Orthodox Jews in New York City Burn Israeli Flag Over the War for Greater Israel Currently Focused on Iran

[Woodznutz]

Where will Christ be returning to and to whom? If we usurped God's covenant with Abraham, then God is an Indian giver and Christ will come back to the Vatican, not to your cursed Jews.
Christ is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and will return to the Jews and fight for the Jews. And then He will judge others based on how they treated the Jews.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.​

Peter was the rock that Christ said would build His church. He never called Peter the stone.
Peter started the church in Jerusalem. 3,000 were converted in one day. Peter continued to preach in that church for 15 years before Herod arrested him. He did not set out across Europe on a power trip killing masses of Europeans.

The 'church' that Peter supposedly built didn't appear until 300 years after his death. Constantine chose Peter as the supposed patriarch because of Peter's association with Rome during his ministry and the veneration of him by Christians. When the 'church of Peter' began persecuting the true church, and the Jews, the church fled to the wilderness where it remained for 1260 years until God brought it out of hiding. The "flood" of Revelation 12 were the papal armies, sent to convert or kill supposed heretics. This history is well known.

The gates of hell have certainly had their way with the Roman church over the centuries.

That said Peter was a powerful leader of the early church but his ministry ended with his death. Constantine is credited with founding the Roman church, centuries after Peter's death.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The 'church' that Peter supposedly built didn't appear until 300 years after his death. Constantine chose Peter as the supposed patriarch because of Peter's association with Rome during his ministry. When the 'church of Peter' began persecuting the true church, and the Jews, the church fled to the wilderness where it remained for 1260 years until God brought it out of hiding. The "flood" of Revelation 12 were the papal armies, sent to convert or kill supposed heretics. This history is well known.

The gates of hell have certainly had their way with the Roman church over the centuries.

Clearly Peter did not found a church 300 years after he died. That was Constantine and his mother. Neither church fled anywhere, and Revelation 12 is a future prophesy.

Peter's church started the day God sent the Holy Spirit to the disciples in Jerusalem right after Christ ascended. The fiery tongues were different languages. The disciples went out from the upper room and started speaking in strange dialects and the Jews thought they were drunk. Peter started the church right then and there as 3,000 gave their lives to Christ.

Acts 2: 14-15 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, lifted up his voice, and addressed the crowd: “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and listen carefully to my words. These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It is only the third hour of the day.
^ He addressed north and south in that conversation.

Keep in mind, that those people saw Jesus die and then saw Him back in town 3 days later and were very willing at that point to give their lives over to Christ, the Jewish Rabbi.

What do you consider the "true church" that you think Peter's church went after?

 

[Lisa558]

The Jews are like a sore thumb, they stand out.

^^^ says the poster who insists he’s not antisemitic, and it’s only “Zionists” he can’t stand.

 

[Lisa558]

Jesus condemned Judaism. Why would he include it in the new covenant?

No he didn’t. There were some aspects he wanted to “modernize,” but he loved Judaism. The last thing he wanted was for a new religion to form in his name.

He must be rolling over in his grave.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Judaism isn't the written Torah, it's the "tradition of the elders".
Jesus quoted the prophets and Psalms more than the Torah. The "spirit" of the Torah is the oral Torah, the bondage of the Law.

Old Testament Passages Cited by Jesus Christ - Bible Central

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lol you have exactly backwards. The 'oral torah' is the Babylonian revisionist pharisaic evolution; Moses said the Torah was complete as written. There is no 'Oral Torah'. Jesus rejected Pharisaic legalism.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I love Jews.

..."conservatives too, ask anyone"

 

[Woodznutz]

Where will Christ be returning to and to whom? If we usurped God's covenant with Abraham, then God is an Indian giver and Christ will come back to the Vatican, not to your cursed Jews.
Christ is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and will return to the Jews and fight for the Jews. And then He will judge others based on how they treated the Jews.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.​

Peter was the rock that Christ said would build His church. He never called Peter the stone.
Peter started the church in Jerusalem. 3,000 were converted in one day. Peter continued to preach in that church for 15 years before Herod arrested him. He did not set out across Europe on a power trip killing masses of Europeans.

Thou art Peter (Greek petros, a stone).
Upon this rock (Greek petra, a large rock).

Jesus is referred to as a/the rock too many times in scripture to be mistaken for Peter. I suspect the translators might have tweaked the phraseology of this discourse to fit their belief. They've done it before.

God punishes those He loves and corrects them. He scattered them and He brought them home, never to be removed for their land again.

At times the Jews give God fits. He called them, among other things, a wicked people, always wanting Him to give them a sign. Nevertheless, He loved them enough to take them out of slavery. And a Jewish diaspora prevented them from all being wiped out at once.

While not a curse, the Jews are now in a state of partial hardening of hearts and understanding until the era of the Gentile has come to an end. It is not a curse, but a blessing to save them.

Romans 11:25-26 “I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved”
^
Notice that it is still called Israel. All of it...

The "part" of Israel that was "hardened" was the Jews. The "Gentiles" that Paul mentions are the other Israelites, thus "all Israel" will be saved.

In Paul's day, among the Jews, any who weren't Jewish were called Gentiles, and also referred to as Greeks. Therefore, other Israelites were also called Gentiles. Worse, the Jews called the descendants of the house of Israel living in Samaria, dogs i.e. unclean animals.

 

[Woodznutz]

lol you have exactly backwards. The 'oral torah' is the Babylonian revisionist pharisaic evolution; Moses said the Torah was complete as written. There is no 'Oral Torah'. Jesus rejected Pharisaic legalism.

The oral Torah has since been written down, so of course there's no more a strictly oral Torah.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

how many times do we need to say it? Judaism is the religion. Zionism is support for the state of Israel.

enough times so that even you believe that it isn't because you are antisemitic...jus sayin

 

[The Irish Ram]

Thou art Peter (Greek petros, a stone).
Upon this rock (Greek petra, a large rock).

Jesus is referred to as a/the rock too many times in scripture to be mistaken for Peter. I suspect the translators might have tweaked the phraseology of this discourse to fit their belief. They've done it before.

The "part" of Israel that was "hardened" was the Jews. The "Gentiles" that Paul mentions are the other Israelites, thus "all Israel" will be saved.

In Paul's day, among the Jews, any who weren't Jewish were called Gentiles, and also referred to as Greeks. Therefore, other Israelites were also called Gentiles. Worse, the Jews called the descendants of the house of Israel living in Samaria, dogs i.e. unclean animal

• "Petros" is a Greek word that translates to "rock" in English
• It is often associated with strength and stability.
• The name is famously linked to the Apostle Peter in the New Testament.
• In biblical context, it symbolizes faith and foundation.
• "Petros" is used in various cultures and languages, often retaining its meaning.
• The term has influenced many names and titles throughout history.

Even if Christ referred to Peter as a pebble, it was Peter that Christ gave authority to start Christ's church. And he did. In Jerusalem.

Paul was sent to the Gentiles, Peter stayed with the Jews. The two had disagreements about the circumcision of non Jews so they decided to have Peter preach to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles. We know where Paul went and started churches, none of which were in north or south Israel.

More AI:
Paul primarily focused on spreading the Gospel in Gentile regions rather than Israel.
His missionary journeys mainly took him through modern-day Turkey and Greece.
The churches he established include those in cities like Corinth, Ephesus, and Philippi.
While he visited Jerusalem, it was not to establish a church but to connect with the apostles.
The early church in Israel was primarily led by the apostles, particularly Peter and James.

Christ referred to dogs as anyone not of the Jewish faith. One woman changed His mind.

 

[rosends]

lol you have exactly backwards. The 'oral torah' is the Babylonian revisionist pharisaic evolution; Moses said the Torah was complete as written. There is no 'Oral Torah'. Jesus rejected Pharisaic legalism.

This is false. Not only did he quote from the Talmud, he told his followers to obey Talmudic teaching.

 

[Lisa558]

This is false. Not only did he quote from the Talmud, he told his followers to obey Talmudic teaching.

Jesus taught Hillel’s lesson, otherwise known as the Golden Rule.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Zionism is not the same as Judaism and vice versa, how many times do we need to say it? Judaism is the religion. Zionism is support for the state of Israel

The two go hand in hand. Israel is the Jews homeland. Of course they support their country and wish it to remain. Those who practice Judaism, want their land to continue to be theirs, just as an American wants to keep America, America.

Explain to me why that is so grievous to the anti-Zionists. And has anybody else made that distinction? Hitler? Egypt?Hamas? Do they only kill Zionists?