They never miraculously develop ancestors from the Middle East. They are Europeans and have European ancestors. The descendants of the the Jews of Palestine are the current Muslims and Christians of Palestine.
How is that in every thread You come to Eugenics?
But anyway, let's say Your daughter marries a Mongol, has a child. Then Your grandchild marries another Mongol. And so on with natural variations of life.
Where did the Mongol line disappear? And I haven't even mention the usual ethnic signs... The offspring carries both ancestry, the location of birth is irrelevant.
What are you talking about. A non-Catholic goes through a process of conversion to become a Catholic.
So, a European who had one ancestor 2,000 years who came from the Middle East married a European woman, who subsequently had children that married other Europeans for generations, have more rights to Palestine than descendants of the indigenous people that left Judaism.
What?? What a mess have You done. Ancestry and religion are different things.
We have been over this before.
You Yourself provided the proofs that Jews of any diaspora are the closest to Palestinians, before any other ME community.
Except for the few Jews who have married Arabs willfully, or were forced into marriages or conversion to Islam, the Palestinian Arabs are exactly that. Arabs.
Why should Arabs be the closest to Jews, and not the indigenous Egyptians, Assyrians, and others who have also had contact and a small or higher number of integration for the past 2500 years.
How about the Romans, or the Greeks.
This "Jews and Palestinians" are closely related is nothing but a way to continue to delegitimize and basically wipe out any Jewish vestige as he just did above.
Jews disappeared into converting to Christianity and Islam.
No matter what the proof to the contrary he will continue to try to sell this "saying" of his, because he "knows more than anyone and we will never learn what he knows", something to that effect.
In a few words:
He Knows Nothing
He is into delegitimizing and recruiting more people to attack Israel and the Jews.
Jew hatred makes people like Monte deny that Jews even exist, or if they do they are connected to the "Palestinian Arabs", AND
Theodore Herzl and all other Jews who happened to come from Europe are Europeans. Of course it does not make any other people European if they spent a few centuries in Europe.
ONLY THE JEWS.
AND never mind all the other Jews who make up the Jewish people, from Mesopotamia, Iran, and all over the world.
Monte and CO. zero in on Herzl and all the Jews who came from Europe and returned to their ancient homeland and have decided that they are "Converted Jews" . ALL OF THEM.
Monte does not believe what he tries to sell.
He knows that all he is posting on the threads are lies, which have been debunked several time by several people, by the facts themselves.
Keep repeating what you love to peddle.
Jews are Jews.
If Jews are not Jews, than Arabs are not Arabs, and Palestinian Arabs are most definitely NOT the indigenous people of ancient Canaan, because their ancestors, unlike the Jewish People's ancestors, did not inhabit ancient Canaan until the Muslim invasion of 1400 years ago.
Jews were inhabiting that land long before 1400 years ago. Never stopped inhabiting it, and will continue to inhabit their indigenous Ancient Homeland for perpetuity.
Sure, Monte does not like this facts, and neither do others like him.
But such is life.
L'Echaim
1. Arab is not a racial or ethnic construct, it is the appellation given to people who have adopted Arabic as a language.
2. The Palestinians are predominately the descendants of the indigenous people of the territory. The impact of Arabian DNA was minimal as the Arabians did not transfer a population to Palestine, them came to rule over the native people, much like the Romans and later the Ottomans.
3. People in Palestine that had not already converted to Christianity (and many had already) that practiced many different religions including Roman religions, Judaism, Samaritanism, Mithraism etc., overwhelmingly converted to Christianity after Christianity became the state religion of Rome. This happened all over the Empire, not just in Palestine.
4. No one has denied the existence of Jews. A Jew is anyone that practices Judaism. There are Inuits that practice Judaism, there are Asians that practice Judaism. It's a religion that people of different ethnicites and races practice.
What we are denying is the right that those that practiced Judaism in Europe had, to invade a place on another continent, expropriate the land from the native people of Palestine, expel hundreds of thousands, kill we don't know how many but surely in the tens of thousands and continue to oppress and rule over several million of them to this day.
I see that the facts are driving Mr. Propaganda (60s fan) nuts. Nothing I have stated has been debunked, facts cannot be debunked. You can find Hasbara sources that try to deflect the facts, but that's it.
Ciao, cioa.
<<What we are denying is the right that those that practiced Judaism in Europe had, to invade a place on another continent, expropriate the land from the native people of Palestine, expel hundreds of thousands, kill we don't know how many but surely in the tens of thousands and continue to oppress and rule over several million of them to this day.>>>
Never mind the rest.
YOU ARE SO FULLLLLL OF IT !!!!!!
Returning to one's indigenous homeland is not "Invading", no matter how many times you repeat it.
And Israel did not expel thousands of Arabs before, during and after the 1948 war, as proven by the hundreds of Arab tribes which remained on the land during and after the war.
And Israel does not "Rule" over the people of Gaza or the PA. They
have their own governments and are ruled by those governments.
All those governments have to do and put their weapons down, destroy their charters, and sign a Peace Treaty with Israel as Egypt and Jordan have done.
It is Ramadan.
Israel is under no obligation to allow Muslims to come to the Temple Mount to pray at their Mosques. But it does so every time.
Muslims did not allow Jews access to their Holy Sites for centuries.
Show us proof that the Hashemites allowed Jews access to their holy sites between 1948 and 1967.
Show us that the Hashemites, who have no rights to any lands in TransJordan or Judea and Samaria (being indigenous of Arabia and moved to TransJordan only around WWI when the Said Clan of Yemen made them run) did not murder and/or expel ALL the Jews of Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem in 1948.
Jews who were living there for centuries, even before the Arabs invaded in the 7th Century.
Arabs are not a race or an ethnicity, just as Jews are?
Only a language?
Then there are no British people, only people who speak English?
No Spaniards, Spanish people, only people who speak Spanish.
Sure. If you say so.
What you do need to start 'denying' is the "right" of Muslims to want all Jews to continue to be dhimmis to Muslims, and never, ever be allowed to be sovereign of their own fate.
Or give the Muslims the 'right' to lose and not feel ashamed, that their 'honor' has been compromised and they must reconquer, even if it means killing all, just to have their "Honor" back.
What you do need to start doing is giving Jews (They have been a People Nation for the past 3000 years) the right to their ancient homeland. It is called The Land of Israel, and falls exactly where the whole Mandate for Palestine did in 1920.
That land which got suddenly shrunk by the British when they gave the foreigners Hashemites Arabs 77% of that land.
That land which got even smaller when Israel retreated from Gaza in 2006.
It does not matter if you are an Arab, a Muslim or a Christian.
You do not have the right to tell any Jew that the Land of Israel is not their, that they have 'stolen" that land from any other native people, as they did not steal it from the Jews who were already living there (the only ones who were native to the land).
The Jews have not expelled any 'native' people from the Land of Israel, or kept them under 'occupation', ruling over them.
As you do speak fluent Arabic, you know very well what the Arab leaders say. That there are no Palestinian People.
That the idea of a Palestinian People is being used only to destroy Israel and take the land Israel is on right now.
Deny it if you will. Arabs telling lies?
Not Mohammad, not Husseini, not Arafat, not Abbas, Mashall, or any other Arab leader, Imam, professor, etc.
Arabs do not lie, isn't that right?
