Palestinian identity ?

[jillian]

4/5ths of Palestine WAS in Egypt. How much land have they given up? NOTHING.

actually, it was in transjordan.

Well then how much land grab by Israel and how come more Palestinian living in camps, more than total Israel population.

because on one side, Jordan didn't want them and locked them into refugee camps. on the other, the grand mufti of Jerusalem told them to leave Israel rather than share it and promised they would then send the jews into the sea.

that didn't work out so well for them.

even a terrorist supporter should understand that you can't keep waging war and losing and then demand the land you lose. particularly when every time you wage war, you lose more land.

at some point, you're just a loser who refuses to make peace but would rather blow up stuff

 

[José]

Jillian's posts are the perfect summation of the mentality of the american jewish community...

She supports the destruction of America's NON SUPREMACIST white majority through the changes in the country's immigration laws conceived and promoted by her fellow NYC Jew Emmanuel Celler and goes out of her way to justify Israel's SUPREMACIST jewish majority.

 

[montelatici]

Succinct and to the point.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Too much sanity for many people to handle.

 

[American_Jihad]

The Philistines expanded into neighbouring areas and soon came into conflict with the Israelites, a struggle represented by the Samson saga (Judges 13–16) in the Old Testament. With their superior arms and military organization the Philistines were able (c. 1050) to occupy part of the Judaean hill country. They were finally defeated by the Israelite king David (10th century), and thereafter their history was that of individual cities rather than of a people. After the division of Judah and Israel (10th century), the Philistines regained their independence and often engaged in border battles with those kingdoms.

Philistine | people

 

[montelatici]

The Philistines were already in Palestine when the Israelites started their exodus. Your link contradicts the Old Testament.


The Philistines are referred to as the descendants of the Casluchim in Genesis 10:14 and Exodus 13:17. Known as a seafaring nation, the Philistines were a non-Semitic people who left Crete and arrived in Canaan at the beginning of the 12th century B.C.E. The Philistines inhabited the Mediterranean coast of Canaan during the period of the Book of Judges. They founded five principalities - Gaza, Asheklon, Ashdod, Ekron, and Gath.

Their highly-developed weapons brought a great threat to the Israelites. During the Exodus from Egypt, the Israelites purposely took a southern route to circumvent them. The Philistines often battled against the Israelites. The first King of Israel, Saul, temporarily weakened them. Later, a little-known shepherd by the name of David (later second King of Israel) defeated them after his battle with the large Philistine by the name of Goliath. The Philistines were reduced to mainly commercial ventures rather than military ventures. Throughout the Books of Kings, different Jewish leaders fought the nation until the Assyrians completely defeated them. The Philistines then assimilated into the surrounding cultures and ceased to exist as a separate nation.

The name Palestine originates from the Philistine inhabitance of the land of Judea. After the Romans conquered the region in the second century C.E., the Romans used the term Palestinia to refer to the region in an attempt to minimize Jewish attachment to the land. The Arabic use of the term Filastin is from this Latin root.

The Philistines | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[Mindful]

Palestinian flag says it all:

1939 Palestinian Flag. What does it look like? Surprised?

 

[Rehmani]

4/5ths of Palestine WAS in Egypt. How much land have they given up? NOTHING.

actually, it was in transjordan.

Well then how much land grab by Israel and how come more Palestinian living in camps, more than total Israel population.

because on one side, Jordan didn't want them and locked them into refugee camps. on the other, the grand mufti of Jerusalem told them to leave Israel rather than share it and promised they would then send the jews into the sea.

that didn't work out so well for them.

even a terrorist supporter should understand that you can't keep waging war and losing and then demand the land you lose. particularly when every time you wage war, you lose more land.

at some point, you're just a loser who refuses to make peace but would rather blow up stuff

But then tell me how jew would survive if their all neighbors are un happy OR jews don't want to see other than a jew any way, means jew don't want to mix up with others. that is all about this thread is.

 

[Mindful]

4/5ths of Palestine WAS in Egypt. How much land have they given up? NOTHING.

actually, it was in transjordan.

Well then how much land grab by Israel and how come more Palestinian living in camps, more than total Israel population.

because on one side, Jordan didn't want them and locked them into refugee camps. on the other, the grand mufti of Jerusalem told them to leave Israel rather than share it and promised they would then send the jews into the sea.

that didn't work out so well for them.

even a terrorist supporter should understand that you can't keep waging war and losing and then demand the land you lose. particularly when every time you wage war, you lose more land.

at some point, you're just a loser who refuses to make peace but would rather blow up stuff

But then tell me how jew would survive if their all neighbors are un happy OR jews don't want to see other than a jew any way, means jew don't want to mix up with others. that is all about this thread is.

Didn't understand one word of this.

 

[montelatici]

4/5ths of Palestine WAS in Egypt. How much land have they given up? NOTHING.

actually, it was in transjordan.

Well then how much land grab by Israel and how come more Palestinian living in camps, more than total Israel population.

because on one side, Jordan didn't want them and locked them into refugee camps. on the other, the grand mufti of Jerusalem told them to leave Israel rather than share it and promised they would then send the jews into the sea.

that didn't work out so well for them.

even a terrorist supporter should understand that you can't keep waging war and losing and then demand the land you lose. particularly when every time you wage war, you lose more land.

at some point, you're just a loser who refuses to make peace but would rather blow up stuff

Freedom fighters are only terrorists in the eyes of the colonist/oppressive regimes. The Muhajedin were considered freedom fighters when they were fighting the Russians, now that they are fighting the U.S., their sons and grandsons are considered terrorists. So don't give us the bullshit about the Palestinian freedom fighters being terrorists.

The Palestinians are no more terrorists than the ANC were when they were bombing shopping centers in downtown Johannesburg. The ANC lost every engagement with the South African Apartheid State security forces (which had nuclear weapons as Israel has).

They lost more and more land to the whites. But, the constant attacks and war on the whites finally forced the whites to come to the table and agree to majority rule. Violence against an oppressive regime is the only answer. Peaceful resistance against a powerful oppressor gets you nowhere, unfortunately.

 

[jillian]

4/5ths of Palestine WAS in Egypt. How much land have they given up? NOTHING.

actually, it was in transjordan.

Well then how much land grab by Israel and how come more Palestinian living in camps, more than total Israel population.

because on one side, Jordan didn't want them and locked them into refugee camps. on the other, the grand mufti of Jerusalem told them to leave Israel rather than share it and promised they would then send the jews into the sea.

that didn't work out so well for them.

even a terrorist supporter should understand that you can't keep waging war and losing and then demand the land you lose. particularly when every time you wage war, you lose more land.

at some point, you're just a loser who refuses to make peace but would rather blow up stuff

But then tell me how jew would survive if their all neighbors are un happy OR jews don't want to see other than a jew any way, means jew don't want to mix up with others. that is all about this thread is.

Didn't understand one word of this.

because it was nonsense.

 

[American_Jihad]

Why I Am in Israel -- and Why You Should Be
Taking a stand in the battle of good and evil.
November 11, 2015
Dennis Prager

JERUSALEM — I want to explain why I am in Israel.

I am in here with 450 American (and a German and a Canadian) listeners to my radio show. About 400 are non-Jews.

We are here on a "Stand with Israel" tour organized by the syndicator of my radio show, the Salem Radio Network, and I am accompanied by my wife, my producer Allen Estrin and his wife, and my radio colleague Mike Gallagher.

People frustrated with the direction of America and the direction of the world regularly ask: "What can I do to make any difference?"

Here is one of the best answers I know: Visit Israel. And do so especially when there are terror attacks.

If every time there were a spate of attacks on Israel, few people canceled their trips to Israel. Or, if I may imagine a much better world than we live in, tourism to Israel actually increased, three huge things would be achieved.

First, Palestinians would get the message that there are many people outside of Israel who find the stabbings of Israeli Jews morally repulsive.

Second, Palestinians would have to weigh their emotional high from murdering Israelis against the economic benefit Israel would receive in increased tourism.

Third, Israelis would know they are not alone. When I came to Israel to broadcast my show during the worst of the suicide bombings of the Intifada in 2000, Israeli after Israeli would say to me, "Thank you for coming." (You can watch the documentary I made then.)

...

The truth is that a visit to Israel, even in when there are terrorist attacks, is extraordinarily safe. A visitor's chances of getting hurt are minuscule. But to the extent there is the slightest danger — well, we all have to decide how we want to live our lives in the few years we are granted.

And when it comes to fighting for good and against evil, we can either play it safe or we can we do good. Very rarely can we do both.

Why I Am in Israel -- and Why You Should Be

 

[montelatici]

TUESDAY, NOV 10, 2015 03:16 PM EST

“Occupation is root cause of violence”: Jewish-Americans protest at Israel’s Western Wall, call for boycott


Jewish-American activists with the peace organization CODEPINK protested at Israel’s Western Wall (also known as the Kotel or Wailing Wall) on Tuesday morning. They unfurled a banner that read “American Jews support BDS,” referring to Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions, a peaceful global human rights movement called for by Palestinian civil society that seeks to use nonviolent economic means to pressure the Israeli government to end its illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories, grant equal rights to Palestinian citizens, and allow Palestinians who were violently expelled from their ancestral lands to return — as is required by international law.

After five minutes, plain-clothed Israeli authorities confiscated their banner and told them to leave. The activists, Ariel Gold and Ariel Vegosen, were part of a week-long CODEPINK trip to Israel-Palestine, where they witnessed firsthand what life is like for Palestinians living under military occupation.

CODEPINK said that, during its trip, “along with helping Palestinian farmers with their olive harvest, the group witnessed Israel’s apartheid system of different roads, services, and laws for different people. They experienced major restrictions on Palestinian freedom of movement, the massive growth of illegal Jewish-only settlements on Palestinian land, and numerous human rights abuses against Palestinians.”

“At this moment of escalated violence in Palestine and Israel, we are here at the Kotel to pray for an end to the occupation, the root cause of the violence,” Gold and Vergosen explained. “As American Jews we take a stand in support of peace and justice for all people.”

A wave of unrest has recently swept Israel-Palestine. According to the Palestinian Health Ministry, in just over a month, from Oct. 1 to Nov. 8, more than 3,000 Palestinians were injured by Israeli soldiers and/or settlers. 79 Palestinians were killed, including 17 children and four women, along with an Eritrean refugee, who was lynched by an Israeli mob after being confused for a Palestinian militant. In the same time period, eight Israelis were killed.

Addressing the bloodshed, Gold and Vergosen stated in a CODEPINK statement “We know that the root cause of the violence is Israel’s occupation, dispossession, and violence against the Palestinian people and that America’s financial and political support is instrumental in allowing this to continue.”

 

[Hollie]

TUESDAY, NOV 10, 2015 03:16 PM EST

“Occupation is root cause of violence”: Jewish-Americans protest at Israel’s Western Wall, call for boycott


Jewish-American activists with the peace organization CODEPINK protested at Israel’s Western Wall (also known as the Kotel or Wailing Wall) on Tuesday morning. They unfurled a banner that read “American Jews support BDS,” referring to Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions, a peaceful global human rights movement called for by Palestinian civil society that seeks to use nonviolent economic means to pressure the Israeli government to end its illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories, grant equal rights to Palestinian citizens, and allow Palestinians who were violently expelled from their ancestral lands to return — as is required by international law.

After five minutes, plain-clothed Israeli authorities confiscated their banner and told them to leave. The activists, Ariel Gold and Ariel Vegosen, were part of a week-long CODEPINK trip to Israel-Palestine, where they witnessed firsthand what life is like for Palestinians living under military occupation.

CODEPINK said that, during its trip, “along with helping Palestinian farmers with their olive harvest, the group witnessed Israel’s apartheid system of different roads, services, and laws for different people. They experienced major restrictions on Palestinian freedom of movement, the massive growth of illegal Jewish-only settlements on Palestinian land, and numerous human rights abuses against Palestinians.”

“At this moment of escalated violence in Palestine and Israel, we are here at the Kotel to pray for an end to the occupation, the root cause of the violence,” Gold and Vergosen explained. “As American Jews we take a stand in support of peace and justice for all people.”

A wave of unrest has recently swept Israel-Palestine. According to the Palestinian Health Ministry, in just over a month, from Oct. 1 to Nov. 8, more than 3,000 Palestinians were injured by Israeli soldiers and/or settlers. 79 Palestinians were killed, including 17 children and four women, along with an Eritrean refugee, who was lynched by an Israeli mob after being confused for a Palestinian militant. In the same time period, eight Israelis were killed.

Addressing the bloodshed, Gold and Vergosen stated in a CODEPINK statement “We know that the root cause of the violence is Israel’s occupation, dispossession, and violence against the Palestinian people and that America’s financial and political support is instrumental in allowing this to continue.”

Scouring the web, it's possible to find any opinion you want - in your case, cutting and pasting the opinions of others.

The historical facts are that Islamist ideology is uncompromisingly hostile to competing religions, particularly Judaism; the concept of wagf, as explicitly delineated in the Hamas Charter will not allow for anything but the destruction of Israel, and, muhammedan intransigence as a result of islamo- fascism will be a continued source of denial for any islamo-middle East peace.

 

[montelatici]

No scouring needed. It was a news article from 2 days ago. LOL

 

[Hollie]

No scouring needed. It was a news article from 2 days ago. LOL

So you managed to cut and paste an article from two days ago.

Lovely. LOL.

 

[montelatici]

No scouring needed. It was a news article from 2 days ago. LOL

So you managed to cut and paste an article from two days ago.

Lovely. LOL.

Just as your buddy cut and pasted a contemporaneous article. What's your point?

 

[Billo_Really]

The historical facts are that Islamist ideology is uncompromisingly hostile to competing religions, particularly Judaism;

Then why did they get along before the Zionists showed up?

There was no major incidents of violence between Jews and Arabs until the Zionist migration.

The truth is, you're a bunch of ******* assholes and you show it in the way you treat others. Your posts are a perfect example of that.

 

[Hollie]

No scouring needed. It was a news article from 2 days ago. LOL

So you managed to cut and paste an article from two days ago.

Lovely. LOL.

Just as your buddy cut and pasted a contemporaneous article. What's your point?

I just take no issue with pointing out your propensity for promoting islamo-propaganda.

You are the self-created victim of highly edited propaganda, not of an actual discussion of the issues. Dissent and protest are vital components of a free society—true hallmarks of democracy. Obviously, open dissent and access to knowledge is just not something that the muhammedan world is going to embrace.

But those like you, promoting the cause of virulently fascist muhammedans because it suits your politico-religious agenda is immoral, stupid, and dangerous.

 

[montelatici]

No scouring needed. It was a news article from 2 days ago. LOL

So you managed to cut and paste an article from two days ago.

Lovely. LOL.

Just as your buddy cut and pasted a contemporaneous article. What's your point?

I just take no issue with pointing out your propensity for promoting islamo-propaganda.

You are the self-created victim of highly edited propaganda, not of an actual discussion of the issues. Dissent and protest are vital components of a free society—true hallmarks of democracy. Obviously, open dissent and access to knowledge is just not something that the muhammedan world is going to embrace.

But those like you, promoting the cause of virulently fascist muhammedans because it suits your politico-religious agenda is immoral, stupid, and dangerous.

It was from a Jewish site. How can it be "islamo-propaganda" propaganda? Grasping at straws.

At Ancient Jewish Heritage Site, American Jews Spread BDS Message - Israel News