"Palestinian" Arabs Demand Their Welfare Payments

[Hollie]

The fraud of the "Palestinian" Arab welfare system continues.


Palestinians Detail Their Corruption - and Blame Israel

Palestinians Detail Their Corruption - and Blame Israel

A Palestinian Arab researcher wrote in a policy brief published Thursday in Ma'an News Agency that Palestinian corruption is deeply ingrained and has been since before the Palestinian Authority (PA) was even formed - but that Israel is to blame for it.

Tariq Dana, a senior research fellow at Birzeit University, first published the policy brief this week on the site of the NPO Al-Shabaka.

In it, he noted that recent surveys indicate 81% of Arab residents in Judea, Samaria and Gaza believe the PA institutions are rife with corruption.

The above is stating the obvious.

So, once again, immigrant Arab/Moslems in a nonexistent state, with an invented refugee status (complete with their own huge personal UN welfare program) still manage to continue the fraud of "Palestinians" and get what they want through the homicidal terror of jihad. And of course, they couldn't have done it without the support, tacit and overt, of the terror-enabling UN, useful idiots, and media who grant legitimacy to their inveterate hatred of Israel and their murder of Israelis.

Arafat secured for "Palestinian" Arab "refugees" the world's only exclusive Islamic terrorist welfare system: the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), which derives the majority of its funding from the West. He got fabulously rich--who knows how much money he stole from the people he claims to represent, and where that money is now? He became the progenitor of modern Arab terror, who showed that if you lied well enough, if you killed spectacularly enough, and if you did it long enough, the world would take notice and reward you for it. He proved that a man could singlehandedly invent a people, with a nonexistent nation and a history for them, and through a protracted campaign of highly publicized violence against civilians, convince the whole world that his invented "refugees" should be showered with welfare dollars.

Unfortunately, Arafat's legacy of islamist terrorism and welfare fraud as a reward for that terrorism continues today.

 

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

Yes, sometimes I need to be more specific in my context.

The threat is about how you get there (Jihad --- Arab Violence --- any means necessary); but, not about where you are going (Moslem Calif, Shari Law).

If they both look like ducks, and they both walk like ducks, and you hear them quack like a duck, --- chances are --- they are related a species of duck; and may actually be ducks.

Their focus is on Israel, not the world's Jews: Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see HAMAS as a threat to us in the same way as ISIS. HAMAS is regional terrorist organization who's primary aim is to gain a Palestinian state. They are not radical extremists, they have no larger regional ambitions. To say they pose a threat to us or are similar to ISIS is disengenious. I've noticed, over the past year, there is a deliberate propoganda attempt to link the two in people's minds that is, at it's core, dishonest. The threat posed by HAMAS is fundamentaly different than that of ISIS in that it's directed at Israel. HAMAS poses no threat to us. ISIS, through it's global ambitions, recruiting efforts, and terrorism does.

(COMMENT)

When I say that "organizations like the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) pose a threat that is not fundamentally different from the threat posed by DAESH (ISIS/ISIL) and its branches" I am talking about the nature of the organizational statement their intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other conduct some other hostile action in retribution for opposition. Not a statement or communication of political goals and objectives. The year 2013 was the vocal year for HAMAS; 2014 comes Operation Protective Edge, and 2015 is the year of the ICC. In 2013 HAMAS made more sweeping threat statements concerning their intent, then in the entire decade previous.

• Khalid Meshal, Head of the Hamas Political Committee (and oversees Hamas terrorist cells and supervises their operations): Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle.
Published as a Major Position Paper: In English and Translated 21 March 2013

Note: This is merely a restatement of the 1988 HAMAS Covenant passage:

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
​

• In an article published July 16, 2013 on Felesteen.ps, a website affiliated with Hamas, Hamas Refugee Affairs Department head Dr 'Issam 'Adwan argued that Hamas had the right to attack Israeli embassies and interests as well as senior Israeli officials anywhere in the world. He added that the resistance is also entitled to harm the interests of Israel's allies, headed by the U.S.
First Published: July 19, 2013,

• Calls issued in protest against visits by Jews to the Temple Mount; Hamas says it has not abandoned option of suicide bombings.
First Published: 09/26/2013,

• Hamas issued a threat to Israel on Friday, warning that it will kidnap more Israeli soldiers in order to bring about the release of all Palestinian Authority Arab prisoners.
First Published: 10/18/2013,

• “Visiting of Obama with Israeli soldiers entering the Al Aqsa Mosque will actually touch the deep and the tender part of the Palestinian, Arabic and Islamic countries all over the world,” Mahmoud al-Zahar, Hamas’s senior leader in the Gaza Strip, stated.
First Published: 03/04/2013,

------------------------------------- THEN JUMP A DECADE -------------------------------------​

• "Hamas has no plans to attack American targets, the group's new leader said Wednesday, backing off earlier threats against Washington following Israel's assassination of its founder, but Israeli leaders are in the group's crosshairs."
First Published: February 22, 2004,
​

The Political intent for HAMAS is simply put in Article 11 of the Covenant:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

When the leaders of the Islamic armies conquered Syria and Iraq, they sent to the Caliph of the Moslems. ... Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.
​

In terms of DAESH (ISIS/ISIL) goals and objectives not all that dissimilar.

"The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) faces growing challenges in its attempt to create a Islamic caliphate but political failures in Iraq threaten to create another Syria, says US security analyst Anthony Cordesman." SOURCE: BBC News 12 JUN 14
​

The road getting there is covered in blood.

I hope this clarifies my previous post.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Coyote]

Coyote, et al,

Yes, sometimes I need to be more specific in my context.

The threat is about how you get there (Jihad --- Arab Violence --- any means necessary); but, not about where you are going (Moslem Calif, Shari Law).

If they both look like ducks, and they both walk like ducks, and you hear them quack like a duck, --- chances are --- they are related a species of duck; and may actually be ducks.

Their focus is on Israel, not the world's Jews: Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see HAMAS as a threat to us in the same way as ISIS. HAMAS is regional terrorist organization who's primary aim is to gain a Palestinian state. They are not radical extremists, they have no larger regional ambitions. To say they pose a threat to us or are similar to ISIS is disengenious. I've noticed, over the past year, there is a deliberate propoganda attempt to link the two in people's minds that is, at it's core, dishonest. The threat posed by HAMAS is fundamentaly different than that of ISIS in that it's directed at Israel. HAMAS poses no threat to us. ISIS, through it's global ambitions, recruiting efforts, and terrorism does.

(COMMENT)

When I say that "organizations like the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) pose a threat that is not fundamentally different from the threat posed by DAESH (ISIS/ISIL) and its branches" I am talking about the nature of the organizational statement their intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other conduct some other hostile action in retribution for opposition. Not a statement or communication of political goals and objectives. The year 2013 was the vocal year for HAMAS; 2014 comes Operation Protective Edge, and 2015 is the year of the ICC. In 2013 HAMAS made more sweeping threat statements concerning their intent, then in the entire decade previous.

• Khalid Meshal, Head of the Hamas Political Committee (and oversees Hamas terrorist cells and supervises their operations): Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle.
Published as a Major Position Paper: In English and Translated 21 March 2013

Note: This is merely a restatement of the 1988 HAMAS Covenant passage:

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
​

• In an article published July 16, 2013 on Felesteen.ps, a website affiliated with Hamas, Hamas Refugee Affairs Department head Dr 'Issam 'Adwan argued that Hamas had the right to attack Israeli embassies and interests as well as senior Israeli officials anywhere in the world. He added that the resistance is also entitled to harm the interests of Israel's allies, headed by the U.S.
First Published: July 19, 2013,

• Calls issued in protest against visits by Jews to the Temple Mount; Hamas says it has not abandoned option of suicide bombings.
First Published: 09/26/2013,

• Hamas issued a threat to Israel on Friday, warning that it will kidnap more Israeli soldiers in order to bring about the release of all Palestinian Authority Arab prisoners.
First Published: 10/18/2013,

• “Visiting of Obama with Israeli soldiers entering the Al Aqsa Mosque will actually touch the deep and the tender part of the Palestinian, Arabic and Islamic countries all over the world,” Mahmoud al-Zahar, Hamas’s senior leader in the Gaza Strip, stated.
First Published: 03/04/2013,

------------------------------------- THEN JUMP A DECADE -------------------------------------​

• "Hamas has no plans to attack American targets, the group's new leader said Wednesday, backing off earlier threats against Washington following Israel's assassination of its founder, but Israeli leaders are in the group's crosshairs."
First Published: February 22, 2004,​

The Political intent for HAMAS is simply put in Article 11 of the Covenant:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

When the leaders of the Islamic armies conquered Syria and Iraq, they sent to the Caliph of the Moslems. ... Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.
​

In terms of DAESH (ISIS/ISIL) goals and objectives not all that dissimilar.

"The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) faces growing challenges in its attempt to create a Islamic caliphate but political failures in Iraq threaten to create another Syria, says US security analyst Anthony Cordesman." SOURCE: BBC News 12 JUN 14
​

The road getting there is covered in blood.

I hope this clarifies my previous post.

Most Respectfully,
R

It clarifies it, except for this. In terms of goals and agenda - there is a fundamental difference between ISIS (which chooses a very narrow and selective interpretation of Islam) and Hamas. Both wish to establish some sort of Islamic state, but Hamas is strictly in one area - Palestine, and region that is currently contested by a Jewish state and a Muslim resident population that opposes it.

The reason people conflate the two is for the purpose of further demonizing Hamas by associating it with the excessive atrocities committed by ISIS. ISIS is global, HAMAS is regional - Palestinian. Both are terrorist organizations - and in that way are similar to a number of seperatist terrorist groups in operation today. ISIS is about conquering and consolidating territory under a very selective interpretation of Islam.

Hamas (2010): The Hamas Agenda: How Has It Changed? | Middle East Policy Council

During the first intifada, as noted by Jonathan Schanzer, “The adoption of Islamism became an increasingly popular way for Palestinians to express their discontent,”4 and even Arafat attempted to co-opt its discourse in order to halt Hamas’s increasing popularity.5 Nevertheless, this religious stance is not the cause of the organization’s rise. Hamas mobilized a new discourse, far from its Islamic stance and its bellicose position. Khaled Hroub underlines that, in its electoral platform, Hamas stressed social, economic and governance issues and adopted milder language.6 Hamas’s victory was not the result of its religious and warlike agenda. It was rather due to a clever campaign in which it took advantage of the collapse of the Oslo agreement, the failure of the Palestinian Authority (PA) to establish an independent state, and the corruption and bad governance of Fatah (the leading party in the PA).7


This behavior contrasted strongly with Hamas’s original ideology. Article Six of its founding charter, published in 1988, defined Hamas to be “a distinct Palestinian Movement which owes its loyalty to Allah, derives from Islam its way of life and strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.”8 Its slogan was the following: “Allah is its goal, the Prophet its model, the Quran its Constitution, Jihad its path, and death for the cause of Allah its most sublime belief.”9 Moreover, the charter contains several strong anti-Semitic elements and is deemed a call for the destruction of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic state in Palestine.


Most American scholars and officials refer to Hamas’s 1988 charter as defining its ideology.10 They do not take into account the changes within Hamas, preferring instead to focus on the fundamentalism of the charter. Yet, Hamas officials have made public declarations that challenge the charter. Khaled Meshal, as observed by Sherifa Zuhur, affirmed that the charter “should not be regarded as the fundamental ideological frame of reference from which the movement takes its positions.”11 Indeed, over the last decade, Hamas has expanded its involvement in political discourse and has moderated its traditional stance. According to Hroub, 2006 was a turning point: “A ‘new discourse’ had (...) been showing up in Hamas thinking during the campaign and has not simply resulted from their victory in the elections per se.”12 Hroub’s studies of Hamas’s declarations led him to conclude that its arguments tend to be more political and based on “legal jargon and the norms of international law” rather than religious rhetoric.13 During the 2006 campaign and the following months, Hamas issued several statements in which the religious references in its political argumentation were diluted.14 It mentioned neither the establishment of an Islamic state nor the destruction of Israel. Regarding Israel, the electoral platform seems to agree on the 1967 frontiers, as it only calls for “cooperating with the international community for the purpose of ending the occupation and settlements and achieving a complete withdrawal from the lands occupied [by Israel] in 1967, including Jerusalem, so that the region enjoys calm and stability during this phase.”15 ​

What is ISIS/ISIL's view on Hamas, the Palestinian Issue and Islam?

Some jihadists or pro-jihadist Salafists have issued video clips and tweets explaining their lack of assistance to the Palestinians. One tweet stated, “The Hamas government is apostate, and what it is doing does not constitute jihad, but rather a defense of democracy [which Salafists oppose].” Another tweet said, “Khaled Meshaal: Hamas fights for the sake of freedom and independence. The Islamic State: it fights so that all religion can be for God.” Meshaal is head of Hamas' political bureau.


On July 22, the Egyptian Salafist sheikh Talaat Zahran declared that it is inappropriate to aid the people of Gaza because they do not follow a legitimate leadership, and because they are equivalent to Shiites since they follow them, referring to Hezbollah and Iran, with which the Sunni Hamas movement has been allied. Thus the jihadists' position is not simply a political stance, but stems from Salafist theological principles...

...Salafist groups active in Gaza have engaged in various rivalries with Hamas there, but they have not succeeded in establishing a foothold of any significance. Some groups have posted video clips acknowledging their support for IS following the group’s recent victories in Iraq and Syria. The main dispute between Hamas and Salafist groups rests on their disparate principles. Hamas is more realistic and pragmatic than the jihadist Salafists. The former has political priorities in liberating Palestinian land, whereas the latter has religious priorities in the establishment of a totalitarian Islamic caliphate and considers the Israeli issue secondary to this central goal.​

The region is drenched in blood

 

[Coyote]

Coyote, et al,

Yes, this is very true; and something important to remember.

I think folks are always protesting the US but that doesn't make them our enemies.

(COMMENT)

Even in the US (domestic protects) - there are demonstrations against US policies on everything from seal hunts, animal rights, abortion, taxation, climate change, off shore drilling, military deployments, use of drones in the US, gun control, and money based lobbyist (and more). The difference between a peace protest --- and flag burning rallies that denounce America, inciting Jihad, issuing threats against America and her allies, and making calls for its destruction of our in the name of their deity, IS THAT one is rational and peaceful; the other is dangerous --- especially when it takes the form of an actual attack.

In the case of the Arab Palestinians, we do not use the word "enemy." In fact, relatively speaking, it is not considered politically correct to label any nation as an "enemy" as a matter of policy. But, remember that organizations like the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) pose a threat that is not fundamentally different from the threat posed by DAESH (ISIS/ISIL) and its branches.

The term "enemy" is a political observation and assignment. Being killed by HAMAS may, considered by some, not be the same as being killed by the "enemy;" you are still just as dead.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't see HAMAS as a threat to us in the same way as ISIS. HAMAS is regional terrorist organization who's primary aim is to gain a Palestinian state. They are not radical extremists, they have no larger regional ambitions. To say they pose a threat to us or are similar to ISIS is disengenious. I've noticed, over the past year, there is a deliberate propoganda attempt to link the two in people's minds that is, at it's core, dishonest. The threat posed by HAMAS is fundamentaly different than that of ISIS in that it's directed at Israel. HAMAS poses no threat to us. ISIS, through it's global ambitions, recruiting efforts, and terrorism does.

Wrong again if you bother to look at the evidence. The facts are hamas are international terrorists who will do anything to destroy Israel and mass murder all the worlds Jews. This is ambodied in their charter which they roll out every 3 months or so and say they will not stop their terrorist attack until Israel is destroyed and the land returned to the mythical Palestinian nation.

Their focus is on Israel, not the world's Jews: Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Their focus is on the worlds Jews as their charter says, they will deploy all over the world to attack the Jew and his friends. So America is no longer safe from attack and you need to be looking over your shoulder. Feeding the Jews to the crocodile will not save you when all the Jews have been eaten.

Where in the charter does it say this? Specific quote please.

 

[Phoenall]

Coyote, et al,

Yes, this is very true; and something important to remember.

(COMMENT)

Even in the US (domestic protects) - there are demonstrations against US policies on everything from seal hunts, animal rights, abortion, taxation, climate change, off shore drilling, military deployments, use of drones in the US, gun control, and money based lobbyist (and more). The difference between a peace protest --- and flag burning rallies that denounce America, inciting Jihad, issuing threats against America and her allies, and making calls for its destruction of our in the name of their deity, IS THAT one is rational and peaceful; the other is dangerous --- especially when it takes the form of an actual attack.

In the case of the Arab Palestinians, we do not use the word "enemy." In fact, relatively speaking, it is not considered politically correct to label any nation as an "enemy" as a matter of policy. But, remember that organizations like the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) pose a threat that is not fundamentally different from the threat posed by DAESH (ISIS/ISIL) and its branches.

The term "enemy" is a political observation and assignment. Being killed by HAMAS may, considered by some, not be the same as being killed by the "enemy;" you are still just as dead.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't see HAMAS as a threat to us in the same way as ISIS. HAMAS is regional terrorist organization who's primary aim is to gain a Palestinian state. They are not radical extremists, they have no larger regional ambitions. To say they pose a threat to us or are similar to ISIS is disengenious. I've noticed, over the past year, there is a deliberate propoganda attempt to link the two in people's minds that is, at it's core, dishonest. The threat posed by HAMAS is fundamentaly different than that of ISIS in that it's directed at Israel. HAMAS poses no threat to us. ISIS, through it's global ambitions, recruiting efforts, and terrorism does.

Wrong again if you bother to look at the evidence. The facts are hamas are international terrorists who will do anything to destroy Israel and mass murder all the worlds Jews. This is ambodied in their charter which they roll out every 3 months or so and say they will not stop their terrorist attack until Israel is destroyed and the land returned to the mythical Palestinian nation.

Their focus is on Israel, not the world's Jews: Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Their focus is on the worlds Jews as their charter says, they will deploy all over the world to attack the Jew and his friends. So America is no longer safe from attack and you need to be looking over your shoulder. Feeding the Jews to the crocodile will not save you when all the Jews have been eaten.

Where in the charter does it say this? Specific quote please.

Roccor gave you the answer above if you care to look

 

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

Yes, I understand you. I think you are mistaken on a couple points.

It clarifies it, except for this. In terms of goals and agenda - there is a fundamental difference between ISIS (which chooses a very narrow and selective interpretation of Islam) and Hamas. Both wish to establish some sort of Islamic state, but Hamas is strictly in one area - Palestine, and region that is currently contested by a Jewish state and a Muslim resident population that opposes it.

The reason people conflate the two is for the purpose of further demonizing Hamas by associating it with the excessive atrocities committed by ISIS. ISIS is global, HAMAS is regional - Palestinian. Both are terrorist organizations - and in that way are similar to a number of seperatist terrorist groups in operation today. ISIS is about conquering and consolidating territory under a very selective interpretation of Islam.

(COMMENT)

First, I do not claim that HAMAS has a direct association with DAESH (ISIS/ISIL). I claim that the threat is fundamentally the same. The threat DAESH presents to any country within the Middle East or Gulf State Region is the expansion and establishment of a Caliphate under Shia Law. This is the exact same threat that Israel faces from HAMAS.

When I said: "The threat is about how you get there (Jihad --- Arab Violence --- any means necessary); but, not about where you are going (Muslem Calif, Shari Law)." I should have added and how far you going (HAMAS taking Israel) (DAESH taking Syria, Mesopotamia, Middle East).

(EMPHASIS)

I also agree that in most cases, there is a definite trend in some quarter that do exactly that (demonizing Hamas by associating it with the excessive atrocities committed by ISIS). I think this is as much the fault of the processional counterintelligence/counterterrorism professional in the usage and the way terms are used.

Example: There are two perpetrators: One with a hand-gun and one with a machine-gun.

• The THREAT is that each one can shoot you.
• The MAGNITUDE of the THREAT is that one can potentially shoot more people faster than the other.
• The INFLUENCE (area of influence) of the THREAT is that one can shoot farther than the other.

IMPLICATION: You are just as dead (the THREAT) if HAMAS destroys Israel (little gun) -- as you would be -- if DAESH (big gun) destroys (the THREAT) Israel. It does not matter which one kills you (little gun slowly -- big gun faster), the THREAT outcome is still the same (you are dead).​

(COMMENT)

YES. You are absolutely correct. At the present time, the HAMAS stated objective is ALL of the former mandated territory. However, HAMAS also makes it direct tie with conceptually. Remember: The objectives of Islam (docile, moderate, or radical) are essential all the same, inspired by the same root. This passage of the HAMAS Covenant was written 16 years before DAESH becomes active as part of al-Qaeda (2004), and two decades before DAESH's Declaration of Caliphate.

The Covenant
of the
Islamic Resistance Movement
HAMAS
18 August 1988

Strategies and Methods

Strategies of the Islamic Resistance Movement: Palestine Is Islamic aqf:​

Article Eleven:

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?

This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.

It happened like this: When the leaders of the Islamic armies conquered Syria and Iraq, they sent to the Caliph of the Moslems, Umar bin-el-Khatab, asking for his advice concerning the conquered land - whether they should divide it among the soldiers, or leave it for its owners, or what? After consultations and discussions between the Caliph of the Moslems, Omar bin-el-Khatab and companions of the Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, it was decided that the land should be left with its owners who could benefit by its fruit. As for the real ownership of the land and the land itself, it should be consecrated for Moslem generations till Judgement Day. Those who are on the land, are there only to benefit from its fruit. This Waqf remains as long as earth and heaven remain. Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

"Verily, this is a certain truth. Wherefore praise the name of thy Lord, the great Allah." (The Inevitable - verse 95).
​

Also, remember that a "waqf" is an inalienable religious endowment in Shia law.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

What you have been lead to believe is bullshit.
You have got to get over this ridiculous idea that there was a thriving nation of Palestinians living there. There was not.
In the late 1800's, there wasn't a living soul there. By 1948, this is the breakdown of land ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Britain.
8.6 % owned by Jews.
16.9 % owned by NON Resident Arabs.
3.3 % owned by RESIDENT Arabs.


APRIL 5, 1950
The Arab National Committee:
"THE REMOVAL OF THE ARAB INHABITANTS (who btw, had been living in Israel for less than 24 months) WAS VOLUNTARY AND WAS CARRIED OUT AT OUR REQUEST. THE ARAB DELEGATON PROUDLY ASKED FOR THE EVACUATION OF THE ARABS AND THEIR REMOVAL TO THE NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES."

Neighboring countries refused to let the Arabs into the neighboring countries. So the squatted on the outskirts of Israel.
ISRAEL OWES THEM NOTHING.

You're so full of shit. Here's the official land ownership in that area in 1948.

 

[Hollie]

What you have been lead to believe is bullshit.
You have got to get over this ridiculous idea that there was a thriving nation of Palestinians living there. There was not.
In the late 1800's, there wasn't a living soul there. By 1948, this is the breakdown of land ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Britain.
8.6 % owned by Jews.
16.9 % owned by NON Resident Arabs.
3.3 % owned by RESIDENT Arabs.


APRIL 5, 1950
The Arab National Committee:
"THE REMOVAL OF THE ARAB INHABITANTS (who btw, had been living in Israel for less than 24 months) WAS VOLUNTARY AND WAS CARRIED OUT AT OUR REQUEST. THE ARAB DELEGATON PROUDLY ASKED FOR THE EVACUATION OF THE ARABS AND THEIR REMOVAL TO THE NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES."

Neighboring countries refused to let the Arabs into the neighboring countries. So the squatted on the outskirts of Israel.
ISRAEL OWES THEM NOTHING.

You're so full of shit. Here's the official land ownership in that area in 1948.

Who made that the "official land map"?

 

[Billo_Really]

What you have been lead to believe is bullshit.
You have got to get over this ridiculous idea that there was a thriving nation of Palestinians living there. There was not.
In the late 1800's, there wasn't a living soul there. By 1948, this is the breakdown of land ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Britain.
8.6 % owned by Jews.
16.9 % owned by NON Resident Arabs.
3.3 % owned by RESIDENT Arabs.


APRIL 5, 1950
The Arab National Committee:
"THE REMOVAL OF THE ARAB INHABITANTS (who btw, had been living in Israel for less than 24 months) WAS VOLUNTARY AND WAS CARRIED OUT AT OUR REQUEST. THE ARAB DELEGATON PROUDLY ASKED FOR THE EVACUATION OF THE ARABS AND THEIR REMOVAL TO THE NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES."

Neighboring countries refused to let the Arabs into the neighboring countries. So the squatted on the outskirts of Israel.
ISRAEL OWES THEM NOTHING.

You're so full of shit. Here's the official land ownership in that area in 1948.

Who made that the "official land map"?

Read the bottom of it, *****.

 

[Phoenall]

What you have been lead to believe is bullshit.
You have got to get over this ridiculous idea that there was a thriving nation of Palestinians living there. There was not.
In the late 1800's, there wasn't a living soul there. By 1948, this is the breakdown of land ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Britain.
8.6 % owned by Jews.
16.9 % owned by NON Resident Arabs.
3.3 % owned by RESIDENT Arabs.


APRIL 5, 1950
The Arab National Committee:
"THE REMOVAL OF THE ARAB INHABITANTS (who btw, had been living in Israel for less than 24 months) WAS VOLUNTARY AND WAS CARRIED OUT AT OUR REQUEST. THE ARAB DELEGATON PROUDLY ASKED FOR THE EVACUATION OF THE ARABS AND THEIR REMOVAL TO THE NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES."

Neighboring countries refused to let the Arabs into the neighboring countries. So the squatted on the outskirts of Israel.
ISRAEL OWES THEM NOTHING.

You're so full of shit. Here's the official land ownership in that area in 1948.

Read the legend again dildo and see that this is not a true reflection of the reality, it was produced by committee not by factual data. The title arab included Ottoman muslims who were the majority land owners prior to 1948, then Internaqtional law of 1923 kicked in and all that land became Jewish owned.

 

[Billo_Really]

Read the legend again dildo and see that this is not a true reflection of the reality, it was produced by committee not by factual data. The title arab included Ottoman muslims who were the majority land owners prior to 1948, then Internaqtional law of 1923 kicked in and all that land became Jewish owned.

Nice try, troll.

 

[Phoenall]

What you have been lead to believe is bullshit.
You have got to get over this ridiculous idea that there was a thriving nation of Palestinians living there. There was not.
In the late 1800's, there wasn't a living soul there. By 1948, this is the breakdown of land ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Britain.
8.6 % owned by Jews.
16.9 % owned by NON Resident Arabs.
3.3 % owned by RESIDENT Arabs.


APRIL 5, 1950
The Arab National Committee:
"THE REMOVAL OF THE ARAB INHABITANTS (who btw, had been living in Israel for less than 24 months) WAS VOLUNTARY AND WAS CARRIED OUT AT OUR REQUEST. THE ARAB DELEGATON PROUDLY ASKED FOR THE EVACUATION OF THE ARABS AND THEIR REMOVAL TO THE NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES."

Neighboring countries refused to let the Arabs into the neighboring countries. So the squatted on the outskirts of Israel.
ISRAEL OWES THEM NOTHING.

You're so full of shit. Here's the official land ownership in that area in 1948.

Who made that the "official land map"?

Read the bottom of it, *****.

Read the top and see it was "sub committee 2 of the ad hoc committee on the Palestine question" so not a legal document and riddled with mistakes. Like were is the Negev on this map

 

[Phoenall]

Read the legend again dildo and see that this is not a true reflection of the reality, it was produced by committee not by factual data. The title arab included Ottoman muslims who were the majority land owners prior to 1948, then Internaqtional law of 1923 kicked in and all that land became Jewish owned.

Nice try, troll.

So you now understand why you are wrong and why we call you a NAZI JEW HATER. Will you be running away later today after getting butt whipped again.

 

[Hollie]

What you have been lead to believe is bullshit.
You have got to get over this ridiculous idea that there was a thriving nation of Palestinians living there. There was not.
In the late 1800's, there wasn't a living soul there. By 1948, this is the breakdown of land ownership:
71.2 % of the land was owned by Britain.
8.6 % owned by Jews.
16.9 % owned by NON Resident Arabs.
3.3 % owned by RESIDENT Arabs.


APRIL 5, 1950
The Arab National Committee:
"THE REMOVAL OF THE ARAB INHABITANTS (who btw, had been living in Israel for less than 24 months) WAS VOLUNTARY AND WAS CARRIED OUT AT OUR REQUEST. THE ARAB DELEGATON PROUDLY ASKED FOR THE EVACUATION OF THE ARABS AND THEIR REMOVAL TO THE NEIGHBORING ARAB COUNTRIES."

Neighboring countries refused to let the Arabs into the neighboring countries. So the squatted on the outskirts of Israel.
ISRAEL OWES THEM NOTHING.

You're so full of shit. Here's the official land ownership in that area in 1948.

Who made that the "official land map"?

Read the bottom of it, *****.

I read the bottom of it.

Read my question again: who made the "official land map"? Since when is the UN a land title company?

Stupidity is not an excuse you can fall back on forever.

 

[Billo_Really]

I read the bottom of it.

Read my question again: who made the "official land map"? Since when is the UN a land title company?

Stupidity is not an excuse you can fall back on forever.

It's an official UN document. If you don't think its true, pony up the evidence that shows its not.

 

[Billo_Really]

Read the top and see it was "sub committee 2 of the ad hoc committee on the Palestine question" so not a legal document and riddled with mistakes. Like were is the Negev on this map

Show evidence that proves it wrong.

You just shooting your mouth off, doesn't mean anything.

 

[Hollie]

I read the bottom of it.

Read my question again: who made the "official land map"? Since when is the UN a land title company?

Stupidity is not an excuse you can fall back on forever.

It's an official UN document. If you don't think its true, pony up the evidence that shows its not.

An official UN document?

I'm impressed.

As it's an official UN document from the official UN Land Title Company, you can then pony up the evidence that such a thing exists other than in the warped world of the Loinboy sock puppet.

Right?.

 

[Billo_Really]

An official UN document?

I'm impressed.

As it's an official UN document from the official UN Land Title Company, you can then pony up the evidence that such a thing exists other than in the warped world of the Loinboy sock puppet.

Right?.

You're just spewing bullshit.

Provide the evidence that it isn't.

 

[Hollie]

An official UN document?

I'm impressed.

As it's an official UN document from the official UN Land Title Company, you can then pony up the evidence that such a thing exists other than in the warped world of the Loinboy sock puppet.

Right?.

You're just spewing bullshit.

Provide the evidence that it isn't.

"Provide the evidence that it isn't"

You made a bogus claim, unsupported, and then suggest that anyone is required to disprove a claim you're too incompetent to make a positive case for?

You're so silly.

 

[Billo_Really]

"Provide the evidence that it isn't"

You made a bogus claim, unsupported, and then suggest that anyone is required to disprove a claim you're too incompetent to make a positive case for?

You're so silly.

I made a claim and the map was my evidence.

All you're doing is talking shit.