Palestinians: 10,000 years ago, since Abraham or since the Mandate for Palestine?

[MartyNYC]

The Akkadians were Arabs... they preceded the Jews by a thousand years. Are you familiar with the scope of the Akkadian Empire?

No. Renowned scholar Bernard Lewis, author of “Arabs In History” “In recent years a new doctrine has been developed in Arab countries. Arab historiography has extended the Arab identity to all or nearly all Semitic peoples.”

 

[P F Tinmore]

Historian James Parkes: “Through the centuries, the region called Palestine became a national home for the Jews, and for no other definable people.”

The Jews were not the first people there nor were they ever the only people there. There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

 

[MartyNYC]

The Jews were not the first people there nor were they ever the only people there. There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

Israelites, ancestors of Jews, were Canaanites, among the first people in the region. League of Nations, and both Houses of the US Congress, recognized Jews’ ancient homeland when they authorized the reestablishment of the Jewish National Home. Suck it up!

Historian James Parkes: “Through the centuries, the region called Palestine became a national home for the Jews, and for no other definable people.”

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israelites, ancestors of Jews, were Canaanites, among the first people in the region. League of Nations, and both Houses of the US Congress, recognized Jews’ ancient homeland when they authorized the reestablishment of the Jewish National Home. Suck it up!

Historian James Parkes: “Through the centuries, the region called Palestine became a national home for the Jews, and for no other definable people.”


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Is deflection all you got?

 

[MartyNYC]

Is deflection all you got?

You’ve been maniacally posting entirely about Israel since 2009–What a waste of your pathetic life. Meanwhile, in that time, Israel has become stronger than ever forming diplomatic and trade relations with key Arab countries, as Arab countries defund Pestilinians by 90%. Israel is the future of the world!

United Arab Emirates seeks $1 Trillion is economic activity with Israel

UAE seeks $1 trillion in economic activity with Israel by 2031

The United Arab Emirates aims to raise the value of economic activity with Israel to more than $1 trillion in the next 10 years, hoping to work together on everything from healthcare to climate change and energy, the UAE economy minister said.

www.reuters.com

“Business leaders across Israel, Bahrain and United Arab Emirates greet record year of deals. From oil to tourism to cutting-edge technologies the countries are benefiting from an economic dividend following normalization.”
Abraham Accords: A year of business ties between UAE, Israel, Bahrain, experts

Wave of Muslim tourists to Israel
Israel prepares for wave of Muslim tourists

Editor of Arab Times encourages relations with Israel: “Peace with this most advanced country is the right thing to do. Let the foolish fend for themselves.”
Normalize, let insulters fend for themselves - ARAB TIMES - KUWAIT NEWS

Saudi investor is the largest shareholder in an Israeli mobility intelligence company. “We like the innovation and technology culture of Israel,” said Muhammad Asif Seemab…
Saudi Family Office Builds Largest Stake in Israel’s Otonomo

 

[Lisa558]

The Jews were not the first people there nor were they ever the only people there. There is no historic precedent for an exclusive Jewish state.

It’s a national homeland for the Jewish people, but it isn’t exclusively Jewish. About 20% or so are Israeli Muslims.

 

[surada]

Historian James Parkes: “Through the centuries, the region called Palestine became a national home for the Jews, and for no other definable people.”

Arabs are definable. They speak Arabic and share Arab culture. Hebrew was nearly a dead language until 1948. That's why the Jewish immigrants set up language schools.

 

[Lisa558]

You’ve been maniacally posting entirely about Israel since 2009–What a waste of your pathetic life. Meanwhile, in that time, Israel has become stronger than ever forming diplomatic and trade relations with key Arab countries, as Arab countries defund Pestilinians by 90%. Israel is the future of the world!

United Arab Emirates seeks $1 Trillion is economic activity with Israel

UAE seeks $1 trillion in economic activity with Israel by 2031

The United Arab Emirates aims to raise the value of economic activity with Israel to more than $1 trillion in the next 10 years, hoping to work together on everything from healthcare to climate change and energy, the UAE economy minister said.

www.reuters.com

“Business leaders across Israel, Bahrain and United Arab Emirates greet record year of deals. From oil to tourism to cutting-edge technologies the countries are benefiting from an economic dividend following normalization.”
Abraham Accords: A year of business ties between UAE, Israel, Bahrain, experts

Wave of Muslim tourists to Israel
Israel prepares for wave of Muslim tourists

Editor of Arab Times encourages relations with Israel: “Peace with this most advanced country is the right thing to do. Let the foolish fend for themselves.”
Normalize, let insulters fend for themselves - ARAB TIMES - KUWAIT NEWS

Saudi investor is the largest shareholder in an Israeli mobility intelligence company. “We like the innovation and technology culture of Israel,” said Muhammad Asif Seemab…
Saudi Family Office Builds Largest Stake in Israel’s Otonomo

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Tinmore is panicked over the normalizing relations between Israel and the moderate Arab states. How will he be able to demonize Israel if (rational) Muslims have diplomatic ties? More importantly, how will Palestinians and other antisemites falsely claim that Israel is a terrorist state when all these Arab countries have recognized it as a decent country and do business with it?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Arabs are definable. They speak Arabic and share Arab culture. Hebrew was nearly a dead language until 1948. That's why the Jewish immigrants set up language schools.

Where do you learn so much nonsense to come and TEACH Jews what is what about their history.

Stick to digging for Palestinians, not Arabs, 10,000 years ago, or during the time of Abraham. That is what the thread is about.

 

[Lisa558]

Arabs are definable. They speak Arabic and share Arab culture. Hebrew was nearly a dead language until 1948. That's why the Jewish immigrants set up language schools.

Hebrew was declared the national language of Israel in 1922, but nobody spoke it?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Hebrew was declared the national language of Israel in 1922, but nobody spoke it?

Discuss the topic of the thread only.

Where were the Palestinians 10,000 years ago OR during Abraham's time.

Todah.

 

[Lisa558]

Discuss the topic of the thread only.

Where were the Palestinians 10,000 years ago OR during Abraham's time.

Todah.

Bevakasha.

I was responding to Surada.

As far as the topic, there definitely were inhabitants in Israel 10,000 years ago, but I wouldn’t know how to classify them. They certainly weren’t Muslims!

 

[Lisa558]

Can't be 10k years ago because according to the Jews the planet is only 5,780 years old

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24135821

The vast majority of Jews don’t think that.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Bevakasha.

I was responding to Surada.

As far as the topic, there definitely were inhabitants in Israel 10,000 years ago, but I wouldn’t know how to classify them. They certainly weren’t Muslims!

I started this thread exactly because Surada kept insisting in all other threads to repeat the lie recently started by Abbas that Palestinians had been in Canaan for the past 10,000 years. Then she would change it to the time of Abraham.

As you can well see from all the post on this thread, she cannot - not will she ever- find any proof that PALESTINIANS lived in Canaan 10,000 years ago, nor 4000 years ago.

There is nothing else to discuss with Surada on the issue. She knows she is telling lies in order to give "Palestinians" credit as the indigenous people of Canaan INSTEAD of the Jewish People.


BTW, Anyone can respond to anyone else's posts.


Am Israel Chai.

 

[Lisa558]

I started this thread exactly because Surada kept insisting in all other threads to repeat the lie recently started by Abbas that Palestinians had been in Canaan for the past 10,000 years. Then she would change it to the time of Abraham.

As you can well see from all the post on this thread, she cannot - not will she ever- find any proof that PALESTINIANS lived in Canaan 10,000 years ago, nor 4000 years ago.

There is nothing else to discuss with Surada on the issue. She knows she is telling lies in order to give "Palestinians" credit as the indigenous people of Canaan INSTEAD of the Jewish People.


BTW, Anyone can respond to anyone else's posts.


Am Israel Chai.

Yes, Surada has a very strong anti-Israel bias which does not allow her to see the situation objectively.

To restate what we both have said, there is no question that there were inhabitants in Israel 10,000 years ago, but that doesn’t mean they were Palestinians. Weak attempt by Surada.

 

[MartyNYC]

Arabs are definable. They speak Arabic and share Arab culture. Hebrew was nearly a dead language until 1948. That's why the Jewish immigrants set up language schools.

”Palestine” has never been a national home of Arabs. The Arabian peninsula is home of the Arab nation. Old Arab adage: “Yemen is the womb of the Arabs.”

 

[MartyNYC]

Tinmore is panicked over the normalizing relations between Israel and the moderate Arab states. How will he be able to demonize Israel if (rational) Muslims have diplomatic ties? More importantly, how will Palestinians and other antisemites falsely claim that Israel is a terrorist state when all these Arab countries have recognized it as a decent country and do business with it?

He’s obviously psychologically unwell. Obsessively posting about Israel on a messageboard since 2009 is sick.

The fact is early Zionists PURCHASED massive tracts of land from ARABS eager to unload their otherwise worthless land that they obtained from MUSLIM TURKS during the Ottoman Empire when they transferred the land during Tanzimat land reform in order to maximize tax revenue. The Fellahin peasants populating the area were not land owners. Jews who have had ties to their ancestral homeland spanning thousands of years actually purchased back their own land—No other people in history have purchased back their own land.

King Abdullah of Jordan: “It is made quite clear to all that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land (to Jews) as they are in useless wailing and weeping.” (“My Memoirs Completed,” 1978, pg. 98)
My Memoirs Completed

 

[Lisa558]

He’s obviously psychologically unwell. Obsessively posting about Israel on a messageboard since 2009 is sick.

The fact is early Zionists PURCHASED massive tracts of land from ARABS eager to unload their otherwise worthless land that they obtained from MUSLIM TURKS during the Ottoman Empire when they transferred the land during Tanzimat land reform in order to maximize tax revenue. The Fellahin peasants populating the area were not land owners. Jews who have had ties to their ancestral homeland spanning thousands of years actually purchased back their own land—No other people in history have purchased back their own land.

King Abdullah of Jordan: “It is made quite clear to all that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land (to Jews) as they are in useless wailing and weeping.” (“My Memoirs Completed,” 1978, pg. 98)
My Memoirs Completed

All true. And the Jews did more than merely pay for their land - they overpaid.

How much did the Arabs pay the 800,000 Jews for THEIR land throughout the Middle East when they drove them from their homes? Answer: ZIP.

 

[MartyNYC]

Tinmore is panicked over the normalizing relations between Israel and the moderate Arab states. How will he be able to demonize Israel if (rational) Muslims have diplomatic ties? More importantly, how will Palestinians and other antisemites falsely claim that Israel is a terrorist state when all these Arab countries have recognized it as a decent country and do business with it?

Arab leaders to Pallies: Bye Bye! “Arab states are no longer willing to wait for the Palestinians, particularly because they doubt the Palestinian leadership is capable of doing anything to help resolve the conflict.“

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3582492-a-path-to-peace-from-bidens-trip-how-the-arab-state-can-help/…

 

[P F Tinmore]

Arab leaders to Pallies: Bye Bye! “Arab states are no longer willing to wait for the Palestinians, particularly because they doubt the Palestinian leadership is capable of doing anything to help resolve the conflict.“

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3582492-a-path-to-peace-from-bidens-trip-how-the-arab-state-can-help/…

Pfffft, irrelevant.