One of these two men won the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Captain Caveman]

And the other didn’t.

One was cheered, the other violated the Constitution and must be impeached!


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Good ole Lefties. This morning I was researching bombs dropped by president and the disingenuous bullshit from the Left was epic. So Trump inherits Obama's wars and so they claim Trump dropped more bombs. I thought our UK Lefties were filthy lying arseholes but US Lefties pip them at the post.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I thought you did, or would not have brought it up. I do think trump cares.
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Sure, let's go with the ultra-biased MSM bullshit NARRATIVES.
GTFOH

 

[Edgetho]

Good ole Lefties. This morning I was researching bombs dropped by president and the disingenuous bullshit from the Left was epic. So Trump inherits Obama's wars and so they claim Trump dropped more bombs. I thought our UK Lefties were filthy lying arseholes but US Lefties pip them at the post.

It's not even close. American dimocrap scum are the lowest form of life to ever exist on the Planet. It is the most disgusting political party in human history.

Believe it. It's not even close. At least the NSDAP had a reason to be upset. As did Russia's communist party and Mao and all the rest.

The USA is the most Free, the richest, the most diverse, offers the most opportunity to everyone, the most giving and the most caring country the world has ever known

But dimocrap scum want to tear it down. Why? Simple, they're scum. All they know is destruction. And lies. And all they want is power. They want power for the sake of power. They have no idea what to do with it, no clue how to improve people's lives.... All they want is power. They are a sick, disturbed, mentally ill group of scumbags.

They don't care about America or Americans, they side with every Piece of Shit that comes down the road if they think it will give them a leg up. They side with the murdering regime in Iran, they back illegal alien murderers, rapsists and human traffickers knowing how much harm those people do.

And they don't care. All they know is that those scumbags are trying to hurt the current power structure in America. That's all they care about. They would happily destroy America if it meant they could be back in power.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. Period

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's not even close. American dimocrap scum are the lowest form of life to ever exist on the Planet. It is the most disgusting political party in human history.

Believe it. It's not even close. At least the NSDAP had a reason to be upset. As did Russia's communist party and Mao and all the rest.

The USA is the most Free, the richest, the most diverse, offers the most opportunity to everyone, the most giving and the most caring country the world has ever known

But dimocrap scum want to tear it down. Why? Simple, they're scum. All they know is destruction. And lies. And all they want is power. They want power for the sake of power. They have no idea what to do with it, no clue how to improve people's lives.... All they want is power. They are a sick, disturbed, mentally ill group of scumbags.

They don't care about America or Americans, they side with every Piece of Shit that comes down the road if they think it will give them a leg up. They side with the murdering regime in Iran, they back illegal alien murderers, rapsists and human traffickers knowing how much harm those people do.

And they don't care. All they know is that those scumbags are trying to hurt the current power structure in America. That's all they care about. They would happily destroy America if it meant they could be back in power.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. Period

There's not one bit that I could disagree with there.

The Democrats should rename their party to the Deplorables.

 

[Votto]

Arafat...Kissinger....Mandela....

Right, winning the Nobel Peace Prize actually means the opposite of what it is supposed to mean

That is the irony of it all.

If it were me, I would not want to win the damned thing so as not to be grouped with all those people of ilk.

I really think Trump does not want it either, for that very reason.

Actually, I think when they gave it to Obama it was payment for him to later go bomb the hell out of Libya to do Europe's dirty work for them cuz they wanted him gone yesterday!!

 

[Dragonlady]

And the other didn’t.

One was cheered, the other violated the Constitution and must be impeached!


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Obama dropped bombs in UN missions in existing wars. Trump started a war.

 

[JLW]

Actually, the OP’s meme is misleading.

During Trump’s first term, Trump dropped 20,650 bombs. Obama’s bombing numbers of 26, 171 are for TWO terms. Trump was a far more prolific bomber than Obama.

Donald Trump Is Dropping Bombs at Unprecedented Levels

The candidate who once warned America about Hillary Clinton's hawkishness is turning into a war machine.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[Dragonlady]

It's not even close. American dimocrap scum are the lowest form of life to ever exist on the Planet. It is the most disgusting political party in human history.

Believe it. It's not even close. At least the NSDAP had a reason to be upset. As did Russia's communist party and Mao and all the rest.

The USA is the most Free, the richest, the most diverse, offers the most opportunity to everyone, the most giving and the most caring country the world has ever known

But dimocrap scum want to tear it down. Why? Simple, they're scum. All they know is destruction. And lies. And all they want is power. They want power for the sake of power. They have no idea what to do with it, no clue how to improve people's lives.... All they want is power. They are a sick, disturbed, mentally ill group of scumbags.

They don't care about America or Americans, they side with every Piece of Shit that comes down the road if they think it will give them a leg up. They side with the murdering regime in Iran, they back illegal alien murderers, rapsists and human traffickers knowing how much harm those people do.

And they don't care. All they know is that those scumbags are trying to hurt the current power structure in America. That's all they care about. They would happily destroy America if it meant they could be back in power.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. Period

Here is your problem:

"The USA is the most Free, the richest, the most diverse, offers the most opportunity to everyone, the most giving and the most caring country the world has ever known".

NOTHING IN THIS PARAGRAPH IS EVEN CLOSE TO TRUE. Not by any measure and you never have been.

When the Constitution was written, nearly 20% of the USA population was enslaved. You enshrined SLAVERY in your Constitution. The only nation in the world that has done so.

"Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1, is one of a handful of provisions in the original Constitution related to slavery, though it does not use the word “slave.” This Clause prohibited the federal government from limiting the importation of “persons” (understood at the time to mean primarily enslaved African persons) where the existing state governments saw fit to allow it, until some twenty years after the Constitution took effect. It was a compromise between Southern states, where slavery was pivotal to the economy, and states where the abolition of slavery had been accomplished or was contemplated. "

Interpretation: The Slave Trade Clause | Constitution Center

Interpretations of The Slave Trade Clause by constitutional scholars

constitutioncenter.org

When slavery was struck down, you had Jim Crow segregation for 100 years. Blacks were "free" to go to black churches and schools, and to sit at the back of the bus, and take the jobs that white people didn't want.

Land of opportunity??? Only if you're BORN rich.

America is no longer the ‘land of opportunity’

When the governors of Texas, Arizona and Florida took advantage of the welcoming traditions provided by sanctuary cities, it was meant to get rid of an unwanted problem.

www.daytonatimes.com

Client Challenge

www.ft.com

Gifting and caring??? Not in this lifetime. The USA is the LEAST caring nation in the first world. No universal health care, no family or maternity leave. You don't even have mandated vacations for workers.

America's Poor Are Worse Off Than Elsewhere - Confronting Poverty

It is certainly true that if we compare the U.S. to countries in sub-Saharan Africa, physical poverty in the U.S. is obviously less extreme. The United States does not have the widespread famine and severe stunting of children that is sometimes found in extremely poor countries. However, most...

confrontingpoverty.org

The Conservative Myth of a Social Safety Net Built on Charity

The right yearns for an era when churches and local organizations took care of society's weakest—an era that never existed and can't exist today.

www.theatlantic.com

U.S. poverty rates higher, safety net weaker than in peer countries

Poverty rates in the United States increased over the 2000s, a trend exacerbated by the Great Recession and its aftermath.

www.epi.org

WHEN EVERYTHING YOU POST IS LIES AND BULLSHIT, YOU HAVE A HELL OF NERVE CALLING ANYONE "SCUM OF THE EARTH".

THE USA IS THE HELLHOLE OF THE FIRST WORLD.

 

[norwegen]

Here is your problem:

"The USA is the most Free, the richest, the most diverse, offers the most opportunity to everyone, the most giving and the most caring country the world has ever known".

NOTHING IN THIS PARAGRAPH IS EVEN CLOSE TO TRUE. Not by any measure and you never have been.

When the Constitution was written, nearly 20% of the USA population was enslaved. You enshrined SLAVERY in your Constitution. The only nation in the world that has done so.

"Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1, is one of a handful of provisions in the original Constitution related to slavery, though it does not use the word “slave.” This Clause prohibited the federal government from limiting the importation of “persons” (understood at the time to mean primarily enslaved African persons) where the existing state governments saw fit to allow it, until some twenty years after the Constitution took effect. It was a compromise between Southern states, where slavery was pivotal to the economy, and states where the abolition of slavery had been accomplished or was contemplated. "

Interpretation: The Slave Trade Clause | Constitution Center

Interpretations of The Slave Trade Clause by constitutional scholars

constitutioncenter.org

When slavery was struck down, you had Jim Crow segregation for 100 years. Blacks were "free" to go to black churches and schools, and to sit at the back of the bus, and take the jobs that white people didn't want.

Land of opportunity??? Only if you're BORN rich.

America is no longer the ‘land of opportunity’

When the governors of Texas, Arizona and Florida took advantage of the welcoming traditions provided by sanctuary cities, it was meant to get rid of an unwanted problem.

www.daytonatimes.com

Client Challenge

www.ft.com

Gifting and caring??? Not in this lifetime. The USA is the LEAST caring nation in the first world. No universal health care, no family or maternity leave. You don't even have mandated vacations for workers.

America's Poor Are Worse Off Than Elsewhere - Confronting Poverty

It is certainly true that if we compare the U.S. to countries in sub-Saharan Africa, physical poverty in the U.S. is obviously less extreme. The United States does not have the widespread famine and severe stunting of children that is sometimes found in extremely poor countries. However, most...

confrontingpoverty.org

The Conservative Myth of a Social Safety Net Built on Charity

The right yearns for an era when churches and local organizations took care of society's weakest—an era that never existed and can't exist today.

www.theatlantic.com

U.S. poverty rates higher, safety net weaker than in peer countries

Poverty rates in the United States increased over the 2000s, a trend exacerbated by the Great Recession and its aftermath.

www.epi.org

WHEN EVERYTHING YOU POST IS LIES AND BULLSHIT, YOU HAVE A HELL OF NERVE CALLING ANYONE "SCUM OF THE EARTH".

THE USA IS THE HELLHOLE OF THE FIRST WORLD.

The Constitution includes two provisions that would discourage and eventually dismantle slavery. The slave-holding states could not expect proportionate representation in the House when such large segments of their populations were not eligible to participate in the voting franchise (U.S. Const. Art. I, s 2, cl. 3), and the Congress could prohibit the importation of slaves in due time and tax it at any time (U.S. Const. Art. I, S 9, cl. 1).

These seemed a further assurance that social and economic classes would not be inherited. Although manumission remained elusive for nearly eight more decades, it should not have. “We have had justice enough in our Constitution from the beginning to have made slavery impossible,” Frederick Douglass said. “The trouble never was in the Constitution, but in the administration of the Constitution” (Peter C. Meyers, The Progressive Revolution in Politics and Political Science: Transforming the American Regime, John Marini and Ken Masugi, editors (Rowan & Littlefield Publishers, Inc., 2005), Kindle e-book).

The constitution did not enshrine slavery; it provided for its eventual dismantling. And yea, Jim Crow and the Democrats: like a hand and glove.

No universal health care? So? Robbing Peter to pay Paul is not a hallmark of a caring nation, and certainly not a free nation.

You’re rather naïve.

 

[citygator]

And the other didn’t.

One was cheered, the other violated the Constitution and must be impeached!


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[hadit]

Obama dropped bombs in UN missions in existing wars. Trump started a war.

Actually, he didn't. At the most, he joined a war already in progress. Or are you pretending nothing happened before he made the decision?

 

[hadit]

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Hey, why DID he win that prize anyway? He certainly did nothing to earn it before he got it and regularly violated the whole idea behind it after.

 

[jc456]

I thought you did, or would not have brought it up. I do think trump cares.
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The OP was quite clear what his thoughts were. It was fking obvious at that.

Trump is Trump. Why would he be anything but Trump? You still can't fking figure that one little thing is!

 

[Dragonlady]

The Constitution includes two provisions that would discourage and eventually dismantle slavery. The slave-holding states could not expect proportionate representation in the House when such large segments of their populations were not eligible to participate in the voting franchise (U.S. Const. Art. I, s 2, cl. 3), and the Congress could prohibit the importation of slaves in due time and tax it at any time (U.S. Const. Art. I, S 9, cl. 1).

These seemed a further assurance that social and economic classes would not be inherited. Although manumission remained elusive for nearly eight more decades, it should not have. “We have had justice enough in our Constitution from the beginning to have made slavery impossible,” Frederick Douglass said. “The trouble never was in the Constitution, but in the administration of the Constitution” (Peter C. Meyers, The Progressive Revolution in Politics and Political Science: Transforming the American Regime, John Marini and Ken Masugi, editors (Rowan & Littlefield Publishers, Inc., 2005), Kindle e-book).

The constitution did not enshrine slavery; it provided for its eventual dismantling. And yea, Jim Crow and the Democrats: like a hand and glove.

No universal health care? So? Robbing Peter to pay Paul is not a hallmark of a caring nation, and certainly not a free nation.

You’re rather naïve.

I'm well aware of WHY the Founders refused to call slaves "people" for the purposes of the census, but again I point out to you that the USA is the ONLY western Constitution written to enshrined slavery and its evils, as a basis for your nation.

The excuse that it gives unequal representation to states with high populations of slaves is a sorry excuse at best. It says "We're not building or funding resources going to enslaved people, so they shouldn't be counted the way the 'real' people are counted".

If anything, your attempt to refute my post just confirms it further. You clowns keep posting the Democrats are the party of slavery, and Republicans "freed the slaves". Lincoln ended slavery, but Republicans have never "freed the slaves".

Republicans didn't give former slaves equal rights or protections under the law. They didn't even enforce the "40 acres and a mule" reparations for former slaves. They simply ended their enslavement. But Republicans did pay slave owners "reparations" for the loss of their "valuable property" when slavery ended.

Former slaves were just "free". They had no money, no home, no property, but they were "free". It was illegal to teach slaves how to read, so they had no education or skills of business, trade, or the value of their work. As for Jim Crow and the Democrats, this explains it well.

"Lynchings were a common form of terrorism practiced against blacks to intimidate them. It is important to remember that the Democrats and Republicans of the late 1800s were very different parties from their current iterations. Republicans in the time of the Civil War and directly after were literally the party of Lincoln and anathema to the South. As white, Southern Democrats took over legislatures in the former Confederate states, they began passing more restrictive voter registration and electoral laws, as well as passing legislation to segregate blacks and whites."

HUSL Library: A Brief History of Civil Rights in the United States: Reconstruction and Jim Crow Eras

This guide focuses on the civil rights that various groups have fought for within the United States.

library.law.howard.edu

You keep regurgitating the lies Republicans tells about Democrats. History and the truth tell a much different story.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Cheer up. If the cease fire holds, and Iran turns away from the destruction of Israel and exporting terrorism, Donnie could get nominated. If it works, he darn well might deserve one. Only time will tell.

He'd never get one, regardless. The Nobel Committee showed what a bunch of hacks they were awarding it to Obama when all he did was give a speech at the time.

 

[Nostra]

Obama dropped bombs in UN missions in existing wars. Trump started a war.

Barry bombed 7 different countries with no declaration of war by Congress, Stupid.

 

[Dragonlady]

Actually, he didn't. At the most, he joined a war already in progress. Or are you pretending nothing happened before he made the decision?

I never suggested any such thing. I think Obama was prepared to go into Syria in 2013, if Congress had authorized it. If he had, and Assad had been taken out quickly, you might not have had a Syrian refugee crisis in the world, but such speculation must also acknowledge that ISIS had been building its movement since 2005, and such actions might have helped them increase their power and influence unless the US was prepared to stay in Syria to support the regime, whatever that might be.

Libya was a UN/NATO operation from start to finish.

I also believe that the USA should have never gone into Afghanistan, but when they did, they should have left after they killed Bin Laden. They should have taken out El Qaada's leadership the same way they took out Bin Laden.

Over 100,000 people died in Iraq, and 150,000 in Afghanistan in wars that lasted 8 and 20 years respectively. And you wonder why the rest of the world thinks the USA is the most dangerous nation to world peace.

 

[Nostra]

I never suggested any such thing. I think Obama was prepared to go into Syria in 2013, if Congress had authorized it. If he had, and Assad had been taken out quickly, you might not have had a Syrian refugee crisis in the world, but such speculation must also acknowledge that ISIS had been building its movement since 2005, and such actions might have helped them increase their power and influence unless the US was prepared to stay in Syria to support the regime, whatever that might be.

Libya was a UN/NATO operation from start to finish.

I also believe that the USA should have never gone into Afghanistan, but when they did, they should have left after they killed Bin Laden. They should have taken out El Qaada's leadership the same way they took out Bin Laden.

Over 100,000 people died in Iraq, and 150,000 in Afghanistan in wars that lasted 8 and 20 years respectively. And you wonder why the rest of the world thinks the USA is the most dangerous nation to world peace.

I don’t see any declaration of war for all those bombs Barry Hussein dropped on sovereign countries, loser.

 

[Dragonlady]

Barry bombed 7 different countries with no declaration of war by Congress, Stupid.

Bombed??? Are you calling "targeted drone strikes in Pakistan" against terrorist training camps "bombings".

Obama’s Final Drone Strike Data | Council on Foreign Relations

As Donald Trump assumes office today, he inherits a targeted killing program that has been the cornerstone of U.S. counterterrorism strategy over the past eight years. On January 23, 2009, just three days into his presidency, President Obama authorized his first kinetic military action: two...

www.cfr.org

Drone Strikes and the U.S.-Pakistan Relationship | Brookings

The death of Pakistan Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud reveals Barack Obama’s determination to use drones to defeat al-Qaeda and its allies in Pakistan, despite the criticism the policy has generated, writes Bruce Riedel. Obama has calibrated the effectiveness of counter-terror operations...

www.brookings.edu

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/obama-legacy/drone-program-strikes.html

Wash rinse and repeat for "Drone Strikes in Yemen"

"On Sunday, November 3, 2002, six men, packed into a sedan, rolled east of Yemen’s capital through the sparse desert of Marib province, where they were struck and killed by a hellfire missile sent to meet them from a U.S. Predator drone. The U.S. targeted killing program was in its infancy—only one other strike had reportedly ever been conducted—and this was a precedent-setting success."

You were at war in Iraq and Afghanistan when Obama took office, and the Use of Force Resolutions were already in place for both wars, and for the War on Terrorism generally.

I was never in favour of any of this but to compare drone strikes against terrorists, done with the knowledge and support of the host nations, and with the knowledge Congress, is a whole other story.

 

[Nostra]

Bombed??? Are you calling "targeted drone strikes in Pakistan" against terrorist training camps "bombings".

Obama’s Final Drone Strike Data | Council on Foreign Relations

As Donald Trump assumes office today, he inherits a targeted killing program that has been the cornerstone of U.S. counterterrorism strategy over the past eight years. On January 23, 2009, just three days into his presidency, President Obama authorized his first kinetic military action: two...

www.cfr.org

Drone Strikes and the U.S.-Pakistan Relationship | Brookings

The death of Pakistan Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud reveals Barack Obama’s determination to use drones to defeat al-Qaeda and its allies in Pakistan, despite the criticism the policy has generated, writes Bruce Riedel. Obama has calibrated the effectiveness of counter-terror operations...

www.brookings.edu

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/obama-legacy/drone-program-strikes.html

Wash rinse and repeat for "Drone Strikes in Yemen"

"On Sunday, November 3, 2002, six men, packed into a sedan, rolled east of Yemen’s capital through the sparse desert of Marib province, where they were struck and killed by a hellfire missile sent to meet them from a U.S. Predator drone. The U.S. targeted killing program was in its infancy—only one other strike had reportedly ever been conducted—and this was a precedent-setting success."

I see no declaration of war by Congress.
‘Try again, loser.