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Seriously? Bidens retention wasn’t oversight, he knew he had them.Are you so stupid that you don't know the difference between an oversight and deliberate, organized theft?
You seem to be lost on things.And?? Trump is being charged with willful retention of classified documents, and mishandling…well, Biden knew he had classified documents (willful retention) and mishandling (stored in boxes in his garage).
So, why then, did it decide not to indict. You lefty’s seem to slip out of all accountability. Hillary, when they said she likely broke the law, but decided not to indict and now Biden, who also broke the law..and again they won’t indict.
Why is that?
Prosecution is warranted when evidence of a crime is uncovered. If Pence purposely stole the documents, prosecution could be a result. That's why we should investigate all such occurrences, instead of this Orange Man Bad stuff. Either it's wrong when everybody does it or it's wrong when nobody does it. This just looks like persecution in search of a target.Probably not is because it’s extremely dependent on the specific circumstances which is not stated in this simplistic hypothetical.
Whether anyone “got access” is irrelevant to the legality of stealing classified documents. Do you think he should have been prosecuted?
But, but, Orange Man Bad and mean tweets, besides Jan6.Seriously? Bidens retention wasn’t oversight, he knew he had them.
But my issue isn’t even that Biden knew he had them, it’s that Nara, the agency tasked with keeping up with all of this, magically went blind when it came to bidens faults, and only seemed to get their sight back when Trump came around.
Thats the point. Pence didnt have a bunch of documents and he self reported. It seems reasonable that it was a mistake, not theft.
You can only get tons of classified documents by stealing them. Biden had many boxes full of documents, in multiple locations. He was caught on tape referring to those documents, prior to their discovery by his lawyers.
No, its reasonable to assume that it wasnt theft when its one document that was self reported. Are you interested in having a real discussion, or do you want to continue being intellectually dishonest in order to avoid the tough stuff?So if you steal one document, it’s not actually stealing?
You missed the point.
Great. So we are now establishing the fact that classified documents can be inadvertently taken.No, its reasonable to assume that it wasnt theft when its one document that was self reported. Are you interested in having a real discussion, or being intellectually dishonest in order to avoid the tough stuff?
No, its impossible. You have him on tape admitting to having the documents long before his lawyers found them and reported them to the DOJ. More importantly, a lot of it came from when he was a Senator. You cant "accidentally" take classified documents out of a SCIFF. Its not possible to take them from a SCIFF at all, unless you have multiple agents involved in the scheme who are in the exact right positions. It seems pretty likely that the documents that he had were stolen straight from the Congressional Archives, which is FAR easier to do, if you have access.Couldn’t it likewise be an accident that Biden had a few dozen documents in boxes?
Then how did Pence accidentally do it?You cant "accidentally" take classified documents out of a SCIFF
They dont have SCIFFs in the White House. The entire building is considered a SCIFF, but that makes everyone working there a little less disciplined with documents. Documents there can shift room to room, into this cabinet or into that drawer, or into someones briefcase or into a moving box.Then how did Pence accidentally do it?
You know Biden was vice president as well.They dont have SCIFFs in the White House. The entire building is considered a SCIFF, but that makes everyone working there a little less disciplined with documents. Documents there can shift room to room, into this cabinet or into that drawer, or into someones briefcase or into a moving box.
Im bringing up SCIF's because thats all Biden should have had access to when he was a Senator. How the fuck did Biden get these documents 20 years ago? Explain it to me. Do you have ANY plausible scenario in which Biden gets those documents out of a SCIF by accident and no one notices? If he didnt, then they were stolen directly from the archives.You know Biden was vice president as well.
Not sure why you’re bringing up a SCIF. As for being a senator, I don’t think you actually can claim any expertise to how senators handled classified documents in the 70s and 80s. You couldn’t even spell SCIF right.
Because he wasn’t working with the documents in a SCIF. These were not terribly sensitive documents. Biographies on foreign leaders generally, most likely given to him as briefing materials on foreign trips.Im bringing up SCIF's because thats all Biden should have had access to when he was a Senator. How the fuck did Biden get these documents 20 years ago? Explain it to me. Do you have ANY plausible scenario in which Biden gets those documents out of a SCIF by accident and no one notices? If he didnt, then they were stolen from the archives.
What on Earth gave you THAT impression? The special council's report said that "Biden possessed multiple documents with Top Secret/SCI markings". Thats the highest level there is.These were not terribly sensitive documents.
All Senators "work with documents in a SCIF". He had Secret documents from his time as a Senator. If he didnt get them from a SCIF, where did he get them from? If he did get them from a SCIF, how did he get them out without anyone noticing?Because he wasn’t working with the documents in a SCIF.
Biden actually had more documents than did TrumpSo you have a guy who had a few documents filed by accident, that no one knew was missing, and did all the due diligence things that you should do when finding one.
Guilty until proven innocent, huh?Are you so stupid that you don't know the difference between an oversight and deliberate, organized theft?
Biden had fewer than 30 documents. Trump had 80 boxes.
I’m referring to the documents from his senate career. That was the discussion topic.What on Earth gave you THAT impression? The special council's report said that "Biden possessed multiple documents with Top Secret/SCI markings". Thats the highest level there is.
Sure, but I'm Acknowledging:But, but, Orange Man Bad and mean tweets, besides Jan6.
