RoccoR
Gold Member
RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Sovereignty (again • again).
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
The Annenberg Foundation is a great reference source of information. But it assumes, in the classroom, that you come to learn, as opposed to shopping for sound-bites that support your preconceived notions.
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Directly to the Questions
"First, the people are involved either directly or through their representatives in the making of a constitution." (Annenberg Foundation Website) This is not true in the many governments of the Middle East. And it is particularly true in the case of the Arab Palestinians governments of Fatah and The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS). While there was a moment in which it might have appeared to have been a Republic (or through their representatives), the sovereignty today, what little their is,
In the argument pushed (by some Arab Palestinian factions) where "Palestine," a State of Palestine based on pre-4 JUNE 1967 border with East Jerusalem as its Capital (prior to the Six Day War), it becomes an International Armed Conflict (IAC)(Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions). An IAC is generally considered as having included wars of national liberation, against colonial domination, alien occupation, and against the right to self-determination. But this is one-country (Palestine) against another country (Israeli). And thus, the State of Israel must be recognized as a country in it's own right. And that would rule-out "colonial domination." The conflict (called by the Arab Palestinians as a national liberation effort) has not ended and so such "Occupation" is a necessary criteria for the control of a hostile government.
Most Respectfully,
R
SUBTOPIC: Sovereignty (again • again).
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
The Annenberg Foundation is a great reference source of information. But it assumes, in the classroom, that you come to learn, as opposed to shopping for sound-bites that support your preconceived notions.
(COMMENT)If the citizens of a country do not have sovereignty, who then? Foreign settlers with guns?
You don't make any sense.
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Directly to the Questions
"First, the people are involved either directly or through their representatives in the making of a constitution." (Annenberg Foundation Website) This is not true in the many governments of the Middle East. And it is particularly true in the case of the Arab Palestinians governments of Fatah and The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS). While there was a moment in which it might have appeared to have been a Republic (or through their representatives), the sovereignty today, what little their is,
Q1: If the citizens of a country do not have sovereignty, who then?
◈ There is no "universally accepted correct answer to this question.
✦ In the case of the Arab Palestinian Gaza Strip, the ultimate authority is HAMAS.
✦ In the case of the Arab Palestinian West Bank, it is Fatah.
Q2: Foreign settlers with guns?
◈ This alternative is a dependent answer. In "YOUR" case, you consider the Israelis to be both a domestic power and a foreign power.
In the argument you push where "Palestine" is set by the post war boundaries (WWI) and the establishment is the Treaty of Lausanne, THEN the conflict (Israeli-Palestinian) is totally domestic, within a single country that you propose is there. (ie "Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.)
Chapter I • Purpose and Principles •• Article 2(7) UN Charter said:Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll.
✦ Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit.
✦ Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit.
In the argument pushed (by some Arab Palestinian factions) where "Palestine," a State of Palestine based on pre-4 JUNE 1967 border with East Jerusalem as its Capital (prior to the Six Day War), it becomes an International Armed Conflict (IAC)(Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions). An IAC is generally considered as having included wars of national liberation, against colonial domination, alien occupation, and against the right to self-determination. But this is one-country (Palestine) against another country (Israeli). And thus, the State of Israel must be recognized as a country in it's own right. And that would rule-out "colonial domination." The conflict (called by the Arab Palestinians as a national liberation effort) has not ended and so such "Occupation" is a necessary criteria for the control of a hostile government.
✦ The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement.
.Most Respectfully,
R
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