Palestine in Israeli School Books

[Lipush]

Posters of suicide bombers hang in Palestinian classroom in Tul Karem.

Are you sure that is who they are?

Whoever hangs up photos of people with guns and rifles in a class full of little kids, is either braindamaged or wicked.

 

[Phoenall]

It truly saddens me. Poor lady loses her daughter to scumbags, yet she searches to trash her country and understand the scumbags.

It's an ironic form of Stockholmd Syndrome

not at all, she is totally right. It is Israel's doing.

You are probably too young to remember South Africa clearly. but it was the same deal. They had terrorists, too, but it got so bad all even white people could think was "yeah, if I was a black South African I would slit their effing white throats too."

Problem is now they are still slitting white throats even after getting their freedom. And many black South Africans want a return to apartheid laws to curb the ever growing violent crime and rape.
Just like the Palestinians aren't they, violent racist haters that are not content with winning their total freedom. Now they want to wipe out all the enemy.
Did you know that more blacks have been murdered by other blacks since the end of white rule in South Africa than were killed by the whites. In fact I believe the blacks killed more blacks in the first year than the whites killed in 30. Again just like the palestinians

 

[amity1844]

Let me make one comment in passing and I WILL NEVER SAY ANYTHING LIKE THIS AGAIN TO A ZIONIST SO LONG AS I LIVE, SO HELP ME GOD!

I am going to admit that personally, I was much more comfortable with the comparatively warm and fuzzy Fateh we-are-all-one binationationalism. I believe they really meant it from their hearts. They indoctrinated it into their kids, too.

but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You had to do everything possible to undermine the Fateh moderates. I mean killed thousands of your best buds in the Palestinian nation. Denounced them to the world. Gave money to Hamas. Corrupted their leadership.

And now your chicks are home to roost folks, cause this is what 's left. The Palestinian right of return is real, Hamas excesses don't abrogate it, whether ideological or on the ground. There is no way to deny the legitimacy of the right of return, and this is who you are going to have to ultimately deal with in all probability.

My probable favorite human being of all time was a Fateh man. I guess I was looking a little starry eyed at that young age, so he told me "don't give your loyalty to Fateh, don't give it to me. If you place your faith in anyone but the Palestinian people you will be so disappointed." Very wise man.

Sorry, fellow future Palestinians, deal with it.

 

[Phoenall]

That's because you are thinking with your intestines, not your brain and heart. it is a very primitive reaction. Breaking the cycle of violence takes more moral courage than you have right now. I hope better things for you.

Surely the ones that started the violence must be the ones to say sorry and stop the violence, hoping that their enemies can accept the offer of peace. So who started the violence between the arab muslims and the Jews ?

 

[Phoenall]

Are Palestinian education texts books in the next video? they're full of hatred. Of course you not going to represent that. I guess you're interested in half

no, Lipush, Palestinian schoolbooks are amazingly free of hatred. Israel tells you they are hateful just to make YOU hateful. They might even make phony books even just to fool you. There doesn't seem to be much Israel won't stoop to. I am totally surprised at all the phony sites the Z's link to, the phony pictures people have put together. Its crazy! But you be smart. Call their bluff and turn away. Don't let them manipulate you.

Do they ship them to mosques all over the world them, because I have seen them for sale in the UK. Along with wahabi text books that teach pre-teens to hate Christians and Jews, describes them as pigs and apes and teaches them that homosexuals should be murdered

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Palestinian school books report.

http://www.palwatch.org/STORAGE/special%20reports/SchoolBooks_English_Final_for_web.pdf

 

[amity1844]

Well, I guess that proves you all don't read what I post.

Like I said ......

Too bad, so sad. But things change. The pendulum swings both ways. People are people and if you don't FORCE them to hate you, they won't.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Palestinian school books report.

http://www.palwatch.org/STORAGE/special%20reports/SchoolBooks_English_Final_for_web.pdf

 

[Lipush]

Well, I guess that proves you all don't read what I post.

Like I said ......

Too bad, so sad. But things change. The pendulum swings both ways. People are people and if you don't FORCE them to hate you, they won't.

So now we're off the "they don't teach their kids to hate you" propaganda crap, and take a step forward to the "Yes they hate you and they have the right to hate you, because they're cute little care-bears who always have a reason to what they do" phase.

Well, I guess that's better than denying the obvious.

 

[amity1844]

People are people. Did Jews hate Nazis? I hope so. Was it the Jews' fault?
Not on your life.

I am not equating Zionists with Nazis, I am just pointing out that Zionism has dismantled the Palestinians' world just as surely as Nazism dismantled the Jews' world, and you, dear Zionist are their boogeyman, and they are correct in their assessment.

And the next generation will be different, and even before that things will be different. It always is.

 

[Lipush]

People are people. Did Jews hate Nazis? I hope so. Was it the Jews' fault?
Not on your life.

I am not equating Zionists with Nazis, I am just pointing out that Zionism has dismantled the Palestinians' world just as surely as Nazism dismantled the Jews' world, and you, dear Zionist are their boogeyman, and they are correct in their assessment.

And the next generation will be different, and even before that things will be different. It always is.

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

 

[amity1844]

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

that is b.s. Research People of the Book.

What I am saying is where did all these fervent Muslims come from? out of the ashes.

Palestinian nationalism was a quite secular movement in along about 1977. But you didn't want to recognize that you could still have a Jewish majority and democracy if you would only do it in the context of a bi-national solution.

Now what do you propose for your solution. Bomb the crap out of the Gazans until they become moderates again?

 

[aris2chat]

Are you sure that is who they are?

Whoever hangs up photos of people with guns and rifles in a class full of little kids, is either braindamaged or wicked.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pos...KAZW1yATWooKQDQ&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1067&bih=489

You can look at the whole gallery of the posters.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Are you sure that is who they are?

Whoever hangs up photos of people with guns and rifles in a class full of little kids, is either braindamaged or wicked.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pos...KAZW1yATWooKQDQ&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1067&bih=489

You can look at the whole gallery of the posters.

And that very photo above is on your link as well.

 

[MHunterB]

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

that is b.s. Research People of the Book.

What I am saying is where did all these fervent Muslims come from? out of the ashes.

Palestinian nationalism was a quite secular movement in along about 1977. But you didn't want to recognize that you could still have a Jewish majority and democracy if you would only do it in the context of a bi-national solution.

Now what do you propose for your solution. Bomb the crap out of the Gazans until they become moderates again?

No, that's 'Hostility logic'. YOU are the one who's suggested bombing as a means to bring about a resolution to this conflict (the US nuking Tel Aviv).

That appears to be your mentality, Hostility: you and the Billobully are the only ones who've brought up the idea of the US using military force to force its will upon Israel.

And yet I'm certain you were against the US using military force in Iraq or anywhere else in the ME. So the ONLY nation you think we should be attacking is the one that's been our ally all these years...... and for the sake of people who lionize those who've coldly murdered non-combatant US citizens, over and over and over again.

We get it: you are so against the idea of an Israel existing that you'd like to *punish* the Israelis. And you think that of all the situations in the world today, that it's worth having the US declare war on one of its allies to get the Palestinians their state.

Never-mind the series of kleptocratic nepotistic oligarchies which have been the "leaders" of that state. Never-mind that not a one of 'em has made any plans beyond 'destroying Israel'. And never-mind that the current "leadership" is too incompetent to even collect its utility bills and taxes - or that they imprison journalists and others merely for MEETING their Israeli counterparts, or for being a male hairstylist for women, or dressing in a way they don't approve.....

And of course never-mind that the Palestinians were GIVEN a state back in '48 - WHICH THEY REFUSED - and brought in five different armies to invade Israel. Now the truth is, the Palestinians were INSTRUCTED to refuse by the Arab League - which had already made agreement with one another to beggar and eject all their Jewish citizens! The AL basically ordered the Palestinians to stand aside while they got rid of Israel - and then the
AL was going to decide how the newly-conquered Israel's land would be distributed.

I truly don't blame the Palestinians for being suckered in by the AL 'leadership': they were desperate. And I don't hate them for it. They were not the ones making the plans.

But then not one of the AL nations ever let those poor people out of those UN-paid-for camps - not to go to school, not to become citizens, not for anything EXCEPT to slink into Israel and murder civilians.

And of course if we're only to be permitted to discuss the I/P conflict in total isolation - well, that will only shield the AL nations from their war crimes, their crimes against humanity, and their repeated attempts at genocide......oh, not to mention preventing them from being called to account for creating close to a million refugees as they appropriated (STOLE) an area of land FOUR TIMES the size of Israel from their citizens.

I can understand wanting to support the Palestinians: I'd certainly like to. But why pander to the imperial (caliphate) daydreams of the AL nations?

 

[aris2chat]

People are people. Did Jews hate Nazis? I hope so. Was it the Jews' fault?
Not on your life.

I am not equating Zionists with Nazis, I am just pointing out that Zionism has dismantled the Palestinians' world just as surely as Nazism dismantled the Jews' world, and you, dear Zionist are their boogeyman, and they are correct in their assessment.

And the next generation will be different, and even before that things will be different. It always is.

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

because their clerics, leaders and teachers teach them to hate. Because all the posters and trading card teach them to hate. Because the radio, tv and everything around them teach them to hate.

Where is the lessons of love thy neighbor, or the people of the book?
Where are the lessons of peace?

 

[Lipush]

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

that is b.s. Research People of the Book.

What I am saying is where did all these fervent Muslims come from? out of the ashes.

Palestinian nationalism was a quite secular movement in along about 1977. But you didn't want to recognize that you could still have a Jewish majority and democracy if you would only do it in the context of a bi-national solution.

Now what do you propose for your solution. Bomb the crap out of the Gazans until they become moderates again?

Wow, you really DO NOT KNOW much about Islam, do you?

Well, in Islam, the later scripture is the one that holds, in other words, if the Quran or Hadith say something in Sura 14, and says the otherwise in Sura 100, the saying in Sura 100, is the one that holds.

In the Beginning of his life, Muhammad believed to be the Messiah of the already known one God of the Jews and Christians. He tried to convince the Jews, and to be liked by them, while adressing them with kindness and calling them "people of the book". It is even said earlier in the Quran- 'When you do not know if certain behavior is adequate, follow the Torah that was given to the Jews before you."

However, once the Jews told him they refuse to follow his new religion, that they do not believe he's the Messiah, since that by the Jewish religion, the Messiah can only come from Israel, and once Muhammad understood he could not convince them, it was then when he turned 180 and began cursing them. Today Jews are known as "Offspring of pigs and apes" in Islam, rather then the "People of the book", and that thanks to Muhammad's change of attitude to the nation he believed humiliated him.

"O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people"- Quran 5.51

And the Jews say, "The hand of Allah is chained." Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say."- Quran 5.64

Say, "Shall I inform you of [what is] worse than that as penalty from Allah ? [It is that of] those whom Allah has cursed and with whom He became angry and made of them apes and pigs and slaves of Taghut. Those are worse in position and further astray from the sound way.."- Quran 5.60

 

[Lipush]

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

that is b.s. Research People of the Book.

What I am saying is where did all these fervent Muslims come from? out of the ashes.

Palestinian nationalism was a quite secular movement in along about 1977. But you didn't want to recognize that you could still have a Jewish majority and democracy if you would only do it in the context of a bi-national solution.

Now what do you propose for your solution. Bomb the crap out of the Gazans until they become moderates again?

You cannot bomb someone to change their opinions.

You can bomb someone to prevent them for bombing you.

 

[irosie91]

They hate Jews because Muhammad told them to hate Jews, and their God told them to hate Jews.

Me being Zionist is not the cause. It just makes it easier.

that is b.s. Research People of the Book.

What I am saying is where did all these fervent Muslims come from? out of the ashes.

Palestinian nationalism was a quite secular movement in along about 1977. But you didn't want to recognize that you could still have a Jewish majority and democracy if you would only do it in the context of a bi-national solution.

Now what do you propose for your solution. Bomb the crap out of the Gazans until they become moderates again?

what is "Research People of the Book"?? I encountered muslims in the USA long
before 1977-----and even attended mosques in the USA long before 1977. In fact way
back in my childhood ------LONG LONG ago----I read your literature----the same stuff
you virtually quote. "KILL THE JEWS" is an issue amongst muslims as old as is islam
itself. I encountered my husband a bit after but close to 1977----he originated in a
community of jews that lived in a shariah cesspit for more than 1000 years
where muslim babies' first words included YITBACH AL YAHUD.

perhaps you can define the "Palestinian nationalism" of 1977. and its putative
"history"

 

[proudveteran06]

Nurit Peled-Elhanan lost a 13-year-old daughter in a suicide bombing. Her reaction was to examine how Palestinians are presented in Israeli socializing media, textbooks and school curricula, and the role of this artificially constructed mindset in perpetuating the Israel-Palestine conflict.


http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=122



http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/memrireport.html


Introduction
Depicting Jews – and sometimes also Zionists – as "the descendants of apes and pigs" is extremely widespread today in public discourse in the Arab and Islamic worlds.

For example, in a weekly sermon in April 2002, Al-Azhar Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi, the highest-ranking cleric in the Sunni Muslim world, called the Jews "the enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs."[1]

In one of his sermons, Saudi sheikh Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayyis, imam and preacher at the Al-Haraam mosque – the most important mosque in Mecca – beseeched Allah to annihilate the Jews. He also urged the Arabs to give up peace initiatives with them because they are "the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs."[2]

"Read history," called Al-Sudayyis in another sermon, "and you will understand that the Jews of yesterday are the evil fathers of the Jews of today, who are evil offspring, infidels, distorters of [others'] words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers... the scum of the human race 'whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs...' These are the Jews, an ongoing continuum of deceit, obstinacy, licentiousness, evil, and corruption..."[3]

In a sermon at the Said Al-Jandoul mosque in Al-Taif, Saudi sheikh Ba'd bin Abdallah Al-Ajameh Al-Ghamidi explained that "the qualities of the Jews" were present at all times and in all places: "The current behavior of the brothers of apes and pigs, their treachery, violation of agreements, and defiling of holy places... is connected with the deeds of their forefathers during the early period of Islam – which proves the great similarity between all the Jews living today and the Jews who lived at the dawn of Islam."[4]

In an August 2001 sermon, Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi, Palestinian Authority official and imam of the Sheikh Ijlin mosque, Gaza City's main mosque, called on the Palestinian people to forget their internal disagreements and turn all weapons against Jews: "lances must be directed at the Jews, the enemies of Allah, the nation accursed in Allah's book. Allah described [them] as apes and pigs, calf-worshipers, idol-worshippers..."[5]


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