Our Universe is too vast for even the most imaginative sci-fi

[Votto]

It's no wonder that aliens hide from us. They just come here, abduct us, and probe our arse to see why we are such asshats.

No one had the heart to tell him the lense cap was on.

Aliens painted little white dots on the lense cap. He will never figure it out.

The funny part is, if he has connected the dots he could clearly see that it spells, "Obozo" and "universal health care my green ass".

 

[yiostheoy]

My brain can't comprehend it; it's overwhelming.

There are no good scientific, religious, or philosophical explanations for what the Universe actually is.

Scientifically our radio telescopes have shown us an ever expanding wave of energy and light growing like a big bubble in all directions.

Within this bubble are the billions of galaxies randomly clustered in chains of rings.

What is beyond the bubble we have no idea.

What has caused the bubble we have no idea either.

Scientists have speculated that the bubble all began from one tiny pinprick Big Bang, but we have no idea about that either. It is just speculation.

 

[yiostheoy]

Can time be described in a mathematical context?

What is time? | plus.maths.org

(takes too long to read? Or takes time?)

Time does not exist.

It is merely an invention of the human mind.

Same is true of mathematics -- it also does not exist. It too just a human invention.

 

[yiostheoy]

My brain can't comprehend it; it's overwhelming.

Yes, it is.

The way science fiction approaches it, warp drive in Star Trek for instance, makes us imagine unimaginable distances to be 20 minutes away.

There are two ways for humans to visit the far reaches of the cosmos ... one within our present state of technolgy.

Build large ships with nuclear engines that travel close enough to the speed of light for time dilation to be a factor. Voyages that last thousands of centuries by Earth time will take only a few years to the crew of the ship. Of course, they will never come back and never report what they find.

The second, 'Star Trek' way, plausible but not within our current state of technology, is to create massive gravitational lenses that allow us to bend space time so that we will cross vast distances using conventional propulsion.

Things like worm holes and black holes might theoretically be possible ways to explore the cosmos, but that would be many centuries in the future.

None of these science fiction fantasies is valid.

 

[there4eyeM]

Science fiction shares a problem with theology.

 

[yiostheoy]

"The spacecraft Voyager 1, for example, launched in 1977 and, travelling at 11 miles per second, is now 137 AU from the Sun."

1 AU = 149,597,871 kilometers or 93 million miles.

So 137 AU's = 12.7 billion miles.

That is 137 times the distance from Earth to Sun.

And in galactic terms that is really not very far away at all compared with the billions of galaxies in deep space shown to us by Hubble.

 

[fncceo]

None of these science fiction fantasies is valid.

Time dilation isn't science fiction ,,, it's a quantifiable effect.

 

[yiostheoy]

None of these science fiction fantasies is valid.

Time dilation isn't science fiction ,,, it's a quantifiable effect.

You can quantify the angels dancing on the head of a pin as well.

 

[hadit]

My brain can't comprehend it; it's overwhelming.

Yes, it is.

The way science fiction approaches it, warp drive in Star Trek for instance, makes us imagine unimaginable distances to be 20 minutes away.

Even at the fastest Star Trek speed, warp 10, you still could only explore a small fraction of our home galaxy in a human lifetime. Space is really big.

Of course, that's only possible in Sci Fi. Anything traveling at the speed of light would experience no time passing between the beginning and the end of the trip.

 

[yiostheoy]

Science fiction shares a problem with theology.

For humans, everything boils down to being born, eating, growing, living, then dying, and finally dissolving into noxious fluids and finally to dust as bones decay from acidic soils or sunlight if left unburied.

The mind inside the brain cannot content itself with birth and death and the grave, so it imagines space travel and gods.

But other than a few short hops to the moon by a few past star-sailors (astronaut -- translated out of the original Greek), the grave is the ultimate destination of humankind.

 

[yiostheoy]

My brain can't comprehend it; it's overwhelming.

Yes, it is.

The way science fiction approaches it, warp drive in Star Trek for instance, makes us imagine unimaginable distances to be 20 minutes away.

The writers did this just to come up with a smash hit TV show.

End of story.

End of the reality too.

 

[there4eyeM]

End and beginning are mind constructs as well. That makes existence the only thing that could ever be important.

 

[yiostheoy]

End and beginning are mind constructs as well. That makes existence the only thing that could ever be important.

To add to Mindful 's list of incomprehensible's -- we don't even know what existence is.

Rene Descartes pointed out to us that since we think therefore we exist.

However that's as far as he took it.

Everybody in Philosophy has been wondering about that ever since.

 

[Votto]

"The spacecraft Voyager 1, for example, launched in 1977 and, travelling at 11 miles per second, is now 137 AU from the Sun."

1 AU = 149,597,871 kilometers or 93 million miles.

So 137 AU's = 12.7 billion miles.

That is 137 times the distance from Earth to Sun.

And in galactic terms that is really not very far away at all compared with the billions of galaxies in deep space shown to us by Hubble.

Wait, I thought you said math does not exist.

 

[Votto]

End and beginning are mind constructs as well. That makes existence the only thing that could ever be important.

To add to Mindful 's list of incomprehensible's -- we don't even know what existence is.

Rene Descartes pointed out to us that since we think therefore we exist.

However that's as far as he took it.

Everybody in Philosophy has been wondering about that ever since.

We pay taxes, buy health care, and die, therefore we exist.

 

[Mindful]

Science fiction shares a problem with theology.

For humans, everything boils down to being born, eating, growing, living, then dying, and finally dissolving into noxious fluids and finally to dust as bones decay from acidic soils or sunlight if left unburied.

The mind inside the brain cannot content itself with birth and death and the grave, so it imagines space travel and gods.

But other than a few short hops to the moon by a few past star-sailors (astronaut -- translated out of the original Greek), the grave is the ultimate destination of humankind.

So what's the point of us?

 

[Mindful]

"The spacecraft Voyager 1, for example, launched in 1977 and, travelling at 11 miles per second, is now 137 AU from the Sun."

1 AU = 149,597,871 kilometers or 93 million miles.

So 137 AU's = 12.7 billion miles.

That is 137 times the distance from Earth to Sun.

And in galactic terms that is really not very far away at all compared with the billions of galaxies in deep space shown to us by Hubble.

Wait, I thought you said math does not exist.

Lucy said that, in the daft but thoroughly enjoyable movie of the same name.

 

[yiostheoy]

So what's the point of us?

Well the only conclusions that the greatest philosophers in history can come up with is that some kind of God exists, at least One if not more, although in Philosophy you only need One to cure all the logical paradoxes, AND that this God loves art -- so we have been artistically created with beauty for His/Her/Their pleasure.

Therefore to answer your question -- we exist to please this God or Gods.

Precisely as St. Paul (Catholic saint) said -- we are the slaves of God.

This is essentially the same fundamental principle and foundation of ancient Greek mythology as well. Back in those days maidens were the pleasure of the male Gods while youths were the pleasure of the female Goddesses.

The story is not that different for Dynamos espousing Mary Of Nazareth to father the birth of Jesus in the Greek New Testament.

The greatest philosophical thinkers in all of history since then have not been able to come up with anything better.

Meanwhile you cannot prove or disprove it with a telescope or a microscope.

 

[fncceo]

So what's the point of us?

We make GREAT TV shows that the rest of the Galaxy will eventually enjoy.

 

[Mindful]

Or maybe we'll have our 'time'. Like the dinosaurs.