The Sage of Main Street
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Did Clarke tell all that to the little boys he molested in Sri Lanka?
Our Universe is too vast for even the most imaginative sci-fi
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Ok so I forgot about him.
We learned mostly about Brigham Young in high school and college who became the American Moses of the 1840's with respect to the settlement of the intermountain West.
Joseph Smith Jr. (his real name) was the founder of B.Y.'s new faith group. Polygamy eventually got them both into big trouble with Wash DC. Plus anti-slavery at a time when that was a hot button issue like abortion and guns are today.
So this gives you yet another major choice in the realm of Religion (remember that Philosophy and Science and Religion are completely separate topics and must be kept separate).
Since Mindful has not yet taken up the torch of Religion I will not go there -- not yet.
I had learned that the English word "Moon" comes from the German word "Mond" which comes from a more ancient Aryan word meaning "to measure".
Origin
Old English mōna, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch maan and German Mond, also to month, from an Indo-European root shared by Latin mensis and Greek mēn ‘month,’ and also Latin metiri ‘to measure’ (the moon being used to measure time).
ScienceRocks
Democrat all the way!
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It may take humanity a few hundred billion years to do it, but I feel that we will do it.
Muhammed
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What I don't like about him is the way he constantly states opinions as facts.
Hey Akmed why don't you lay some Arab philosophy on us ?!
Muhammed
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Go visit a library.
Why would I do that when I have a perfectly good moosleem here to tell me ???
It looks like the Arab philosophers mostly just copied the Greeks, and also San Tomas Aquinas the Catholic saint:
Arabic Philosophy - General - The Basics of Philosophy
Arabic Philosophy - General - The Basics of Philosophy
The Sage of Main Street
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The Moon and Sixpence
The fact that it seems to get smaller is more striking and definitive. Way back when they first named it, they were too primitive to be much interested in time and measurements. They didn't have a numbering system except for "one, two, many" (indicated by waving the hand (manus in Latin)). I don't trust academics; no one would unless he looked at them as the highest authority.
The Sage of Main Street
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We're Off to See the Wizard, Or at Least the Willard
I think what he said was this, in reference to Mitt Romney:
What America's been seekin'
Is a dorky Mormon deacon.
Muhammed
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I'm not Muslim. I'm an atheist.
Good for you !!
You have shaken off the brainwashing of islam.
Now if we could only get about 2 billion other moosleems deprogramed then that would be making progress and helping the Earth at the same time !!
Romney is dog meat now.
DJT summoned him to The White House and then rubbed his face in it.
Muhammed
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Why the fuck did you think I was an Arab Muslim???
Long before astronomers and people learned how to reckon the seasons with the Sun, they were using the Moon to measure days and weeks.
The Moon is more obvious for measurement, and that's why it was named from the same root word in Aryan as "measure".
The Moon disappears into the Sun every month, which is called a new moon. It then reappears as a sliver at dusk. This is called a waxing moon. From then on every evening the moon grows larger.
One week after the new moon at midnight it is half lit and called a first quarter moon because it is one quarter through it's cycle.
Two weeks after the new moon at sunset it is a full moon.
Three weeks after the new moon at noon the other half is lit and it is called a waning third quarter.
Four weeks after the new moon it disappears into the Sun again. The last sliver can be seen just before sunrise.
This is how the ancient peoples measured time.
So Moon, measure, and month all come from the same Aryan root word for measurement.
Has nothing to do with shrinkage.
The shrinkage is in your head.
Because you have a fokking Arab name, Bozo.
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No Arab Muslim would use a pic of Mohammed... The Stupid!!! It hurts!!!!
Long before any peoples anywhere learned Philosophy (which came long after Religion) or Science (which came long after Philosophy) they looked out from their treehouses and caves and saw 7 heavenly bodies floating across the night sky.
The first was the Sun obviously, and by rising from the east and setting in the west every day, the Sun chased away the darkness and brought warmth to humankind. These primitive peoples must have thought the Sun was a superbeing -- a God -- and therefore they worshipped it. The Sun was the first object of worship before any pantheons of Gods were invented.
Next after the Sun they saw the Moon which appeared to be a smaller sister to the Sun. It gave light during the night and allowed ancient peoples to hunt in the night, when most of the animals came out to forage for their food. Hunting has always been better at night than in the daytime when game animals are scarce. So the Moon also became an object of their worship and they thought of it as a Goddess.
In this primitive anthropomorphic world the Sun became the God of the day and the Moon became the Goddess of the night. And as males and females of all animals including humans populated the Earth, the ancient peoples figured that the Sun was masculine and the Moon was feminine.
The Sun and the Moon visited them every day.
Periodically other heavenly bodies also appeared, some brighter than others. In order of their brightness we call them Venus (a Latin name for the Goddess of love and beauty), Jupiter (a Latin conjugation of the Greek name Zeus-Pater the Father God), Mars (also Latin for the God of War), Saturn (also Latin for the God of farming), and Mercury (a Latin name for the messenger God).
The ancients then dedicated one day to each of these seven heavenly bodies, and they discovered that 4 times 7 equals one Moon cycle.
That's how our 7 day week was born in Mesopotamia at ancient Babylonia even before Sargon The Great unified it in 2200 BCE.
From these apparent heavenly super-beings sailing across the night sky the notion of Gods was born in the human mind.
That is why the first sky god was a god of light in prehistoric Zoroastrianism, now a modern religion in Persia, but anciently all encompassing in Babylonia as well.
Sargon of Akkad never claimed to be a god himself. This indignity was left for later kings and pharaohs. Religion then became politicized, and the king in most places was considered to be a son of God, especially in Egypt. This ruse was required to compel obedience from the people to make them obedient and pay their taxes.
Thus Religion evolved first from the anthropomorphic heavenly bodies in the night sky, and then as embraced and manipulated by ancient kings.
From ancient Zoroastrianism there developed a pantheon of Gods and Goddesses, which was copied by the ancient Egyptians and ancient Greeks.
Philosophy evolved from Hesiod and Thales in ancient Greece.
Science evolved from Galileo in Italy with his telescope.
The first was the Sun obviously, and by rising from the east and setting in the west every day, the Sun chased away the darkness and brought warmth to humankind. These primitive peoples must have thought the Sun was a superbeing -- a God -- and therefore they worshipped it. The Sun was the first object of worship before any pantheons of Gods were invented.
Next after the Sun they saw the Moon which appeared to be a smaller sister to the Sun. It gave light during the night and allowed ancient peoples to hunt in the night, when most of the animals came out to forage for their food. Hunting has always been better at night than in the daytime when game animals are scarce. So the Moon also became an object of their worship and they thought of it as a Goddess.
In this primitive anthropomorphic world the Sun became the God of the day and the Moon became the Goddess of the night. And as males and females of all animals including humans populated the Earth, the ancient peoples figured that the Sun was masculine and the Moon was feminine.
The Sun and the Moon visited them every day.
Periodically other heavenly bodies also appeared, some brighter than others. In order of their brightness we call them Venus (a Latin name for the Goddess of love and beauty), Jupiter (a Latin conjugation of the Greek name Zeus-Pater the Father God), Mars (also Latin for the God of War), Saturn (also Latin for the God of farming), and Mercury (a Latin name for the messenger God).
The ancients then dedicated one day to each of these seven heavenly bodies, and they discovered that 4 times 7 equals one Moon cycle.
That's how our 7 day week was born in Mesopotamia at ancient Babylonia even before Sargon The Great unified it in 2200 BCE.
From these apparent heavenly super-beings sailing across the night sky the notion of Gods was born in the human mind.
That is why the first sky god was a god of light in prehistoric Zoroastrianism, now a modern religion in Persia, but anciently all encompassing in Babylonia as well.
Sargon of Akkad never claimed to be a god himself. This indignity was left for later kings and pharaohs. Religion then became politicized, and the king in most places was considered to be a son of God, especially in Egypt. This ruse was required to compel obedience from the people to make them obedient and pay their taxes.
Thus Religion evolved first from the anthropomorphic heavenly bodies in the night sky, and then as embraced and manipulated by ancient kings.
From ancient Zoroastrianism there developed a pantheon of Gods and Goddesses, which was copied by the ancient Egyptians and ancient Greeks.
Philosophy evolved from Hesiod and Thales in ancient Greece.
Science evolved from Galileo in Italy with his telescope.
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