One of these two men won the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Dragonlady]

I see no declaration of war by Congress.
‘Try again, loser.

There's our dancing loser **** Boi again. Claiming a win after shitting his pants.

"IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons. . . . . .

SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution."

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

 

[hadit]

I never suggested any such thing. I think Obama was prepared to go into Syria in 2013, if Congress had authorized it. If he had, and Assad had been taken out quickly, you might not have had a Syrian refugee crisis in the world, but such speculation must also acknowledge that ISIS had been building its movement since 2005, and such actions might have helped them increase their power and influence unless the US was prepared to stay in Syria to support the regime, whatever that might be.

Libya was a UN/NATO operation from start to finish.

I also believe that the USA should have never gone into Afghanistan, but when they did, they should have left after they killed Bin Laden. They should have taken out El Qaada's leadership the same way they took out Bin Laden.

Over 100,000 people died in Iraq, and 150,000 in Afghanistan in wars that lasted 8 and 20 years respectively. And you wonder why the rest of the world thinks the USA is the most dangerous nation to world peace.

TRUMP! hasn't started any new wars. At most he joined one already in progress.

 

[Dragonlady]

Please note that no President is named, and no time limit is established for this Resolution. The president isn't limited to what countries this applies to. Any nation harboring terrorists "in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons", is about as broad and unlimited as it gets, and quite honestly, the way it's written, Trump could claim he's authorized to bomb Iran under this Resolution, and he probably will make the claim.

"IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons. . . . . .

SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution."

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

Obama didn't "bomb" these nations. The host nations authorized these incursions because they didn't want these terrorists setting up camp in their country either. They're destabilizing to the entire region. It's far too easy for these terrorist cells to be turned on them in the service of local war lords or rebellions.

Big difference.

 

[Doc7505]

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Read more:

Nobel secretary regrets Obama peace prize

The decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama in 2009 failed to live up to expectations, the committee's ex-secretary says.

www.bbc.com

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The Nobel Peace Prize: Why did Obama win?

President Obama himself acknowledged that he didn’t feel he deserved to be in the same company as such “transformative figures” as Mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela.

theweek.com

 

[Doc7505]

Please note that no President is named, and no time limit is established for this Resolution. The president isn't limited to what countries this applies to. Any nation harboring terrorists "in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons", is about as broad and unlimited as it gets, and quite honestly, the way it's written, Trump could claim he's authorized to bomb Iran under this Resolution, and he probably will make the claim.

"IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons. . . . . .

SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution."

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

Obama didn't "bomb" these nations. The host nations authorized these incursions because they didn't want these terrorists setting up camp in their country either. They're destabilizing to the entire region. It's far too easy for these terrorist cells to be turned on them in the service of local war lords or rebellions.

Big difference.

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Totally disagree with you..
NPR article say's it best..
Read more:

https://www.npr.org/2009/12/11/121333188/the-national-review-undeserving-but-notable

"Barack Obama did not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. But having won it, he gave a much better speech than he has in the past, and better than many of us might have expected."

 

[struth]

There's our dancing loser **** Boi again. Claiming a win after shitting his pants.

"IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons. . . . . .

SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution."

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

Oh so Iran

 

[Papageorgio]

Cheer up. If the cease fire holds, and Iran turns away from the destruction of Israel and exporting terrorism, Donnie could get nominated. If it works, he darn well might deserve one. Only time will tell.

Doesn’t matter, Republicans don’t win, Democrats win without even doing anything. It is just the way it is.

 

[Dragonlady]

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Totally disagree with you..
NPR article say's it best..
Read more:

https://www.npr.org/2009/12/11/121333188/the-national-review-undeserving-but-notable

"Barack Obama did not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. But having won it, he gave a much better speech than he has in the past, and better than many of us might have expected."

What exactly are you disagreeing with? Are you seriously suggesting that none of it happened?

I never said Obama deserved to win the Peace Prize. I said that Obama didn't "bomb 7 different countries without Congressional authorization" and that his drone attacks on terrorist bases had the consent of the governments of their host nations, who wanted El Qaeda gone as much as the Americans did.

What Obama did and what Trump is doing are two entirely different things, although both of them could make a valid claim that their actions were authorized by the 2002 Congressional Use of Force Resolution.

 

[struth]

What exactly are you disagreeing with? Are you seriously suggesting that none of it happened?

I never said Obama deserved to win the Peace Prize. I said that Obama didn't "bomb 7 different countries without Congressional authorization" and that his drone attacks on terrorist bases had the consent of the governments of their host nations, who wanted El Qaeda gone as much as the Americans did.

What Obama did and what Trump is doing are two entirely different things, although both of them could make a valid claim that their actions were authorized by the 2002 Congressional Use of Force Resolution.

Well then neither did Trump, that authoritarian still exist and unlike Yemen, or Libya that xiden bombed, Congress found Iran was involved with 9/11 in the 9/11 commission report

So this entire argument against Trump is just politics and abuse of power

 

[Dragonlady]

Doesn’t matter, Republicans don’t win, Democrats win without even doing anything. It is just the way it is.

NONE of this would have happened if TRUMP hadn't torn up the 2014 deal. Iran would have had no enriched uranium to speak of. And it's WAY too early to know how it will end.

Republicans don't win because Republicans start wars. I wouldn't have given the Peace Prize to Obama either, but I also don't believe he was acting "illegally" or without Congressional approval in his drone attacks or his execution of the "War on Terrorism".

Obama killed Bin Laden and all of the leadership of El Qaeda. He decapitated the organization, and then went after the next level. His incursions into Somalia, Yemen Pakistan, and Libya were all done with the full knowledge and cooperation of the host governments. Republicans have never given Obama credit for any of this, I expect because they refused to give Obama credit for ANYTHING he did, including building the strongest economy since WWII.

 

[Doc7505]

What exactly are you disagreeing with? Are you seriously suggesting that none of it happened?

I never said Obama deserved to win the Peace Prize. I said that Obama didn't "bomb 7 different countries without Congressional authorization" and that his drone attacks on terrorist bases had the consent of the governments of their host nations, who wanted El Qaeda gone as much as the Americans did.

What Obama did and what Trump is doing are two entirely different things, although both of them could make a valid claim that their actions were authorized by the 2002 Congressional Use of Force Resolution.

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Read more:

The Executive’s War: Obama’s Military Actions Without Congressional Approval

A comprehensive examination of the foreign military strikes authorized by President Barack Obama that bypassed traditional congressional oversight. When Barack Obama campaigned for the presidency i…

novus2.com

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Fact Check: Did Obama drop bombs without congress approval

Yes, Obama did drop bombs without congressional approval. The evidence overwhelmingly confirms that former President Barack Obama conducted extensive bombi...

factually.co

 

[Papageorgio]

NONE of this would have happened if TRUMP hadn't torn up the 2014 deal. Iran would have had no enriched uranium to speak of. And it's WAY too early to know how it will end.

Republicans don't win because Republicans start wars. I wouldn't have given the Peace Prize to Obama either, but I also don't believe he was acting "illegally" or without Congressional approval in his drone attacks or his execution of the "War on Terrorism".

Obama killed Bin Laden and all of the leadership of El Qaeda. He decapitated the organization, and then went after the next level. His incursions into Somalia, Yemen Pakistan, and Libya were all done with the full knowledge and cooperation of the host governments. Republicans have never given Obama credit for any of this, I expect because they refused to give Obama credit for ANYTHING he did, including building the strongest economy since WWII.

If Republicans don’t win, how did Republicans win the Presidency, control of the House and control of the Senate?

Congress did not authorize the Obama’s bombing of Libya.

I see no difference between Republicans and Democrats, both want and crave war. No President in my lifetime has proved me wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

TRUMP! hasn't started any new wars. At most he joined one already in progress.

Actually, the Air Force did a mostly peaceful flyby to protest Iran's nuclear ambitions.

 

[Foxfyre]

And the other didn’t.

One was cheered, the other violated the Constitution and must be impeached!


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Well,in fairness to the Nobel committee, they didn't give the prize to Obama for dropping bombs. They didn't give it to him for any actual action, achievement or accomplishment but as nearly as anybody can determine he was given it for being black.

And Trump wasn't impeached for dropping bombs. He was impeached for collusion that never ever happened.

It is harder to tell who is more devoid of ethics, integrity or principles these days--the Nobel Peace Prize committee or the Democrat Party.

 

[whitehall]

The Nobel committee awarded the Prize to Hussein Obama covering a period when he wasn't even in office. In effect Hussein was awarded the Prize for coming to work.

 

[Stann]

Cheer up. If the cease fire holds, and Iran turns away from the destruction of Israel and exporting terrorism, Donnie could get nominated. If it works, he darn well might deserve one. Only time will tell.

He'll **** that up too , like everything else he does.

 

[Concerned American]

Cheer up. If the cease fire holds, and Iran turns away from the destruction of Israel and exporting terrorism, Donnie could get nominated. If it works, he darn well might deserve one. Only time will tell.

Wow, did you go into a seizure after posting that?

 

[Concerned American]

He'll **** that up too , like everything else he does.

There it is, TDS. Why don't you just go over and join the mullahs?

 

[mudwhistle]

Go ahead, if you follow them and want to make their views more widely heard.
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AI says he has mentioned it multiple times. Do you have links to articles, saying trump has not mentioned the Nobel Prize. I actually do not know why Trump or Nostra brought it up.

I'm sure Trump has been asked about the Nobel Peace Prize by journalists hundreds of times.

And I'm sure he hasn't refused to answer and just show them his back while walking away like Biden always did about every question.

 

[Nostra]

There's our dancing loser **** Boi again. Claiming a win after shitting his pants.

"IN GENERAL.—That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons. . . . . .

SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution."

https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

Did that cover all 7 countries Barry Hussein bombed without a declaration of war? Nope.

That isn’t even a declaration of war, which is the Dimtard standard today, Dumbass.

Keep losing, it;s what you do best.