PA House Introduces a Resolution: The Election Process Shall Be Declared Improper.

[Faun]

Sorry, but the Supreme Court only gets into the picture if the State Courts rule against the Constitution as it's written. So far, they haven't done that. Okay, they have by the copy you have with all the Sharpe changes to your copy but to the US Constitution of America, they have all put it right back to the voters choice. There is nothing there for the Supreme Court to rule on.

In PA the state courts ruled that they can accept mail in ballots for the rest of the week. The law in PA is that all ballots have to be received by 8:00 on Tuesday, the day of the election. This is what's known as judicial legislation; changing the laws on the bench. It's why Al Gore lost that election because the Florida judges did the exact same thing.

In another state some locations allowed for ballot fixing, meaning they corrected the ballots that were not filled out properly. In other locations, they didn't allow it. This violates the Equal Protection Under the Law right. Ballots in a state have to be counted the same way, not favor one area over another.

That was because the State Legislation passed a late bonehead law about when the votes could be counted which would have excluded many mail-in ballots. The System was supposed to fail but due to diligent and hard working Election Officials and Volunteers it didn't fail. And I bet that pisses you off a lot more than some of the mismanagement.

It doesn't matter since Pennsylvania didn't count any ballots that came in after 8PM on election night and Biden still won by some 80K votes.

 

[Juicin]

wrong again,,,

they are trying to defend against a rigged election,,,

With zero evidence presented in court.

Newsflash!

Newsmax/OAN/Epoch Times/Natural News aren't a branch of the American government, no matter how much you really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really want them to be!

....Unconstitutionally sending out millions of mail in ballots is the epitome of a fraudulent election?

It was very clearly unconstitutional

THe court's remedy won't be to remove those votes

But a legislature can

 

[Faun]

It takes more than a history book! Constitutional law, maybe. There is some question about what happens if the House declares a state's electoral votes invalid (and yeah, that could happen, they can do that for two slates in dispute) -- okay, that state's votes don't count. So.............................how many electoral votes are needed NOW? Still 270, or fewer?

This is Democrat constitutional Professor Alan Dershowitz on that subject. It's only a few minute video.

"you have to have evidence." ~ Alan Dershowitz

And right there is why Impeached Trump loses -- he has none.

 

[progressive hunter]

It takes more than a history book! Constitutional law, maybe. There is some question about what happens if the House declares a state's electoral votes invalid (and yeah, that could happen, they can do that for two slates in dispute) -- okay, that state's votes don't count. So.............................how many electoral votes are needed NOW? Still 270, or fewer?

This is Democrat constitutional Professor Alan Dershowitz on that subject. It's only a few minute video.

"you have to have evidence." ~ Alan Dershowitz

And right there is why Impeached Trump loses -- he has none.

then why are you so scare???

 

[Faun]

wrong again,,,

they are trying to defend against a rigged election,,,

With zero evidence presented in court.

Newsflash!

Newsmax/OAN/Epoch Times/Natural News aren't a branch of the American government, no matter how much you really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really want them to be!

....Unconstitutionally sending out millions of mail in ballots is the epitome of a fraudulent election?

It was very clearly unconstitutional

THe court's remedy won't be to remove those votes

But a legislature can

Oh? What's unconstitutional about sending out ballots?

 

[Faun]

It takes more than a history book! Constitutional law, maybe. There is some question about what happens if the House declares a state's electoral votes invalid (and yeah, that could happen, they can do that for two slates in dispute) -- okay, that state's votes don't count. So.............................how many electoral votes are needed NOW? Still 270, or fewer?

This is Democrat constitutional Professor Alan Dershowitz on that subject. It's only a few minute video.

"you have to have evidence." ~ Alan Dershowitz

And right there is why Impeached Trump loses -- he has none.

then why are you so scare???

There ain't no scare, that just your over-active imagination.

 

[anynameyouwish]

PA house steps in on the fraudulent election process.


In the immediate future, we will be introducing the following resolution:

...

THEREFORE, be it RESOLVED that the Pennsylvania House of Representatives—

1. Recognizes substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing during the November 3, 2020 election; and

2. Disapproves of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the United States Constitution to regulate elections; and

3. Disapproves of and disagrees with the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors; and

4. Declares that the selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute; and

5. Urges the Secretary of the Commonwealth and the Governor to withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors and to delay certification of results in other statewide electoral contests voted on at the 2020 General Election; and

6. Urges the United States Congress to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute.

House Co-Sponsorship Memoranda

www.legis.state.pa.us

if the election is in dispute

and it doesnt count

them trump leaves the white house on jan 20 and nancy pelosi becomes ?

fact: if election is disputed then trump and pence LEAVE office on jan 20


muddled: after that it gets complicated but under current system it is most likely that a dem from the house or senate would assume temporary presidency

look it up

i did

 

[progressive hunter]

It takes more than a history book! Constitutional law, maybe. There is some question about what happens if the House declares a state's electoral votes invalid (and yeah, that could happen, they can do that for two slates in dispute) -- okay, that state's votes don't count. So.............................how many electoral votes are needed NOW? Still 270, or fewer?

This is Democrat constitutional Professor Alan Dershowitz on that subject. It's only a few minute video.

"you have to have evidence." ~ Alan Dershowitz

And right there is why Impeached Trump loses -- he has none.

then why are you so scare???

There ain't no scare, that just your over-active imagination.

I dont have to imagine anything,,,

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That was because the State Legislation passed a late bonehead law about when the votes could be counted which would have excluded many mail-in ballots. The System was supposed to fail but due to diligent and hard working Election Officials and Volunteers it didn't fail. And I bet that pisses you off a lot more than some of the mismanagement.

Irrelevant. The law is the law and a judge cannot change that law on the bench. It can only be changed by the legislatures. I know of no last minute voting law change in regards to when all ballots had to be turned in by. To my knowledge, it's always been that way.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Sorry, but the Supreme Court only gets into the picture if the State Courts rule against the Constitution as it's written. So far, they haven't done that. Okay, they have by the copy you have with all the Sharpe changes to your copy but to the US Constitution of America, they have all put it right back to the voters choice. There is nothing there for the Supreme Court to rule on.

In PA the state courts ruled that they can accept mail in ballots for the rest of the week. The law in PA is that all ballots have to be received by 8:00 on Tuesday, the day of the election. This is what's known as judicial legislation; changing the laws on the bench. It's why Al Gore lost that election because the Florida judges did the exact same thing.

In another state some locations allowed for ballot fixing, meaning they corrected the ballots that were not filled out properly. In other locations, they didn't allow it. This violates the Equal Protection Under the Law right. Ballots in a state have to be counted the same way, not favor one area over another.

When our Mail-in Voting was established, we had a Dem and a Rep House and Senate. They came up with the idea that as long as it was postmarked no later than the day of the election that it would count as long as it was filled out properly by a registered voter. The Legislation also said that votes would be counted AS they come into the polling places including the early ones.

1. Of course, this was before the USPS was monkeyed with to delay votes to be received in a timely manner.

2. Passing a law where you can't start counting ANY votes until the poll closes really causes a huge mess. And it did.

3. Passing a law where you counted the in person voting votes first and then the Mail-in votes last can cause one candidate to appear to win the day after election but lose the day after or even a week later.

4. Not giving the Election officials enough time to contact the voters with incorrectly (minor) filled out ballots and allow enough time to get those ballots back to the Voter and get the corrected ballots into place.

Had the Legislatures (Republicans) taken the time to look at the states that have done mail-in ballot elections for a decade or more they wouldn't have forced these mistakes. I don't believe they were mistakes. Viewing the RNCs attempts at harming mail-in voting in the first place, I would say that all this was intentional. All the Courts are doing is leveling the playing field.

 

[Juicin]

PA house steps in on the fraudulent election process.


In the immediate future, we will be introducing the following resolution:

...

THEREFORE, be it RESOLVED that the Pennsylvania House of Representatives—

1. Recognizes substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing during the November 3, 2020 election; and

2. Disapproves of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the United States Constitution to regulate elections; and

3. Disapproves of and disagrees with the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors; and

4. Declares that the selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute; and

5. Urges the Secretary of the Commonwealth and the Governor to withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors and to delay certification of results in other statewide electoral contests voted on at the 2020 General Election; and

6. Urges the United States Congress to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute.

House Co-Sponsorship Memoranda

www.legis.state.pa.us

if the election is in dispute

and it doesnt count

them trump leaves the white house on jan 20 and nancy pelosi becomes ?

fact: if election is disputed then trump and pence LEAVE office on jan 20


muddled: after that it gets complicated but under current system it is most likely that a dem from the house or senate would assume temporary presidency

look it up

i did

The election is only disputed if electors aren't certified and sent

The election is going to be certified

THe question is will it be with Republican chosen electors......Or the democratic electors from various states

THere is no way this ends in a Pelosi interim president

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When our Mail-in Voting was established, we had a Dem and a Rep House and Senate. They came up with the idea that as long as it was postmarked no later than the day of the election that it would count as long as it was filled out properly by a registered voter. The Legislation also said that votes would be counted AS they come into the polling places including the early ones.

1. Of course, this was before the USPS was monkeyed with to delay votes to be received in a timely manner.

2. Passing a law where you can't start counting ANY votes until the poll closes really causes a huge mess. And it did.

3. Passing a law where you counted the in person voting votes first and then the Mail-in votes last can cause one candidate to appear to win the day after election but lose the day after or even a week later.

4. Not giving the Election officials enough time to contact the voters with incorrectly (minor) filled out ballots and allow enough time to get those ballots back to the Voter and get the corrected ballots into place.

Had the Legislatures (Republicans) taken the time to look at the states that have done mail-in ballot elections for a decade or more they wouldn't have forced these mistakes. I don't believe they were mistakes. Viewing the RNCs attempts at harming mail-in voting in the first place, I would say that all this was intentional. All the Courts are doing is leveling the playing field.

Which is bull because prepaid envelops are by routine never stamped with a postmark by the PO. They knew that. The PO said they would stamp them for this election if they seen them, but that doesn't mean they stamped each one, only the ones they happened to spot.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

That was because the State Legislation passed a late bonehead law about when the votes could be counted which would have excluded many mail-in ballots. The System was supposed to fail but due to diligent and hard working Election Officials and Volunteers it didn't fail. And I bet that pisses you off a lot more than some of the mismanagement.

Irrelevant. The law is the law and a judge cannot change that law on the bench. It can only be changed by the legislatures. I know of no last minute voting law change in regards to when all ballots had to be turned in by. To my knowledge, it's always been that way.

It's very relevant. And the Legislatures DID make a few changes to harm Mail-in Voting just before the election. When they added Mail-in Voting, they needed to go to the same rules as the states that have done it successfully for at least a decade, some for over 2 decades. I still hold that the whole process was setup to fail. But it didn't fail due to some very hard working and diligent Officials and Volunteers who did the best they could do with the plate served to them. The Courts aren't making up new laws, they are just evening up the playing field and not allowing you Party of the Rumpers to keep moving the goal posts.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

When our Mail-in Voting was established, we had a Dem and a Rep House and Senate. They came up with the idea that as long as it was postmarked no later than the day of the election that it would count as long as it was filled out properly by a registered voter. The Legislation also said that votes would be counted AS they come into the polling places including the early ones.

1. Of course, this was before the USPS was monkeyed with to delay votes to be received in a timely manner.

2. Passing a law where you can't start counting ANY votes until the poll closes really causes a huge mess. And it did.

3. Passing a law where you counted the in person voting votes first and then the Mail-in votes last can cause one candidate to appear to win the day after election but lose the day after or even a week later.

4. Not giving the Election officials enough time to contact the voters with incorrectly (minor) filled out ballots and allow enough time to get those ballots back to the Voter and get the corrected ballots into place.

Had the Legislatures (Republicans) taken the time to look at the states that have done mail-in ballot elections for a decade or more they wouldn't have forced these mistakes. I don't believe they were mistakes. Viewing the RNCs attempts at harming mail-in voting in the first place, I would say that all this was intentional. All the Courts are doing is leveling the playing field.

Which is bull because prepaid envelops are by routine never stamped with a postmark by the PO. They knew that. The PO said they would stamp them for this election if they seen them, but that doesn't mean they stamped each one, only the ones they happened to spot.

Just how long does it take to get a pre paid package across town? BTW, ours is not pre paid. You have to put on the appropriate amount stamps and they are handled first class. I mail it today and you get it the next day. You are trying to move the goal posts once again. And courts see that and won't let you.

 

[danielpalos]

WHEREAS, heavily Democrat counties permitted mail-in voters to cure ballot defects while heavily Republican counties followed the law and invalidated defective ballots; and

The Law must be in favor of the franchise rather than restricting the franchise.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Sorry, but the Supreme Court only gets into the picture if the State Courts rule against the Constitution as it's written. So far, they haven't done that. Okay, they have by the copy you have with all the Sharpe changes to your copy but to the US Constitution of America, they have all put it right back to the voters choice. There is nothing there for the Supreme Court to rule on.

In PA the state courts ruled that they can accept mail in ballots for the rest of the week. The law in PA is that all ballots have to be received by 8:00 on Tuesday, the day of the election. This is what's known as judicial legislation; changing the laws on the bench. It's why Al Gore lost that election because the Florida judges did the exact same thing.

In another state some locations allowed for ballot fixing, meaning they corrected the ballots that were not filled out properly. In other locations, they didn't allow it. This violates the Equal Protection Under the Law right. Ballots in a state have to be counted the same way, not favor one area over another.

That was because the State Legislation passed a late bonehead law about when the votes could be counted which would have excluded many mail-in ballots. The System was supposed to fail but due to diligent and hard working Election Officials and Volunteers it didn't fail. And I bet that pisses you off a lot more than some of the mismanagement.

It doesn't matter since Pennsylvania didn't count any ballots that came in after 8PM on election night and Biden still won by some 80K votes.

Agreed. But it appears that they need to get rid of some really mean spirited Party of the Rumpers they have in their Legislative Body.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's very relevant. And the Legislatures DID make a few changes to harm Mail-in Voting just before the election. When they added Mail-in Voting, they needed to go to the same rules as the states that have done it successfully for at least a decade, some for over 2 decades. I still hold that the whole process was setup to fail. But it didn't fail due to some very hard working and diligent Officials and Volunteers who did the best they could do with the plate served to them. The Courts aren't making up new laws, they are just evening up the playing field and not allowing you Party of the Rumpers to keep moving the goal posts.

The legislature did not change the law when the ballots had to be turned in. That was done by a judge. The law is all ballots have to be there by 8:00 pm on election day; no later.

 

[Contumacious]

Look at the anti-American Trump cultists

Trying to overturn the sovereign will of the people and steal an election

Look at the anti-American parasite/socialist cultists

Trying to overturn the sovereign will of WE THE PEOPLE and steal an election

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It's very relevant. And the Legislatures DID make a few changes to harm Mail-in Voting just before the election. When they added Mail-in Voting, they needed to go to the same rules as the states that have done it successfully for at least a decade, some for over 2 decades. I still hold that the whole process was setup to fail. But it didn't fail due to some very hard working and diligent Officials and Volunteers who did the best they could do with the plate served to them. The Courts aren't making up new laws, they are just evening up the playing field and not allowing you Party of the Rumpers to keep moving the goal posts.

The legislature did not change the law when the ballots had to be turned in. That was done by a judge. The law is all ballots have to be there by 8:00 pm on election day; no later.

And the "LAW" didn't match reality when they added Mail-in voting. The "Law" also said that no ballots could not be counted until AFTER the polls closed. The "Law" also said that the in person ballots had to be counted first and it laid out the sequence for the other types of ballots to be counted. The "Law" was never intended for mail-in voting to be successful. All the Judge did was level out the playing field. Sounds to me that the real culprits here are the Republican partyoftherumpers who tried to throw an election. If a State wants Legislators like that representing them then no court in the nation will rule against that.

 

[Toro]

Look at the anti-American parasite/socialist cultists

Trying to overturn the sovereign will of WE THE PEOPLE and steal an election

You should take up the case yourself Lionel.

Put your law license on the line.

You couldn't do any worse than that shit show that is the Trump legal team.