Osteen mega church shooter ID’d

[iku]

If I call myself a Vegan.....then eat a steak, I am not a Vegan.

If I call myself a Christian, then commit murder...I am not a Christian...

You are stupid, true....but you really need to start paying more attention.

If you are a Christian and you commit murder, you are a Christian that has sinned.
Ask Jesus for forgiveness.

 

[JoeB131]

If I call myself a Vegan.....then eat a steak, I am not a Vegan.

If I call myself a Christian, then commit murder...I am not a Christian...

You are stupid, true....but you really need to start paying more attention.

This is the whole "No True Scotsman" Fallacy.

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and similar counterexamples by appeal to rhetoric.[4] This rhetoric takes the form of emotionally charged but nonsubstantive purity platitudes such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", etc.[2]

Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[5]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A person might truly think they are a Vegan if they don't eat meat 99% of the time, and maybe had that steak once. Some people consider themselves Vegan if they still eat Dairy or seafood. See, you are appealing to purity.

As for Christians not murdering people, sweet evil Jesus, man, Christians have been murdering people since Constantine rose the cross over the Milvian Bridge.

Not to mention all the Crusades, Inquistions, witch-burnings, etc. that "Christians" carried out with the full blessing of the Church.

 

[skye]

The Babylon Bee-



"Houston PD Says We May Never Know Motive Of Church Shooter Who Wrote ‘Free Palestine’ On Gun

"It remains an enigma wrapped in a riddle," said Houston Police Commander Chris Hassig at a press briefing.

"The important thing is we all have to remember to respect the suspect's pronouns."

Houston PD Says We May Never Know Motive Of Church Shooter Who Wrote ‘Free Palestine’ On Gun

HOUSTON, TX — As investigators continue to put together the pieces of the puzzle left behind by the shooting at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church, Houston Police said they may never know the motive of the shooter who wrote "Free Palestine" on his gun.

babylonbee.com

 

[crossbody]

The Babylon Bee-

"Houston PD Says We May Never Know Motive Of Church Shooter Who Wrote ‘Free Palestine’ On Gun

"It remains an enigma wrapped in a riddle," said Houston Police Commander Chris Hassig at a press briefing.

"The important thing is we all have to remember to respect the suspect's pronouns."

Houston PD Says We May Never Know Motive Of Church Shooter Who Wrote ‘Free Palestine’ On Gun

HOUSTON, TX — As investigators continue to put together the pieces of the puzzle left behind by the shooting at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church, Houston Police said they may never know the motive of the shooter who wrote "Free Palestine" on his gun.

babylonbee.com

Give it a week or two... a manifesto might just show up in the mail somewhere.

 

[crossbody]

I think he/she wanted those church donations back. Maybe it was meant to be a robbery for past donations.

They call it membership at the church
They call it partner with us on TV
They call it sponsoring in the secular world

It's really just a one-way stream of giving. It does not flow both ways. The church does not give back donations, nor do they have to. The shooter donated in 2020 when all the unemployment, stimulus, and PPP money was flowing. When people fall on hard times they don't think straight or mature. People think in terms of I gave to you now you give to me. If you really are in need churches do have a fund set aside to help. They put you on a payment plan.

Lakewood shooter ‘donated money to megachurch’ before attack that left son fighting for life​

Tue, February 13, 2024, 11:31 AM CST

Lakewood shooter ‘donated money to megachurch’ before attack that left son fighting for life

The shooter’s son is still in the hospital fighting for his life after he suffered a gunshot wound in the head

www.yahoo.com

 

[Calypso Jones]

Except she wasn't transgender or an illegal immigrant. But do keep lying, it's what your side is best at.

The Far Right Is Spreading Misinformation Claiming the Lakewood Church Shooter Was Trans

Libs of TikTok and Elon Musk rushed to spread the misinformation as part of the far right’s desperate push to make “trans terrorism” a thing.

www.vice.com

In a press conference later on Monday, police officials noted that, although the shooter appeared to utilize both male and female names, they found no indication that she ever identified as anything but a cisgender woman.

LOLOL police officials couldn't find their asses with both hands. HOW MANY TIMES have they said, 'we have not established the motive for this muslim blowing up infidels'. well...they left out that last part in writing but the rest of us know they are full of sh*t.

 

[Calypso Jones]

 

[2aguy]

This is the whole "No True Scotsman" Fallacy.

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and similar counterexamples by appeal to rhetoric.[4] This rhetoric takes the form of emotionally charged but nonsubstantive purity platitudes such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", etc.[2]

Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[5]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A person might truly think they are a Vegan if they don't eat meat 99% of the time, and maybe had that steak once. Some people consider themselves Vegan if they still eat Dairy or seafood. See, you are appealing to purity.

As for Christians not murdering people, sweet evil Jesus, man, Christians have been murdering people since Constantine rose the cross over the Milvian Bridge.

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Not to mention all the Crusades, Inquistions, witch-burnings, etc. that "Christians" carried out with the full blessing of the Church.

Nope.....

If I declare myself a Vegan, and then eat a steak, I am not a Vegan.

There are tenets of Christianity that if you break them means you are not a Christian...

 

[2aguy]

This is the whole "No True Scotsman" Fallacy.

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly.[1][2][3] Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and similar counterexamples by appeal to rhetoric.[4] This rhetoric takes the form of emotionally charged but nonsubstantive purity platitudes such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", etc.[2]

Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[5]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A person might truly think they are a Vegan if they don't eat meat 99% of the time, and maybe had that steak once. Some people consider themselves Vegan if they still eat Dairy or seafood. See, you are appealing to purity.

As for Christians not murdering people, sweet evil Jesus, man, Christians have been murdering people since Constantine rose the cross over the Milvian Bridge.

View attachment 901801

Not to mention all the Crusades, Inquistions, witch-burnings, etc. that "Christians" carried out with the full blessing of the Church.

None of those things followed the teachings of Jesus....you dumb ass.......

 

[JoeB131]

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So you have nine cases, some of which aren't actually Transgender, some of which were not mass shootings.

We have 600 mass shootings a year, and most of them are cis-gendered males.

 

[JoeB131]

None of those things followed the teachings of Jesus....you dumb ass.......

Again, "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

Most of the Christian right doesn't follow the teachings of Jesus.

 

[Calypso Jones]

So you have nine cases, some of which aren't actually Transgender, some of which were not mass shootings.

We have 600 mass shootings a year, and most of them are cis-gendered males.

That's not true. oh...well.. it probably is when you count chicago, detroit and ny city.. and those 'CIS GENDERED', little girl, are black males.

 

[debbiedowner]

You’re very gullible.

....And you're very stupid. BTW the kid was 7.

 

[marvin martian]

So you have nine cases, some of which aren't actually Transgender, some of which were not mass shootings.

We have 600 mass shootings a year, and most of them are cis-gendered males.

Transgenders are overrepresented among mass shooters, just as black men are vastly overrepresented.

 

[2aguy]

So you have nine cases, some of which aren't actually Transgender, some of which were not mass shootings.

We have 600 mass shootings a year, and most of them are cis-gendered males.

We don't have 600 mass public shootings a year...that is a lie....last year and the year before we had a total of 12.....

The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

2023....12

2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

School shootings...

2023....1
2022.....1
2021....1
2020....0
2019....0
2018.....2
2017....0
2016...0
2015....1 (community college)
2014...1
2013.....0
2012....2
2011....0
2010...0
2006.....1

1999.......1

1998.....2

1992....1

1989....1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Bicycles killed 891 (2020)

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...

2023...75
2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[2aguy]

Transgenders are overrepresented among mass shooters, just as black men are vastly overrepresented.

And they are increasing in frequency......the democrat party is setting them off.....

 

[JoeB131]

Transgenders are overrepresented among mass shooters, just as black men are vastly overrepresented.

Nope by your definition, we have 600 a year.
They are about 1% of the incidents.

 

[JoeB131]

We don't have 600 mass public shootings a year...that is a lie....last year and the year before we had a total of 12.....

By your standards, what happened at Lakewood wasn't a "mass shooting". Only two people were injured and the shooter was killed.

Of course, the the common sense standard, which is more than one person hit by a bullet, it does count, as do the 600+ every year involving cisgendered people.

 

[Frankenstein]

Matthew 5:17

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

That means that Jesus came to fulfill all the prophecies concerning the Messiah in the Torah and the rest of the Old Testament (Prophets), and also to fulfill all the laws in the sacrificial system of the Mosaic law.