Opposing Trump

[blackhawk]

If one does not want Tik Tok giving their personal data and information to the Chinese government here is a radical idea don’t use it. I don’t nor am I on X formerly Twitter nor was I on Twitter when it was called that not on Instagram either. Using these apps is your choice no one is forcing you to use it.

 

[Missourian]

Even your guy Turley has some words for commies like you...

"President Trump's statements indicate that he may issue a 90-day extension for TikTok after he is sworn in on January 20th. However, there is a possible problem with such a plan given the language of the Act...

"...The Act refers to a 270-day period from the date of enactment for a foreign adversary controlled application. If period ends on Jan. 19th, it is not clear that the 90-day extension is an option...

"...Moreover, even with a 90-day period, that is not a lot of runway for a corporate sale or a legislative fix. Any way this goes, the status of the company will exist in a weird Zombie statutory state of being among the living dead."

And you didn't include this in your OP for what reason exactly?

To intentionally insinuate that Trump was somehow breaking the law?

If TikTok can be saved, we should do all we can to save it. While we don't want China spying on Americans...we also have Americans that rely on TikTok for their livelihoods.

TikTok ban looms, leaving content creators' livelihoods in jeopardy

TikTok is set to go dark after a Friday Supreme Court decision. It could mean millions in lost earnings for creators.

www.usatoday.com

 

[okfine]

And you didn't include this in your OP for what reason exactly?

To intentionally insinuate that Trump was somehow breaking the law?

If TikTok can be saved, we should do all we can to save it. While we don't want China spying on Americans...we also have Americans that rely on TikTok for their livelihoods.

TikTok ban looms, leaving content creators' livelihoods in jeopardy

TikTok is set to go dark after a Friday Supreme Court decision. It could mean millions in lost earnings for creators.

www.usatoday.com

Why is Trump fighting for the CCP, and why are you?

 

[okfine]

Yet you have 0 to say about a sitting congressman (Swalwell) having a Chinese Spy (Fang Fang) having high dollar donors send checks to his campaign.

You noticed. How perceptive of you.

 

[Leo123]

You noticed. How perceptive of you.

It always has been easy for me to spot a hypocrite.

 

[okfine]

It's always easy to spot a hypocrite.

But but but...

 

[Hellokitty]

There is a stipulation in the law AS WRITTEN BY CONGRESS that the President can allow a 90 grace period.


Why didn't you include that???

CUZ YOU'RE A LYIN' LIB PIECE OF SHIT.

Also why make a law directed only towards TikTok and not any company controlled by China since people are already moving to another Chinese own site.

 

[Missourian]

Why is Trump fighting for the CCP, and why are you?

I just fucking told ya.

First, I don't like the idea of the government shutting down a social media site REGARDLESS of who owns it. I made that clear long before today...even before Trump changed his position. And I've got the receipts to prove it.

May 2023...

Montana becomes first state to completely ban TikTok

I am listening, in the end you want the Govt to step in and save us from ourselves. Someone has to do it. I challenge you to watch some of the most popular/trending folks on YouTube that today's youth watch the most. You will be floored.

www.usmessageboard.com

Because I, unlike others (cough cough), am my own man and make my own decisions even when my party, or the leader I choose to support disagrees.

Trump reverses stance on TikTok - where are USMB critics?

Where will I go to see a small dog shoot balloons with hair ties?

www.usmessageboard.com

Second, the ban also hurts Americans who built a following on TikTok...investing years of effort to create a career that pays their bills for themselves and their employees and all of their families. If we can save TikTok for them, it's worth 90 days of extension to try.

Lastly, as blackhawk rightly commented... the newsflash that China is collecting data from TikTok users is as widely disseminated as humanly possible at this point. Anyone using TikTok is doing so informed of this fact. Caveat emptor.

 

[okfine]

I just fucking told ya.

First, I don't like the idea of the government shutting down a social media site REGARDLESS of who owns it. I made that clear long before today...even before Trump changed his position. And I've got the receipts to prove it.

May 2023...

Montana becomes first state to completely ban TikTok

I am listening, in the end you want the Govt to step in and save us from ourselves. Someone has to do it. I challenge you to watch some of the most popular/trending folks on YouTube that today's youth watch the most. You will be floored.

www.usmessageboard.com

Because I, unlike others (cough cough), am my own man and make my own decisions even when my party, or the leader I choose to support disagrees.

Trump reverses stance on TikTok - where are USMB critics?

Where will I go to see a small dog shoot balloons with hair ties?

www.usmessageboard.com

Second, the ban also hurts Americans who built a following on TikTok...investing years of effort to create a career that pays their bills for themselves and their employees and all of their families. If we can save TikTok for them, it's worth 90 days of extension to try.

Lastly, as blackhawk rightly commented... the newsflash that China is collecting data from TikTok users is as widely disseminated as humanly possible at this point. Anyone using TikTok is doing so informed of this fact. Caveat emptor.

You don't like commies but you whine when Trump does. You're lame, ya hoosier.

 

[Leo123]

I just fucking told ya.

First, I don't like the idea of the government shutting down a social media site REGARDLESS of who owns it. I made that clear long before today...even before Trump changed his position. And I've got the receipts to prove it.

May 2023...

Montana becomes first state to completely ban TikTok

I am listening, in the end you want the Govt to step in and save us from ourselves. Someone has to do it. I challenge you to watch some of the most popular/trending folks on YouTube that today's youth watch the most. You will be floored.

www.usmessageboard.com

Because I, unlike others (cough cough), am my own man and make my own decisions even when my party, or the leader I choose to support disagrees.

Trump reverses stance on TikTok - where are USMB critics?

Where will I go to see a small dog shoot balloons with hair ties?

www.usmessageboard.com

Second, the ban also hurts Americans who built a following on TikTok...investing years of effort to create a career that pays their bills for themselves and their employees and all of their families. If we can save TikTok for them, it's worth 90 days of extension to try.

Lastly, as blackhawk rightly commented... the newsflash that China is collecting data from TikTok users is as widely disseminated as humanly possible at this point. Anyone using TikTok is doing so informed of this fact. Caveat emptor.

Well, the 'internet' is like a black hole. Typical search engines like Google and the program search blocks in Windows and Safari only deal with the thin information layer of the internet. There are much deeper and darker places there. I don't think it matters much what program you're using, nothing is that secure.

That being said, IF Tik-Tok or any other program can be found giving Federal secret, restricted, classified, etc. files away they should be dealt with for America's safety. But you have to have proof. In any case, IMO, anything in digital format is very susceptible to being stolen, dycrypted, etc.

 

[Leo123]

But but but...

Falsely charged, biased judge, biased jury. "give me the man and I'll give you the crime" Democrat/Marxist charges. They are fake. They have no real evidence. They had to imply intent with their made up charges.

 

[evenokeel]

When Congress bans TikTok and SCOTUS says go with that also, what do you get?

Dysfunction, but Law and order will be upheld. China can kiss it goodbye from the USA.

"Trump ally House Speaker Mike Johnson appeared on NBC's Meet The Press Sunday where he declared, "We will enforce the law" on the ban passed by Congress in the interest of national security"

"But that's not all, according to a report from NBC"

"Shortly before Johnson's comments,Sens. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., and Pete Ricketts, R-Neb., broke with Trump, too, celebrating the app’s ban that went into effect Sunday," the report states.

"Cotton would later threaten "ruinous liability" for any company that followed President-elect Donald Trump's instructions by restoring access to the TikTok app after legislation banned it"

"Any company that hosts, distributes, services, or otherwise facilitates communist-controlled TikTok could face hundreds of billions of dollars of ruinous liability under the law, not just from DOJ, but also under securities law, shareholder lawsuits, and state AGs. Think about it," the lawmaker said at the time"

Now, will the transactional Trump have to pay back the Byte Dance guy?

'Pushing back': Republican Senators reportedly just 'broke with Trump' on a key issue

Donald Trump has enjoyed a strong hold over the Republican party, but his latest move has led multiple GOP senators to "break with Trump," according to a report.Jonathan Turley, a law professor and Fox News contributor who regularly champions all things Trump, Sunday wasn't so sure about the...

www.rawstory.com

The confusion surrounding TikTok is undeniable. It’s caught between accusations of foreign interference, national security risks, and its role as a cultural phenomenon. But I believe that this mega social media site will eventually be bought out by American concerns. In my opinion, this isn’t just a random possibility—it’s a calculated move that will ultimately benefit a small but powerful group, including Trump and his allies. What might look like a patriotic effort to secure the platform from foreign influence could actually be the first step toward consolidating immense power in the social media landscape.

TikTok’s potential is staggering. With over a billion active users worldwide, including a dominant presence among younger demographics, it’s a platform that no one in the media world can afford to ignore. I believe that Trump and his allies—figures like Musk, Bezos, and others with ties to massive tech empires—are already eyeing TikTok’s value. The idea of banning TikTok only to reopen it under American ownership strikes me as a clever way to position these players as saviors of national security while also securing an unprecedented opportunity for profit and influence.

If this happens, I don’t think TikTok will be allowed to stand on its own as a direct competitor to platforms like Twitter, Facebook, or Truth Social. Instead, I believe it will be integrated into a larger network of platforms, running side by side with these giants or even being partially absorbed into them. Imagine TikTok’s vibrant user base and cutting-edge technology working seamlessly alongside Twitter’s communication reach, Facebook’s massive global network, and Truth Social’s niche following. This isn’t just about keeping TikTok operational—it’s about creating a powerhouse conglomerate that dominates the social media landscape.

The appeal of TikTok isn’t just its users—it’s its technology. The platform’s algorithm is arguably the most advanced in the industry, capable of delivering hyper-personalized content that keeps users engaged for hours. I believe this technology is a major prize for Trump and his allies. If they gain control, they could use TikTok’s algorithm to fine-tune their own platforms, amplifying narratives that align with their interests and shaping public opinion on a scale we’ve never seen before. This kind of influence could be game-changing, both in terms of politics and business.

Financially, the potential here is enormous. TikTok generates billions in revenue through advertising, partnerships, and sales. I think that owning TikTok wouldn’t just be about controlling the platform itself—it would be about using its success to fuel other ventures. Whether it’s Musk’s ambitions with Twitter, Bezos’s interests in media, or Trump’s efforts to grow Truth Social, the revenue streams and user engagement from TikTok could bolster all of these platforms. It wouldn’t be about letting TikTok overshadow any of them; it would be about integrating TikTok in a way that lifts the entire ecosystem, creating a media empire that’s stronger together.

What concerns me most about this scenario is the level of control it would give a small group of people. With TikTok integrated into this larger network of platforms, I believe it would create a kind of monopoly over social media discourse. This kind of consolidation would make it easier for these owners to control narratives, suppress dissent, and steer public opinion in ways that serve their own interests. It’s not just about owning a platform—it’s about controlling the very nature of communication in the digital age.

There are, of course, ethical questions that come with this. I think it’s worth asking what happens to competition when one group controls so much of the social media landscape. What happens to privacy when platforms with this level of reach are in the hands of politically motivated individuals? And what happens to the diversity of voices when dissenting opinions could be drowned out by the sheer scale of this kind of operation? These are serious concerns that, in my opinion, we can’t afford to ignore.

 

[YoursTruly]

When Congress bans TikTok and SCOTUS says go with that also, what do you get?

Dysfunction, but Law and order will be upheld. China can kiss it goodbye from the USA.

"Trump ally House Speaker Mike Johnson appeared on NBC's Meet The Press Sunday where he declared, "We will enforce the law" on the ban passed by Congress in the interest of national security"

"But that's not all, according to a report from NBC"

"Shortly before Johnson's comments,Sens. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., and Pete Ricketts, R-Neb., broke with Trump, too, celebrating the app’s ban that went into effect Sunday," the report states.

"Cotton would later threaten "ruinous liability" for any company that followed President-elect Donald Trump's instructions by restoring access to the TikTok app after legislation banned it"

"Any company that hosts, distributes, services, or otherwise facilitates communist-controlled TikTok could face hundreds of billions of dollars of ruinous liability under the law, not just from DOJ, but also under securities law, shareholder lawsuits, and state AGs. Think about it," the lawmaker said at the time"

Now, will the transactional Trump have to pay back the Byte Dance guy?

'Pushing back': Republican Senators reportedly just 'broke with Trump' on a key issue

Donald Trump has enjoyed a strong hold over the Republican party, but his latest move has led multiple GOP senators to "break with Trump," according to a report.Jonathan Turley, a law professor and Fox News contributor who regularly champions all things Trump, Sunday wasn't so sure about the...

www.rawstory.com

Cotton is my senator. And he's a weak RINO, who caves to everything. Especially his lobbyist's will. Plus talking is all he can do now that the law has been passed and the 90 day extension is in place.
If he hasn't already, he'll crawl back into his little hole and snuggle up to his lobbyist funded blanket and binky.