One-sided presentation of information in Western media about Ukraine conflict

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Western media position themselves as unbiased, but in reality, they hush up information that is unfavorable to the West.

For example, when reporting on the Ukrainian conflict, Western media never report on the background of this conflict, namely that during the so-called Euromaidan - that is during protests from November 2013 to February 2014 in Ukraine - protesters at a certain point began to burn and kill.
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The silence surrounding these violent actions is due to the fact that these protests began allegedly because of the delay in signing an Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU in November 2013.

But no one burns and kills because of the delay in signing such an insignificant document. Georgia and Moldova, which did sign such agreements with the EU in November 2013, have still not become EU members; European politicians are still telling Moldovans and Georgians about the European Neighborhood Policy, etc., but these politicians are in no hurry to accept them into the EU.

It was the arsons and murders committed by protesters that caused the Russian government to worry about the fate of ethnic Russians, who make up the majority of the Crimea's population, and prompted the Russian government to accept the Crimea into the Russian Federation.

When we talk about the background of the Ukraine conflict, we can also mention that Western media are silent about the unconstitutional removal of the then legally elected President of Ukraine V. Yanukovych from power in February 2014.

Western media like to recall the fighting in Donbass that began in the spring of 2014, but they do not mention that these fighting began after the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic had been proclaimed in Donbass, declaring their independence from Ukraine.

And if the people in Kyiv could unconstitutionally remove the legally elected President from power, why did the people in Donbass - A. Zakharchenko, D. Pushilin, I. Plotnitsky, L. Pasechnik etc. - not have the right to proclaim Independent Republics in Donbass?

However, the Kyiv authorities sent an army to Donbass and fighting began there.

All of the above – the Crimea and Donbass – led to the beginning of the Russian Federation’s Special Military Operation in Ukraine.

The Western media inform about this Operation by hushing up some facts too. For example, the fact that the Kiev authorities had threatened Russia with military measures to “reintegrate the Crimea into Ukraine” is being hushed up; see the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

Western media also talk a lot about the allegedly large number of civilians who died in the Ukrainian city of Bucha during the presence of Russian troops in this city in March 2022. But these media do not mention that the Russian government has repeatedly asked through the UN Security Council to provide lists of these allegedly killed people.
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Last month, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov spoke about this at a press conference in New York:

In order to somehow explain what happened in Bucha, we asked for the names of people whose bodies were shown in BBC reports, but no one even intended to give us those lists.

see the official website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.

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And at the end of the press conference, an official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry asked one of the Western journalists:

Evelyn, we know about your experience. You are a prominent journalist. Could you help us get the list of persons allegedly killed in Bucha? Even the UN Secretary-General couldn't help us.

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The UN has so far not confirmed Kyiv's claims of "hundreds of victims in Bucha"

At the end of February 2022, the Russian government launched a military operation in Ukraine. One of the main goals of this operation was declared to be the denazification of Ukraine; see above the photographs of Ukrainian soldiers from an investigation by the French newspaper Le Monde.

And in early April 2022, Ukrainian authorities invited Western journalists to the Ukrainian town of Bucha and showed them the corpses of civilians allegedly killed there during the presence of the Russian army from March 4 to March 30, 2022.

Throughout the spring and summer of 2022, Ukrainian data on the number of "victims in Bucha" steadily increased, and by early August, the figure stood at 458; see below the quote from the deputy mayor of Bucha's press conference with Western journalists:​

Во время российской оккупации города Буча под Киевом погибли 458 мирных жителей... Около 50 трупов до сих пор находится в моргах как неопознанные или невостребованные родственниками.​

During the Russian occupation of the town of Bucha near Kyiv, 458 civilians were killed... About 50 bodies are still in morgues as unidentified or unclaimed by relatives.

By making such sweeping statements about the situation in Bucha to Western media, the Ukrainian authorities clearly did not expect anyone to verify these statements.
However, in December 2022, Bucha was visited by UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk, who presented his report on the situation there on December 15, 2022. His report, issued four months after the Ukrainian authorities' statements, contained very different figures; see the quote below from the official UN website:​

Bucha was a town… where we documented the deaths of 73 civilians (54 men, 16 women, 2 boys and 1 girl) between March 4 and 30.​

That is, the UN estimation of death toll was 6.2 times lower than the Ukrainian government's figures. And the UN High Commissioner's report did not specify the cause of death of these 73 civilians: whether they were shot at close range or killed by shrapnel from Ukrainian shells, etc.
No other UN data on documented cases of civilian deaths in the town of Bucha could be found.

The significant discrepancy between the figures presented by the Ukrainian authorities and the figures released by the UN can be explained by the fact that the Ukrainian authorities included in their lists of “Bucha victims” people who were not victims at all.
It's possible that in April 2022, the Ukrainians repeated the same trick they pulled during the Euromaidan in February 2014, when they brought in dozens of corpses - those who died of natural causes, in traffic accidents, etc. - and presented these persons as "victims of the Euromaidan". This lie about "victims of the Euromaidan" was later refuted by Ph.D. in Law O. Lukash, the former Minister of Justice of Ukraine; see here.

The Ukrainian authorities have never published a complete list of "Bucha victims," citing confidentiality restrictions. However, this did not prevent the Ukrainian authorities from announcing the names of approximately 80 allegedly killed civilians in 2023, in the presence of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy (see video below). Among these allegedly killed civilians was Oleksandr Blagodatny. However, according to information published online by his nephew, Blagodatny served in the territorial defense unit, which is part of the Ukrainian army. Therefore, this individual was not a civilian.

And the absence of complete lists of “victims of Bucha” makes it impossible to verify how many people were included in these lists who were in fact servicemen in the Ukrainian army.
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I would like to add to my previous message about the “victims from Bucha”.

Information about these "victims" began to be disseminated by Ukrainian officials in April 2022, when these officials believed that no one would verify their claims.

But it turned out that their statements were still being checked.

For this reason, the Ukrainian parliament was forced to dismiss L. Denisova (see photo above) from her post as the Commissioner for Human Rights in Ukraine at the end of May 2022; below is a quote from the corresponding material from the German state news agency Deutsche Welle:​

Заместитель главы Регламентного комитета парламента (Украины) Павел Фролов отметил, что ... Денисова излишне концентрировала медийную работу на многочисленных деталях «сексуальных преступлений, совершенных неестественным способом» и изнасилованиях детей на оккупированных территориях, которые не подтверждались доказательствами, что лишь вредило Украине и отвлекало внимание мировых СМИ от реальных потребностей.​

Deputy Chairman of the Parliament's Rules Committee (of Ukraine) Pavlo Frolov noted that... Denisova focused her media coverage excessively on numerous details of "sexual crimes committed in an unnatural manner" and child rapes in the occupied territories, although these claims were not supported by any evidence, and that only harmed Ukraine and distracted the world media from real problems.​

 

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An Italian journalist on his visit to Donetsk

The Italian website controinformazione.info recently published an article by Italian journalist Eliseo Bertolasi about his visit to Donetsk for the International Film Festival "Time of Our Heroes" held there this month. Below is the main information from the article.

In 2014, residents of Donbas rejected the coup d'état - in which neo-Nazis played a prominent role - in Ukraine. Therefore, the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics were proclaimed.
The Kyiv authorities attempted to retake Donbas by force, and the region has been in a state of war since April 2014. Therefore, even ordinary life here requires heroism.

This fully applies to Donetsk, although the Russian army has now significantly moved the frontline away from the city itself, and Ukrainian shelling of city blocks with artillery and rocket launchers has become much less frequent. However, Ukrainian drones can still reach the city, significantly limiting its recovery efforts. The city also faces problems with drinking water, as the Ukrainian authorities have cut off its supply. Therefore, numerous reservoirs have been installed throughout the city, regularly supplied with drinking water from tanker trucks.

Last month, a missile hit a children's clinic (see photo below). And this isn't an isolated incident – schools, hospitals, stores, churches, markets, and buses are often targets of Ukrainian strikes.​

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However, life goes on as usual - mothers walk with their children in numerous city parks, people work, travel by public transport, by car, and there is moderate traffic on the main streets.​

 

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Western media position themselves as unbiased, but in reality, they hush up information that is unfavorable to the West.

For example, when reporting on the Ukrainian conflict, Western media never report on the background of this conflict, namely that during the so-called Euromaidan - that is during protests from November 2013 to February 2014 in Ukraine - protesters at a certain point began to burn and kill.
​

Spoiler

The silence surrounding these violent actions is due to the fact that these protests began allegedly because of the delay in signing an Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU in November 2013.

But no one burns and kills because of the delay in signing such an insignificant document. Georgia and Moldova, which did sign such agreements with the EU in November 2013, have still not become EU members; European politicians are still telling Moldovans and Georgians about the European Neighborhood Policy, etc., but these politicians are in no hurry to accept them into the EU.

It was the arsons and murders committed by protesters that caused the Russian government to worry about the fate of ethnic Russians, who make up the majority of the Crimea's population, and prompted the Russian government to accept the Crimea into the Russian Federation.

When we talk about the background of the Ukraine conflict, we can also mention that Western media are silent about the unconstitutional removal of the then legally elected President of Ukraine V. Yanukovych from power in February 2014.

Western media like to recall the fighting in Donbass that began in the spring of 2014, but they do not mention that these fighting began after the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic had been proclaimed in Donbass, declaring their independence from Ukraine.

And if the people in Kyiv could unconstitutionally remove the legally elected President from power, why did the people in Donbass - A. Zakharchenko, D. Pushilin, I. Plotnitsky, L. Pasechnik etc. - not have the right to proclaim Independent Republics in Donbass?

However, the Kyiv authorities sent an army to Donbass and fighting began there.

All of the above – the Crimea and Donbass – led to the beginning of the Russian Federation’s Special Military Operation in Ukraine.

The Western media inform about this Operation by hushing up some facts too. For example, the fact that the Kiev authorities had threatened Russia with military measures to “reintegrate the Crimea into Ukraine” is being hushed up; see the thread Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

Western media also talk a lot about the allegedly large number of civilians who died in the Ukrainian city of Bucha during the presence of Russian troops in this city in March 2022. But these media do not mention that the Russian government has repeatedly asked through the UN Security Council to provide lists of these allegedly killed people.
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Last month, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov spoke about this at a press conference in New York:

see the official website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.

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And at the end of the press conference, an official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry asked one of the Western journalists:

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100 years ago, the head of the first Ukrainian republic was executed for the murder of civilians

First, a brief historical overview. After the collapse of the Russian Empire, the so-called Ukrainian People's Republic was formed on part of the territory of present-day Ukraine. This republic was led by Symon Petliura (see the photo above) from the beginning of 1919.

Instead of building an independent democratic Ukraine, Ukrainian nationalists began physically exterminating members of national minorities including Jews.

Decades before the proclamation of the “final solution to the Jewish question” in Nazi Germany, practically the same policy was carried out in Ukraine under the pretext of fighting against “Jewish Bolshevism.”

The influential website opendemocracy.net states the following:​

In March 1919, Petliura visited the city of Zhytomyr while a pogrom was in full swing, and did not stop it. While there, he sent a telegram describing how in Zhytomyr the “pillaging, banditry, brutality and shamelessness” with which the Bolsheviks had ruled Ukraine had turned the Ukrainian people against “these new pillager Muscovites and Jews”.​

However, the current Ukrainian authorities are not publishing the Ukrainian text of this telegram, and this fact is very typical for them.

The policy pursued toward national minorities was one of the reasons why even a significant number of Ukrainians turned their backs on the leaders of the so-called Ukrainian People's Republic, who were forced to flee Ukraine as early as 1920. Petliura, in particular, settled in Paris.

Exactly one hundred years ago, on May 25, 1926, Sholem Schwarzbard, a Jewish emigrant from Ukraine, whose entire family perished during the pogroms in Ukraine, shot and killed S. Petliura with a pistol on a Parisian street.

S. Schwarzbard voluntarily surrendered to the French police and explained that he had executed Petliura for the death of his loved ones. The investigation and trial lasted a year and a half, during which numerous documents and testimonies were presented confirming Petliura's involvement in the mass murder of civilians. The opposing side attempted to present evidence in support of Petliura's innocence, but the court found it unreliable.

Therefore, in November 1927, S. Schwarzbard was acquitted by the French court and released.

Naturally, in today's Ukraine, both the motives that prompted S. Schwarzbard to shoot Petliura and the legitimacy of the French court's decision are completely denied. Just as a hundred years ago, Ukrainians are attempting to present various falsified documents as evidence of their innocence.

In modern Ukraine, streets in a number of Ukrainian cities - including the Ukrainian capital Kyiv - are named in honor of Petliura.​

 

[Litwin]

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100 years ago, the head of the first Ukrainian republic was executed for the murder of civilians

First, a brief historical overview. After the collapse of the Russian Empire, the so-called Ukrainian People's Republic was formed on part of the territory of present-day Ukraine. This republic was led by Symon Petliura (see the photo above) from the beginning of 1919.

Instead of building an independent democratic Ukraine, Ukrainian nationalists began physically exterminating members of national minorities including Jews.

Decades before the proclamation of the “final solution to the Jewish question” in Nazi Germany, practically the same policy was carried out in Ukraine under the pretext of fighting against “Jewish Bolshevism.”

The influential website opendemocracy.net states the following:


However, the current Ukrainian authorities are not publishing the Ukrainian text of this telegram, and this fact is very typical for them.

The policy pursued toward national minorities was one of the reasons why even a significant number of Ukrainians turned their backs on the leaders of the so-called Ukrainian People's Republic, who were forced to flee Ukraine as early as 1920. Petliura, in particular, settled in Paris.

Exactly one hundred years ago, on May 25, 1926, Sholem Schwarzbard, a Jewish emigrant from Ukraine, whose entire family perished during the pogroms in Ukraine, shot and killed S. Petliura with a pistol on a Parisian street.

S. Schwarzbard voluntarily surrendered to the French police and explained that he had executed Petliura for the death of his loved ones. The investigation and trial lasted a year and a half, during which numerous documents and testimonies were presented confirming Petliura's involvement in the mass murder of civilians. The opposing side attempted to present evidence in support of Petliura's innocence, but the court found it unreliable.

Therefore, in November 1927, S. Schwarzbard was acquitted by the French court and released.

Naturally, in today's Ukraine, both the motives that prompted S. Schwarzbard to shoot Petliura and the legitimacy of the French court's decision are completely denied. Just as a hundred years ago, Ukrainians are attempting to present various falsified documents as evidence of their innocence.

In modern Ukraine, streets in a number of Ukrainian cities - including the Ukrainian capital Kyiv - are named in honor of Petliura.​

cope , mongoloid (as K. Marx noted) ho. I´ll do it to you as well one day

 

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