'Palestinian'

[ForeverYoung436]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

You can't be a hypocrite and talk out of both sides of your mouth. (I mean, you can do that but it's not right to do.) If Arabs can migrate to the Holy Land from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt, then Jews can also migrate there from Russia, Poland and Yemen.

 

[rylah]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

Does that mean Jews have no rights to self determination in that land?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

You can't be a hypocrite and talk out of both sides of your mouth. (I mean, you can do that but it's not right to do.) If Arabs can migrate to the Holy Land from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt, then Jews can also migrate there from Russia, Poland and Yemen.

Not to kick out the people who already live there and park your fat ass on their land.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

Does that mean Jews have no rights to self determination in that land?

Nobody has the right to violate the rights of others.

 

[rylah]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

Does that mean Jews have no rights to self determination in that land?

Nobody has the right to violate the rights of others.

This is childish, what are governments and police for?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

Does that mean Jews have no rights to self determination in that land?

Nobody has the right to violate the rights of others.

This is childish, what are governments and police for?

To protect the 1%?

Nice deflection though.

 

[rylah]

The poster child of Palestine - Ahed Tamimi

The tribe of Banu Tamim (Arabic: بـنـو تـمـيـم‎‎) or Bani Tamim (Arabic: بـني تـمـيـم‎‎) is one of the main tribes of Arabia.

Today, descendants from the tribe live in the Arabian Peninsula and neighboring countries such as Saudi

Arabia, Egypt,[1][2]Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Syria, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, Bahrain, Morocco, United Arab Emirates, Iran, Lebanon and Palestine.


Dynasties

• 
  
  
  • The Aghlabid dynasty
  • The Al Thani, ruling family of Qatar. (See House of Thani)
  • The Al ash-Sheikh family of the Grand Muftis of the Emirate of Diriyah, then the Emirate of Najd and now modern day Saudi Arabia (Religious Dynasty).

My family is from England, Scotland, and Germany. Does that mean I am not American?

Does that mean Jews have no rights to self determination in that land?

Nobody has the right to violate the rights of others.

This is childish, what are governments and police for?

To protect the 1%?

Nice deflection though.

Tell that to Yazidis, Kurds and other minorities throughout the Arab world.

 

[rylah]

pft Timore, are You saying

Saudi Emirs have a right to self determination in Palestine, al-Masris and al-Maghrebis have the right, Bosnians and Bedouins all deserve it too...but not the Jews?

 

[montelatici]

The only people that had the legal right to self determination in Palestine, pursuant to the LoN, were the inhabitants of Palestine at the time of signing of the LoN. The inhabitants of Palestine practiced different religions at the time, Judaism included. People that practiced these religions that were not inhabitants, did not have the right to self-determination in Palestine. It's really quite simple, the LoN did not envision the colonization of Palestine by Europeans, for example.

 

[rylah]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

 

[Challenger]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

Zionists were pursuing a nationalist colonialst agenda disguised as a persuit of "self-determination" for a religious group composed of varying European ethnicities with only a very tenuous link to Palestine, based on their book of fables.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

Zionists were pursuing a nationalist colonialst agenda disguised as a persuit of "self-determination" for a religious group composed of varying European ethnicities with only a very tenuous link to Palestine, based on their book of fables.

The Zionists called it colonialism until colonialism got a bad name then they changed their shtick to self determination.

 

[Hollie]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

Zionists were pursuing a nationalist colonialst agenda disguised as a persuit of "self-determination" for a religious group composed of varying European ethnicities with only a very tenuous link to Palestine, based on their book of fables.

The Zionists called it colonialism until colonialism got a bad name then they changed their shtick to self determination.

The Arabs-Moslems called their conquest a holy Mandate to subjugate the kuffar, and still do.

 

[Challenger]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

Zionists were pursuing a nationalist colonialst agenda disguised as a persuit of "self-determination" for a religious group composed of varying European ethnicities with only a very tenuous link to Palestine, based on their book of fables.

The Zionists called it colonialism until colonialism got a bad name then they changed their shtick to self determination.

True.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The only people that had the legal right to self determination in Palestine, pursuant to the LoN, were the inhabitants of Palestine at the time of signing of the LoN. The inhabitants of Palestine practiced different religions at the time, Judaism included. People that practiced these religions that were not inhabitants, did not have the right to self-determination in Palestine. It's really quite simple, the LoN did not envision the colonization of Palestine by Europeans, for example.

You haven't been keeping up with the discussion on this thread. rylah brought all kinds of proofs and links to prove that the Arabs of Palestine came from different Arab tribes from Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, etc. All the proof was so overwhelming that Tinmore claimed that he was an American despite the fact that his grandparents came from Scotland and Germany; therefore Palestinians whose grandparents came from Egypt are still Palestinians. I then called Tinmore a hypocrite and asked why then can't my cousins, whose grandparents came from Poland after WW2, not be called Israelis? Then you come along and say that the Palestinians are direct descendants from the Canaanites of long ago. Tinmore had already conceded, by that point, that the Arabs of Palestine came from all over Arabia and the Middle East. Try to keep up!

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

Zionists were pursuing a nationalist colonialst agenda disguised as a persuit of "self-determination" for a religious group composed of varying European ethnicities with only a very tenuous link to Palestine, based on their book of fables.

The link is very intense, not "tenuous." And when you say "book of fables" what are you talking about? If you're talking about the Garden of Eden, the Flood or the Tower of Babel, then that's a matter of debate between believers and unbelievers. If you're saying that there was no Kingdom of Judea that was defeated by the Romans in 70 CE, then you're out of your mind, as history contradicts you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The only people that had the legal right to self determination in Palestine, pursuant to the LoN, were the inhabitants of Palestine at the time of signing of the LoN. The inhabitants of Palestine practiced different religions at the time, Judaism included. People that practiced these religions that were not inhabitants, did not have the right to self-determination in Palestine. It's really quite simple, the LoN did not envision the colonization of Palestine by Europeans, for example.

You haven't been keeping up with the discussion on this thread. rylah brought all kinds of proofs and links to prove that the Arabs of Palestine came from different Arab tribes from Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, etc. All the proof was so overwhelming that Tinmore claimed that he was an American despite the fact that his grandparents came from Scotland and Germany; therefore Palestinians whose grandparents came from Egypt are still Palestinians. I then called Tinmore a hypocrite and asked why then can't my cousins, whose grandparents came from Poland after WW2, not be called Israelis? Then you come along and say that the Palestinians are direct descendants from the Canaanites of long ago. Tinmore had already conceded, by that point, that the Arabs of Palestine came from all over Arabia and the Middle East. Try to keep up!

You are obviously confused. That is no surprise because Israel does it best to keep people confused.

One of the core principles of international law is that the people are "married" to the land. The land cannot be taken from the people and the people cannot be taken from the land. They are the people of the place. Race, religion, color, or national origin are irrelevant. They are all the people of that place.

Immigration is the act of moving to a place to become a part of that place, to live among the people as one of those people.

Zionist colonialism was not immigration. There was no intent of being Palestinian or living with the existing population. The intent was to live separate from, and eventually in place of, the existing population. This is illegal on many fronts.

 

[Hollie]

The only people that had the legal right to self determination in Palestine, pursuant to the LoN, were the inhabitants of Palestine at the time of signing of the LoN. The inhabitants of Palestine practiced different religions at the time, Judaism included. People that practiced these religions that were not inhabitants, did not have the right to self-determination in Palestine. It's really quite simple, the LoN did not envision the colonization of Palestine by Europeans, for example.

You haven't been keeping up with the discussion on this thread. rylah brought all kinds of proofs and links to prove that the Arabs of Palestine came from different Arab tribes from Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, etc. All the proof was so overwhelming that Tinmore claimed that he was an American despite the fact that his grandparents came from Scotland and Germany; therefore Palestinians whose grandparents came from Egypt are still Palestinians. I then called Tinmore a hypocrite and asked why then can't my cousins, whose grandparents came from Poland after WW2, not be called Israelis? Then you come along and say that the Palestinians are direct descendants from the Canaanites of long ago. Tinmore had already conceded, by that point, that the Arabs of Palestine came from all over Arabia and the Middle East. Try to keep up!

You are obviously confused. That is no surprise because Israel does it best to keep people confused.

One of the core principles of international law is that the people are "married" to the land. The land cannot be taken from the people and the people cannot be taken from the land. They are the people of the place. Race, religion, color, or national origin are irrelevant. They are all the people of that place.

Immigration is the act of moving to a place to become a part of that place, to live among the people as one of those people.

Zionist colonialism was not immigration. There was no intent of being Palestinian or living with the existing population. The intent was to live separate from, and eventually in place of, the existing population. This is illegal on many fronts.

The above describes the Islamist conquest and colonization of the area.

 

[rylah]

The only people that had the legal right to self determination in Palestine, pursuant to the LoN, were the inhabitants of Palestine at the time of signing of the LoN. The inhabitants of Palestine practiced different religions at the time, Judaism included. People that practiced these religions that were not inhabitants, did not have the right to self-determination in Palestine. It's really quite simple, the LoN did not envision the colonization of Palestine by Europeans, for example.

You haven't been keeping up with the discussion on this thread. rylah brought all kinds of proofs and links to prove that the Arabs of Palestine came from different Arab tribes from Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, etc. All the proof was so overwhelming that Tinmore claimed that he was an American despite the fact that his grandparents came from Scotland and Germany; therefore Palestinians whose grandparents came from Egypt are still Palestinians. I then called Tinmore a hypocrite and asked why then can't my cousins, whose grandparents came from Poland after WW2, not be called Israelis? Then you come along and say that the Palestinians are direct descendants from the Canaanites of long ago. Tinmore had already conceded, by that point, that the Arabs of Palestine came from all over Arabia and the Middle East. Try to keep up!

You are obviously confused. That is no surprise because Israel does it best to keep people confused.

One of the core principles of international law is that the people are "married" to the land. The land cannot be taken from the people and the people cannot be taken from the land. They are the people of the place. Race, religion, color, or national origin are irrelevant. They are all the people of that place.

Immigration is the act of moving to a place to become a part of that place, to live among the people as one of those people.

Zionist colonialism was not immigration. There was no intent of being Palestinian or living with the existing population. The intent was to live separate from, and eventually in place of, the existing population. This is illegal on many fronts.

You basically described the long struggle of the Jews in that land.
They remained as the people of the place for thousands of years, kept the culture of the place, religion, and close connection to their holiest places in that land.

The Arabs represented the domination of foreign people and their culture. There was no Palestinian nationalism but Arab nationalism first, and it was to continue the domination over a variety of different nations in the ME. There was the domination of the Arab culture, not any distinct Palestinian culture. The language was Arabic - not the language of the place.

 

[rylah]

The Arabs in Palestine at the time were still pursuing the the Syrian self determination, Jews were pursuing self determination in Palestine.

Zionists were pursuing a nationalist colonialst agenda disguised as a persuit of "self-determination" for a religious group composed of varying European ethnicities with only a very tenuous link to Palestine, based on their book of fables.

All this disregard for the Jews and their heritage, is because You try to justify the continuation of the Arab colonial agenda. The people You're defending have no heritage or distinct culture connecting them to that land. They identify as Arabs or Syrians first before any territorial question arises. More than that, their culture justifies the Jewish connection to that land, and justifies their resettlement in it.