Original meanings of Liberal and Conservative

[Gracie]

Words such as liberal, liberty, libertarian and libertine all trace their history to the Latin liber, which means "free". One of the first recorded instances of the word liberal occurs in 1375, when it was used to describe the liberal arts in the context of an education desirable for a free-born man.

Middle English: via Old French from Latin liberalis, from liber ‘free (man)’. The original sense was ‘suitable for a free man’, hence ‘suitable for a gentleman’ (one not tied to a trade), surviving in liberal arts . Another early sense ‘generous’ (compare with liberal (sense 4 of the adjective)) gave rise to an obsolete meaning ‘free from restraint’, leading to liberal (sense 1 of the adjective) (late 18th century).

Liberal can be traced back to the Latin word liber (meaning “free”), which is also the root of liberty ("the quality or state of being free") and libertine ("one leading a dissolute life"). However, we did not simply take the word liber and make it into liberal; our modern term for the inhabitants of the leftish side of the political spectrum comes more recently from the Latin liberalis, which means “of or constituting liberal arts, of freedom, of a freedman.”

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Late Middle English (in the sense ‘aiming to preserve’): from late Latin conservativus, from conservat- ‘conserved’, from the verb conservare (see conserve). Current senses date from the mid 19th century.



Definition of conservative
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a: of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism
bConservative: of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism: such as
(1): of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions
(2): PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE
2a: tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONALconservative policies
b: marked by moderation or cautiona conservative estimate
c: marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or mannersa conservative suita conservative architectural style
3Conservative : of, relating to, or practicing Conservative Judaism
4: PRESERVATIVE

conservative
noun
Definition of conservative (Entry 2 of 2)
1a: an adherent or advocate of political conservatism
bConservative : a member or supporter of a conservative political party
2a: one who adheres to traditional methods or views
b: a cautious or discreet person


So....the differences are really not that different except the liberals seem to want to shut up conservative viewpoints, which goes against what the term LIBERAL means.

 

[Asclepias]

Conservatives as you can see have a hard time evolving their thought process. They have a hard time adapting to change.

" tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions "

 

[the other mike]

 

[Moonglow]

Words such as liberal, liberty, libertarian and libertine all trace their history to the Latin liber, which means "free". One of the first recorded instances of the word liberal occurs in 1375, when it was used to describe the liberal arts in the context of an education desirable for a free-born man.

Middle English: via Old French from Latin liberalis, from liber ‘free (man)’. The original sense was ‘suitable for a free man’, hence ‘suitable for a gentleman’ (one not tied to a trade), surviving in liberal arts . Another early sense ‘generous’ (compare with liberal (sense 4 of the adjective)) gave rise to an obsolete meaning ‘free from restraint’, leading to liberal (sense 1 of the adjective) (late 18th century).

Liberal can be traced back to the Latin word liber (meaning “free”), which is also the root of liberty ("the quality or state of being free") and libertine ("one leading a dissolute life"). However, we did not simply take the word liber and make it into liberal; our modern term for the inhabitants of the leftish side of the political spectrum comes more recently from the Latin liberalis, which means “of or constituting liberal arts, of freedom, of a freedman.”

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Late Middle English (in the sense ‘aiming to preserve’): from late Latin conservativus, from conservat- ‘conserved’, from the verb conservare (see conserve). Current senses date from the mid 19th century.



Definition of conservative
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a: of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism
bConservative: of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism: such as
(1): of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions
(2): PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE
2a: tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONALconservative policies
b: marked by moderation or cautiona conservative estimate
c: marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or mannersa conservative suita conservative architectural style
3Conservative : of, relating to, or practicing Conservative Judaism
4: PRESERVATIVE

conservative
noun
Definition of conservative (Entry 2 of 2)
1a: an adherent or advocate of political conservatism
bConservative : a member or supporter of a conservative political party
2a: one who adheres to traditional methods or views
b: a cautious or discreet person


So....the differences are really not that different except the liberals seem to want to shut up conservative viewpoints, which goes against what the term LIBERAL means.

Maybe you should not assume they are liberal in the first place.

 

[Gracie]

Words such as liberal, liberty, libertarian and libertine all trace their history to the Latin liber, which means "free". One of the first recorded instances of the word liberal occurs in 1375, when it was used to describe the liberal arts in the context of an education desirable for a free-born man.

Middle English: via Old French from Latin liberalis, from liber ‘free (man)’. The original sense was ‘suitable for a free man’, hence ‘suitable for a gentleman’ (one not tied to a trade), surviving in liberal arts . Another early sense ‘generous’ (compare with liberal (sense 4 of the adjective)) gave rise to an obsolete meaning ‘free from restraint’, leading to liberal (sense 1 of the adjective) (late 18th century).

Liberal can be traced back to the Latin word liber (meaning “free”), which is also the root of liberty ("the quality or state of being free") and libertine ("one leading a dissolute life"). However, we did not simply take the word liber and make it into liberal; our modern term for the inhabitants of the leftish side of the political spectrum comes more recently from the Latin liberalis, which means “of or constituting liberal arts, of freedom, of a freedman.”

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Late Middle English (in the sense ‘aiming to preserve’): from late Latin conservativus, from conservat- ‘conserved’, from the verb conservare (see conserve). Current senses date from the mid 19th century.



Definition of conservative
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a: of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism
bConservative: of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism: such as
(1): of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions
(2): PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE
2a: tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONALconservative policies
b: marked by moderation or cautiona conservative estimate
c: marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or mannersa conservative suita conservative architectural style
3Conservative : of, relating to, or practicing Conservative Judaism
4: PRESERVATIVE

conservative
noun
Definition of conservative (Entry 2 of 2)
1a: an adherent or advocate of political conservatism
bConservative : a member or supporter of a conservative political party
2a: one who adheres to traditional methods or views
b: a cautious or discreet person


So....the differences are really not that different except the liberals seem to want to shut up conservative viewpoints, which goes against what the term LIBERAL means.

Maybe you should not assume they are liberal in the first place.

When they try to shut me up, my opinion, my written words, my comments...and SAY they are liberal....what is to assume?

 

[Gracie]

I can honestly say that usmb is for the most part true where it says "where your voices count". But not always. Which is why I cannot in good conscience inform others that this place is better than Parler. Twitter is liberal mostly. Conservatives have to tippytoe. That is not “free”), which is also the root of liberty ("the quality or state of being free") .

One side wants to hush the other. And when the other side tries to talk about it, they get:
Conservatives as you can see have a hard time evolving their thought process. They have a hard time adapting to change.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Conservatives as you can see have a hard time evolving their thought process. They have a hard time adapting to change.

If at the end of the day, people are going to do and say whatever makes sense to them, perhaps what you say here can be said about everyone regardless of what group we find them in.

God bless you always!!!

Holly