Palestine in Israeli School Books

[Indeependent]

So has this been posted somewhere neutral that I may read for myself?

I went to PLO schools in Lebanon and know what they were teaching. You wouldn't entirely approve, they weren't teaching Israel's legitimacy whatsoever, but they certainly were not teaching hatred of Jews.

They NEVER teach hatred of Jews, just Zionism.
And guess whom they consider to be Zionists?
JEWS!

 

[amity1844]

So has this been posted somewhere neutral that I may read for myself?

I went to PLO schools in Lebanon and know what they were teaching. You wouldn't entirely approve, they weren't teaching Israel's legitimacy whatsoever, but they certainly were not teaching hatred of Jews.

They NEVER teach hatred of Jews, just Zionism.
And guess whom they consider to be Zionists?
JEWS!

but as we've have seen, very many Jews are not Zionist. If they're Zionist then Zionism is the problem, not their Jewishness. Palestinians do have their Archie Bunkers, but not many, and certainly not the sophisticated ones.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Posters of suicide bombers hang in Palestinian classroom in Tul Karem.

Are you sure that is who they are?

I am sure. Right click on the photo, open in a new tab, copy and paste into Google, search by image and you will see where the photo is placed.

 

[amity1844]

I must not be doing it right because it is just going to a private photo storing account. Can't tell whose.

but on thinking about it, it is consistent. There have always been posters of Palestinian heroes, on walls, in schools. 30-40 years ago it was fedayeen and people like Ghassan Kanafani. Now its suicide bombers. Its a new idea for me, but face it, pictures of Menachem Begin hung in every public building in Israel for a good long while, too.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

I must not be doing it right because it is just going to a private photo storing account. Can't tell whose.

but on thinking about it, it is consistent. There have always been posters of Palestinian heroes, on walls, in schools. 30-40 years ago it was fedayeen and people like Ghassan Kanafani. Now its suicide bombers. Its a new idea for me, but face it, pictures of Menachem Begin hung in every public building in Israel for a good long while, too.

Yes, you are not doing it right. As I said, if you follow the instructions a Google search for that image will take you to sites that prove the posters are of suicide bombers.

http://s11.postimg.org/624m32n03/Posters_of_Suicide_Bombers_Hang_in_Classroom_in.jpg

The Palestinian Textbook Fiasco | The Tower

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

 

[amity1844]

We need to get straight what constitutes a worthwhile source.

This article is in a magazine that ONLY features pro-Israel articles. It has no footnotes, no primary sources. It is basically a newspaper piece. That isn't necessarily terrible, it could be a source for certain purposes, and it doesn't seem to be a hate site at least (which are so common on this forum), but there is nothing we can check and say more than "this is that author's view." it doesn't make any pretenses to serious scholarship. It is unabashedly one sided. It could be a total lie masquerading as serious investigative journalism.

Please try to find another source for your statements. Because I never saw something hateful in a Palestinian textbook or heard something hateful in a context like this, I am slow to believe.

And I don't really see anything wrong with the video, which is ALSO not from a particularly credible source. Did the Zionists not teach their kids similarly in the early days before statehood? Don't tell me they didn't!
I can't hear all the voiceover on the videos, but based on what I did hear and see, it seems consistent.
I'm at work, so I have to keep the volume down.
I hate to say it, but you had your chance with the moderates and you elected to support Hamas.
I've said it before, you made your own "monster."

 

[MHunterB]

That's because you are thinking with your intestines, not your brain and heart. it is a very primitive reaction. Breaking the cycle of violence takes more moral courage than you have right now. I hope better things for you.

Whereas you, the oh-so-superior individual, 'think' with your emotions and classify about 10% of the Jewish Israeli population as 'legitimate targets' for violent home invasion and murder, even babies.

And you, the 'Ivy-League-all-the-way' of superior education AND intellect, felt it worth considering dropping a nuke on Tel Aviv to 'convince' Israel to do as the US wishes her to......

But of course, I'm the unreasonable one, me being a Zionist and all....Someday, you *must* tell me what is so terrible that Hadassah has been doing for the past century or so: was it the 'Drops of Milk' program? The trachoma clinics? Or was it the establishment of Hadassah Hospital, perhaps? Surely it couldn't be the breast cancer awareness education that we do world-wide (well, wherever we're ALLOWED to go to those countries!)

 

[amity1844]

I didn't say any of the things you are attributing to me.

I don't know that much about Hadassah, I think it is just a social service organization. How did they get dragged into the conversation?

 

[MHunterB]

Hostility - All you need to do is look up how many sports fields, camps, etc, etc have been named after filth like Dalal Mughrabi......

 

[amity1844]

YES, definitely there are a lot of facilities named after martyrs.

And you have some named after Menachem Begin. He survived. But he wasn't any better, believe me.
I'm not convinced David Ben Gurion was any better!

 

[MHunterB]

I didn't say any of the things you are attributing to me.

I don't know that much about Hadassah, I think it is just a social service organization. How did they get dragged into the conversation?

You certainly DID express those ideas over and over and over. You constantly inform everyone who doesn't share your views that you know more and better than they: you've accused us of being 'brainwashed', of not being able to think for ourselves. At one point, you actually stated words to the effect that 'I know you didn't watch that video, because nobody could watch it and still support Zionism' - what complete arrogance!

If you'd tried to see 'you Zionists' as individual human beings, you would've read a few times that "My Zionism is Hadassah" You are oh-so-revolted by 'Zionism' - and yet you don't seem to know what it is. I gave you my 'definition': Hadassah. We are THE women's Zionist organization.

Your ideas about 'Zionism' have nothing to do with the reality of my life's experiences over the past 40+ years...... And you have been insisting that's because I am 'brainwashed', LOL.

I don't suppose you've ever considered the possibility that YOU have had your cranial cavity laundered as well?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

We need to get straight what constitutes a worthwhile source.

This article is in a magazine that ONLY features pro-Israel articles. It has no footnotes, no primary sources. It is basically a newspaper piece. That isn't necessarily terrible, it could be a source for certain purposes, and it doesn't seem to be a hate site at least (which are so common on this forum), but there is nothing we can check and say more than "this is that author's view." it doesn't make any pretenses to serious scholarship. It is unabashedly one sided. It could be a total lie masquerading as serious investigative journalism.

Please try to find another source for your statements. Because I never saw something hateful in a Palestinian textbook or heard something hateful in a context like this, I am slow to believe.

And I don't really see anything wrong with the video, which is ALSO not from a particularly credible source. Did the Zionists not teach their kids similarly in the early days before statehood? Don't tell me they didn't!
I can't hear all the voiceover on the videos, but based on what I did hear and see, it seems consistent.
I'm at work, so I have to keep the volume down.
I hate to say it, but you had your chance with the moderates and you elected to support Hamas.
I've said it before, you made your own "monster."

A six year old would know how to source that photo. You just have to look at the terrorists holding their rifles to see what they are depicting. And you don't see anything wrong with a UN body advocating hate to the children they teach. You better listen to the video when you finish work. The way you lot wiggle and squirm your way out of the truth is incredible.

 

[amity1844]

No, you are reinterpreting what I said to fit your purposes. I NEVER said what you are attributing to me. Your mind tries to cram what I say into your preconceived notions, and so what you think you hear is garbled.

If ALL the information you are receiving is from Zionist sources, then YES you are brainwashed. Try to branch out a bit. I do read Zionist sources and that is why I was asking for bibliography a couple of weeks ago. I have never known ANY Zionist to admit they have read something even neutral!

I won't necessarily condemn Hadassah apart from the fact that they are Zionist... but they do fabulous genetic studies at their hospital.

 

[amity1844]

A six year old would know how to source that photo. You just have to look at the terrorists holding their rifles to see what they are depicting. And you don't see anything wrong with a UN body advocating hate to the children they teach. You better listen to the video when you finish work. The way you lot wiggle and squirm your way out of the truth is incredible.

Ok, will definitely watch later.
The UN isn't advocating hate to the children they teach. The people in the camps are running their own schools.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

A six year old would know how to source that photo. You just have to look at the terrorists holding their rifles to see what they are depicting. And you don't see anything wrong with a UN body advocating hate to the children they teach. You better listen to the video when you finish work. The way you lot wiggle and squirm your way out of the truth is incredible.

Ok, will definitely watch later.
The UN isn't advocating hate to the children they teach. The people in the camps are running their own schools.

Wrong. You will see why in the video.

 

[MHunterB]

YES, definitely there are a lot of facilities named after martyrs.

And you have some named after Menachem Begin. He survived. But he wasn't any better, believe me.
I'm not convinced David Ben Gurion was any better!

Here's the point you keep missing: what you think is no recommendation to me. NONE. It has NO weight, because you are entirely arrogant and totally one-sided. You are no more 'thoughtful' or 'reasonable' than the Roudiest postings of pro-Israelis - a fact which you are apparently completely unable to discern.

I'm appalled as an American by the total disregard you, Hostility, have shown for the US Constitution. I'm revolted by your constant litany of 'you should, they should, everyone else should' - it's as though you fantasize you're somehow the boss of absolutely everyone else.

And the 'we, we, we' BS.......that's just too much. What, are you channeling all of HAMAS? That's what it reads like.

 

[MHunterB]

No, you are reinterpreting what I said to fit your purposes. I NEVER said what you are attributing to me. Your mind tries to cram what I say into your preconceived notions, and so what you think you hear is garbled.

If ALL the information you are receiving is from Zionist sources, then YES you are brainwashed. Try to branch out a bit. I do read Zionist sources and that is why I was asking for bibliography a couple of weeks ago. I have never known ANY Zionist to admit they have read something even neutral!

I won't necessarily condemn Hadassah apart from the fact that they are Zionist... but they do fabulous genetic studies at their hospital.

The daft bint has farted:
She's sure it's sweetest perfume!
The rest gasp for air.....

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

No, you are reinterpreting what I said to fit your purposes. I NEVER said what you are attributing to me. Your mind tries to cram what I say into your preconceived notions, and so what you think you hear is garbled.

If ALL the information you are receiving is from Zionist sources, then YES you are brainwashed. Try to branch out a bit. I do read Zionist sources and that is why I was asking for bibliography a couple of weeks ago. I have never known ANY Zionist to admit they have read something even neutral!

I won't necessarily condemn Hadassah apart from the fact that they are Zionist... but they do fabulous genetic studies at their hospital.

The daft bint has farted:
She's sure it's sweetest perfume!
The rest gasp for air.....

It's called craftiness!

 

[Phoenall]

This is Miko Peled's sister, of course. They are both equally powerful speakers.

Her body language tells me that she is not happy talking about this subject, it is as if she was being prompted on what to say by someone of camera. Watch her eyes constantly flicking to her right, and the small but noticeable pauses in her delivery.

A false flag operation if you ask me