On May 8th, Germany had so much renewable energy...

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...it had to pay people to use electricity.

"On Sunday, May 8, Germany hit a new high in renewable energy generation. Thanks to a sunny and windy day, at one point around 1pm the country’s solar, wind, hydro and biomass plants were supplying about 55 GW of the 63 GW being consumed, or 87%.

Power prices actually went negative for several hours, meaning commercial customers were being paid to consume electricity."

While conservatives stonewall progress in this country, with lame excuses, nitpicking imperfections, and simply lying,

the rest of the world is moving ahead.

Germany had so much renewable energy on Sunday that it had to pay people to use electricity
 
Now if you could only get a 24 hour sunny day with 20 MPH winds, everything would be unicorn farts and pixie queefs.
 
...it had to pay people to use electricity.

"On Sunday, May 8, Germany hit a new high in renewable energy generation. Thanks to a sunny and windy day, at one point around 1pm the country’s solar, wind, hydro and biomass plants were supplying about 55 GW of the 63 GW being consumed, or 87%.

Power prices actually went negative for several hours, meaning commercial customers were being paid to consume electricity."

While conservatives stonewall progress in this country, with lame excuses, nitpicking imperfections, and simply lying,

the rest of the world is moving ahead.

Germany had so much renewable energy on Sunday that it had to pay people to use electricity

Is that why their electricity rates are nearly 4 times US rates? Derp!
 
One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.
 
One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

I challenge you to name a few people who oppose renewable energy development.

The snarky folks in this thread.

it's opposition to the false viability advocated by idiots like you, without considering things like base load.
 
Germans pay THREE TIMES as much for electricity as we do in the U.S.

Average electricity prices around the world: $/kWh | OVO Energy

With their (1) ill-advised decision to abandon nuclear power, (B) unfortunate reliance on Russia for most of their natural gas, and (iii) unwillingness to consider fracking, the Germans have backed themselves into an expensive corner with respect to electricity generation. Accordingly, they have pursued "renewable" sources with reckless abandon, as anyone driving the Autobahns and seeing the thousands of windmills and solar panel arrays can attest.

There are few countries where the population would tolerate the high cost and make the sacrifices that the Germans will endure to "go green," and the U.S. is not one of them. Particularly when their horrific electricity rates are ENTIRELY the result of stupid decision-making.
 
Not yet. Payback too long. You put solar you get illegals pounding nails into your roof. Leaks, shoddy work. 20 yrs later you may near "break-even" in hot location.Then u need new panels and roof. Tile, shake, woodshingles? No way. Wind and solar kill birds cost 6X, huge footprint. Nicetry.
 
One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.


If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies
 
...it had to pay people to use electricity.

"On Sunday, May 8, Germany hit a new high in renewable energy generation. Thanks to a sunny and windy day, at one point around 1pm the country’s solar, wind, hydro and biomass plants were supplying about 55 GW of the 63 GW being consumed, or 87%.

Power prices actually went negative for several hours, meaning commercial customers were being paid to consume electricity."

While conservatives stonewall progress in this country, with lame excuses, nitpicking imperfections, and simply lying,

the rest of the world is moving ahead.

Germany had so much renewable energy on Sunday that it had to pay people to use electricity

That is impressive and encouraging for the future of renewables. However it also highlights the biggest hurdle facing renewables- Storage! Too bad that couldn't save all those electrons for a rainy, dark day.
 
One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.


If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.
 

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