Mu'tasim Abu Lili. But the Arabic media is anxious to. Because they want to encourage more people to act like him.

(full article online)

This Gaza teen specifically planned to be "martyred" ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Al Aqsa Voice quotes Hamas official Dr. Salah Bardawil as saying "50 Hamas martyrs rose [to paradise] during the million man march of return on 14/05/2018."

This sounds pretty damning.

Hopefully some reporters will follow up on this. Oh, sorry - the meme of innocent civilians is already set in stone, and no reporter wants to admit that they were wrong.

That would damage their credibility!

Hamas says there were "50 Hamas martyrs" on Monday ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Notably the BBC – which has completely ignored two previous incidents of large-scale vandalism at the Kerem Shalom crossing during ‘Great Return March’ riots – likewise ignored a third incidenton May 14th and readers of this article were not told that leaflets warning participants to stay away from the border fence were distributed by the IDF before the rioting began.

Readers were told that:

“Israel says the protests are aimed at breaching the border and attacking Israeli communities nearby.”

They were not informed that – as noted above – Hamas says the exact same.

“Hamas’s leader in Gaza said Thursday he hopes to see hundreds of thousands of Palestinians breach the border fence from Gaza into Israel at next week’s protests to coincide with the US embassy’s move to Jerusalem.”

There was however one welcome innovation in this article. As we have recorded over the past few weeks, previous BBC reports have repeatedly failed to clarify to audiences that the casualty figures from “health officials” that they quoted were in fact provided by Hamas. Readers of this latest report found the following:

“The health ministry, run by Hamas, said children were among those killed.” [emphasis added]

(full article online)

BBC News website coverage of May 14 Gaza rioting

 

[Sixties Fan]

As Gaza hospitals suffer shortages, Hamas refuses Israeli medical aid

 

[Sixties Fan]

There are two discernible reasons for the dramatic switch from war to peace of the past 24 hours over in Gaza. First, as was proven in the summer of 2014, the Israeli secret to winning battles with Hamas is by inflicting overwhelming casualties. Hamas has a breaking point, and on Monday it turned out to be 62 dead Gazans and an estimated one to two thousand injured. That was the breaking point for the local medical systems – the point where a frightened and angry populace might turn on its masters. So Hamas suspended the carnage it had so masterfully encouraged only a few hours earlier.

The other reason was the open threat Israel delivered to Hamas through the Egyptian Intelligence, that if the riots persist, Israeli assassination teams will start hunting down the Hamas leadership. Unlike the Hamas promises about taking back Israel, this is not an idle threat.

There’s a third reason, which is that Arabs around the Middle East have stopped caring about the plight of the “Palestinians.” Their emotions have been dulled, and, frankly, for the viewers of Arab television stations who have been bombarded for eight years with daily, often live, media coverage of mass killings and terrible suffering in many of the countries that used to be part of the “Arab Spring” – 62 dead in Gaza, who brought this on themselves in the first place, aren’t so impressive.

(full article online)

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye...for-fear-of-direct-assassinations/2018/05/16/

 

[Hollie]

Indeed, they attacked Israel and they indeed lost.

Wrong and wrong.

You need to get off of that Israel propaganda crap.

Actually, I'm correct. You need to learn history.

Post a 1948 map of Israel then we can discuss where those 5 armies entered Israel.

An armistice was called by the UN Security Council. Nobody won or lost that war.

I await your duck.

The whole of the land under the previous rule of the mandate.
When did Jews ever lose sovereignty over the land?

Israel is the only one who came into agreements with neighbors based on those borders, no one else.
It's same map You claim belongs to Arabs, after they've got a bigger chunk of it in the East Bank.

Nice duck.

When did Jews ever gain sovereignty over the land?

Nice duck. The Jewish state is defending its sovereign territory now in the face of the Islamist gee-had.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wrong and wrong.

You need to get off of that Israel propaganda crap.

Actually, I'm correct. You need to learn history.

Post a 1948 map of Israel then we can discuss where those 5 armies entered Israel.

An armistice was called by the UN Security Council. Nobody won or lost that war.

I await your duck.

The whole of the land under the previous rule of the mandate.
When did Jews ever lose sovereignty over the land?

Israel is the only one who came into agreements with neighbors based on those borders, no one else.
It's same map You claim belongs to Arabs, after they've got a bigger chunk of it in the East Bank.

Nice duck.

When did Jews ever gain sovereignty over the land?

Nice duck. The Jewish state is defending its sovereign territory now in the face of the Islamist gee-had.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, I'm correct. You need to learn history.

Post a 1948 map of Israel then we can discuss where those 5 armies entered Israel.

An armistice was called by the UN Security Council. Nobody won or lost that war.

I await your duck.

The whole of the land under the previous rule of the mandate.
When did Jews ever lose sovereignty over the land?

Israel is the only one who came into agreements with neighbors based on those borders, no one else.
It's same map You claim belongs to Arabs, after they've got a bigger chunk of it in the East Bank.

Nice duck.

When did Jews ever gain sovereignty over the land?

Nice duck. The Jewish state is defending its sovereign territory now in the face of the Islamist gee-had.

Nice duck.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you demonstrate you do not know what sovereignty is...

Nice duck.

When did Jews ever gain sovereignty over the land?

(COMMENT)

WHEN: Israel gained sovereignty WHEN it exercised it's total authority over a territory, to the exclusion of any Arab League nation it borders. The Gazans are demonstrating at the edge of a barrier perimeter that marks the beginning of Israeli territory authority that is beyond Gazan control.

Israel has territorial sovereignty within the boundary it maintains. It need not prove anything to the Arab Palestinians.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

If you listen closely, the voices you will hear are definitely not singing kumbaya.

Still, after 6 weeks, the media has begun to notice a thing or two, interspersed among the required proclamation of peaceful demonstrations.

For example, there is some reporting on the fact that what is happening is not spontaneous and that Hamas is behind it. Not only is Hamas pulling the strings, but some newspapers have pointed out that the terrorist group manipulates Gazans by lying to them and deliberately putting civilians in danger.

The Washington Post has noted how the leaders of the riots deliberately endanger lives:
But the protests appeared to have a more violent edge than in previous weeks. Some young men brought knives and fence cutters. At a gathering point east of Gaza City, organizers urged protesters over loudspeakers to burst through the fence, telling them Israeli soldiers were fleeing their positions, even as they were reinforcing them. [emphasis added]Similarly, The New York Times reported
The atmosphere grew more charged after midday prayers, when more than 1,000 men gathered under a large blue awning. Officials from Hamas and other militant factions addressed the worshipers, urging them into the fray and claiming — falsely, to all appearances — that the fence had been breached and that Palestinians were flooding into Israel. [emphasis added]With all the trouble Hamas is going through, they are very determined. When Israel tried to impede the riots by warning bus companies in Gaza not to bring people to the border, Hamas threatened to imprison the drivers - leaving them no choice.

Similarly, in order to encourage the largest possible of participants in what was supposed to be the last day of the riots, Hamas declared a general strike and even UNRWA complied and closed down.

Just as the media has begrudgingly mentioned the hand of Hamas in encouraging the riots, journalists have been a bit more forthcoming -- even if they cannot quite bring themselves to admit to the weapons that are being brought and used:

(full article online)

Lies, Damn Lies and The Gaza Riots (Daled Amos) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

Gazans fire at troops, IDF destroys Hamas posts in fresh clash

 

[Sixties Fan]

Six houses in Sderot were struck by machine gun fire from the Gaza Strip Wednesday.

The Sderot Municipality stated that "a short while ago, IDF aircraft were fired at. Bullets hit a number of houses in Sderot. There were no casualties but the houses were damaged. The municipality workers are on the scene to provide an initial response together with the security and rescue forces."

(full article online)

6 houses in Sderot hit by machine gun fire

 

[Indeependent]

Six houses in Sderot were struck by machine gun fire from the Gaza Strip Wednesday.

The Sderot Municipality stated that "a short while ago, IDF aircraft were fired at. Bullets hit a number of houses in Sderot. There were no casualties but the houses were damaged. The municipality workers are on the scene to provide an initial response together with the security and rescue forces."

(full article online)

6 houses in Sderot hit by machine gun fire

Time to shut off Gaza’s electricity.

 

[Hollie]

The "Peaceful Tire Burning Riots" are anything but. Hamas has little choice but to acknowledge the fact that their terrorists have been selectively culled by IDF snipers.

The language above is specific. My take away from the Hamas announcement speaks to the remarkable ability of the IDF to identify selected islamic terrorists as targets and to deliver a very generous "Islamic Terrorist Early Retirement Package".



Hamas leader says 50 Gazans killed were members of group
4hr ago
Hamas leader says 50 Gazans killed were members of group

A Hamas official says in an interview that 50 of the Gazans killed in Monday’s clashes with Israeli troops were members of the terror group.

Salah Bardawil says of the “62 people martyred, 50 were Hamas.” Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry earlier reported 60 Gazans were killed in the clashes.

 

[Hollie]

Six houses in Sderot were struck by machine gun fire from the Gaza Strip Wednesday.

The Sderot Municipality stated that "a short while ago, IDF aircraft were fired at. Bullets hit a number of houses in Sderot. There were no casualties but the houses were damaged. The municipality workers are on the scene to provide an initial response together with the security and rescue forces."

(full article online)

6 houses in Sderot hit by machine gun fire

Time to shut off Gaza’s electricity.

Call in a carrier from Norfolk. Drag Gaza into the sea and wash out the rabble. Somebody cue-up Billy Joel.

US carrriers clean even those hard to reach places.

 

[Shusha]

The Palestinians have never breached a border. Neither did the "five invading armies."

Just word games. Technically correct on the first one since the "border" between Israel and Gaza is not technically a border, but it is a treaty boundary. The second one is just plain wrong. The "five invading armies" did cross international borders and two of them took control of territory which did not belong to them (outside the international borders demarcating the territory under their sovereignty). Yeah, yeah, I know you are going to argue that they were "invited" and that the sovereign willingly ceded territory to them or some such thing. Word games.