On this day of JFK's birthday, what would he be ashamed of most?

[Hum Dinger]

Without a doubt the resurgence of fascism in America.

Second only to Trump being President.

do you even know what fascism means? give us a definition.

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Any other stupid questions?

 

[miketx]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

Perhaps he would think little who girls spaz out grammar are as laughable as I do.

 

[rightwinger]

The Space program. We should have been on Mars by now.

We are on Mars

 

[rightwinger]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

probably. But Kennedy would be a republican today. Can you imagine a current democrat saying "ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" ?

Once again conservatives have no clue what that quote means

Hint...... it has nothing to do with him being against welfare

 

[Redfish]

Without a doubt the resurgence of fascism in America.

Second only to Trump being President.

do you even know what fascism means? give us a definition.

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Any other stupid questions?

would it be fascist to have a government where every citizen was dependent on it for the basic necessities of life? Would it be fascist to riot and prevent citizens from expressing their freedom of speech? your definition is a good one and it describes the exact form of government that you on the left are asking for. Rewriting history, removing monuments, only allowing one viewpoint, the media as an arm of the government.

the Russians and Chinese and North Koreans practice what you say you want.

 

[Redfish]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

probably. But Kennedy would be a republican today. Can you imagine a current democrat saying "ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" ?

Once again conservatives have no clue what that quote means

Hint...... it has nothing to do with him being against welfare

I know exactly what it means, I heard him say it. did I say he was against welfare? Are you so stupid that you think conservatives are against welfare? Conservatives give more to charity to help the down and out than liberals even think about giving.

When you say welfare what you are really saying is income redistribution by government mandate.

 

[rightwinger]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

He would love that we got a universal healthcare program, civil rights, environmental protections.

 

[rightwinger]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

probably. But Kennedy would be a republican today. Can you imagine a current democrat saying "ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" ?

Once again conservatives have no clue what that quote means

Hint...... it has nothing to do with him being against welfare

I know exactly what it means, I heard him say it. did I say he was against welfare? Are you so stupid that you think conservatives are against welfare? Conservatives give more to charity to help the down and out than liberals even think about giving.

When you say welfare what you are really saying is income redistribution by government mandate.

I saw the Trump budget

 

[Redfish]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

He would love that we got a universal healthcare program, civil rights, environmental protections.

we had universal healthcare before obozocare. No one in the USA was denied medical care before ACA. NO ONE.

The civil rights act of 1965 was filibustered by democrats.

No one is opposed to stopping pollution. NO ONE. Its only you ignorant liberals that think pollution causes global warming and kills polar bears.

 

[Redfish]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

probably. But Kennedy would be a republican today. Can you imagine a current democrat saying "ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" ?

Once again conservatives have no clue what that quote means

Hint...... it has nothing to do with him being against welfare

I know exactly what it means, I heard him say it. did I say he was against welfare? Are you so stupid that you think conservatives are against welfare? Conservatives give more to charity to help the down and out than liberals even think about giving.

When you say welfare what you are really saying is income redistribution by government mandate.

I saw the Trump budget

me too. making able bodied people work for their welfare is a good thing for the country and for those receiving the payments.

 

[Pogo]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

probably. But Kennedy would be a republican today. Can you imagine a current democrat saying "ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" ?

Easily. Could even imagine a Democrat or Republican* doing so. That's because I don't live in Duh Bubble.

*(this just in -- proper names are capitalized in English).

 

[Pogo]

Without a doubt the resurgence of fascism in America.

Second only to Trump being President.

It's not like those two things are separate things though. So --- both.

 

[Redfish]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

probably. But Kennedy would be a republican today. Can you imagine a current democrat saying "ask not what you country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" ?

Easily. Could even imagine a Democrat or Republican* doing so. That's because I don't live in Duh Bubble.

*(this just in -- proper names are capitalized in English).

Democrat party is a proper name. democrat is an adjective and as such should not be capitalized.

Give me the names of current democrats who would say what Kennedy said, or even believe in the concept he was advocating for.

 

[Redfish]

Without a doubt the resurgence of fascism in America.

Second only to Trump being President.

It's not like those two things are separate things though. So --- both.

the fascist administration was the one that preceded Trump. Obama used the same tactics as Hitler, Mao, Chavez, Castro, Stalin. The difference was that more than half of americans did not buy into his bullshit.

 

[Pogo]

Democrat party is a proper name. democrat is an adjective and as such should not be capitalized.

"Democrat party" isn't the name of anything Homer. Not in this language.

What's more, democrat, even with a small D meaning a generic advocate of democracy, isn't an adjective anyway --- it's a NOUN. The adjective would be democratic.

Besides all of which, you used the noun democrat with a small D, which means an advocate of democracy, regardless of political party. Now if you had said Democrat you'd be referring to some member of that party.

Reading is a lost art.

Give me the names of current democrats who would say what Kennedy said, or even believe in the concept he was advocating for.

You want a list of registered Democrats?

Not interested -- do your own research. Contact the DNC.

 

[miketx]

The Space program. We should have been on Mars by now.

We are on Mars

You certainly are.

 

[Hum Dinger]

Without a doubt the resurgence of fascism in America.

Second only to Trump being President.

do you even know what fascism means? give us a definition.

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Any other stupid questions?

would it be fascist to have a government where every citizen was dependent on it for the basic necessities of life? Would it be fascist to riot and prevent citizens from expressing their freedom of speech? your definition is a good one and it describes the exact form of government that you on the left are asking for. Rewriting history, removing monuments, only allowing one viewpoint, the media as an arm of the government.

the Russians and Chinese and North Koreans practice what you say you want.

Having a social safety net for those in need is a long way from having every citizen dependent on the government for their basic necessities. Another example of fascist paranoid delusions perhaps?

When your expressions of "freedom of speech" include the profession of persecuting other people and of denying them there rights, you can bet that people are going to riot. All rights are limited rights. When your exercise of rights suppresses other people's rights your rights end.

We liberals allow many viewpoints, but when some people's viewpoints advocate suppressing other people rights we draw the line.

Removing monuments that honor traitors is absolutely justified. Those monuments should never have been allowed to have been erected. They are an insult to all those people who have fought for the freedoms that we all enjoy in this country. Honoring slavers and those that protected slavery is anti-American.

With freedom comes responsibility and those who try to exercise freedoms irresponsibly do not deserve those freedoms.

 

[mgh80]

I think he would be saddened to see that his party actually considered running a Socialist.

They did huh.

When? Who?

Don't be dense, you know exactly who I'm talking about.

Whelp -- if you can't articulate your point, you never had one. Moving on.

I was obviously speaking of Bernie Sanders, however you're setting up some kind of silly "got you" on the Internet.

Thank you. So apparently you weren't paying attention during the campaigns. Bernie Sanders got undermined at every turn by the Democratic Party, of which he wasn't even a member until he launched a Presidential run. I saw primaries where Hillary had delegates awarded before voting even started. Ever hear of a woman named Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?

So no, the party never "considered" Sanders. It considered Clinton and it considered dumping everybody else. And that's what it did. And incidentally Sanders isn't a Socialist anyway -- he's a self-described Democratic Socialist. Not that that's got anything to do with the old established political party.

On the other side the Republican Party considered everybody but when Rump won the primaries it failed to consider its own health. It too could have dumped its primary winner and nominated, say, the establishment guy from Ohio, exactly as it did in 1912.

So in sum one party committed a sin of commission, the other a sin of omission, and the electorate got fucked.

By "party" I meant voters that belong to that party, not the actual political party itself.

-What's the difference between a "democratic socialist" and a "socialist".

I disagree that the electorate got fucked. Do I think both Trump and Hillary were awful candidates? Absolutely. Do I think that both parties dropped the ball? Absolutely. Do I think either party actually gives a shit? No, I don't.

You know who I blame? The American voters who keep voting the same assholes into office...and then complain about the same assholes being in office.

 

[BluesLegend]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

He would love that we got a universal healthcare program, civil rights, environmental protections.

we had universal healthcare before obozocare. No one in the USA was denied medical care before ACA. NO ONE.
.

But but but...it wasn't free paid for by the 'rich' long live Obamacare. /sarcasm

 

[Crixus]

He would be most disappointed in what the democrat party has become.

Perhaps he'd be equally disappointed in what the English language has become.

Not really . They all spoke with that elitest main accent. Hardly English.