On Fat People

[anotherlife]

I have nothing against the obese, per say. Believe me when I say that I'm quite lazy when it comes to exercise, and I enjoy food as much as the next guy.

But the point is, that fat people should recognize the consequences of their actions, and not expect the rest of us to love and celebrate and help them. This makes no sense. They were gluttonous, they refused to restrain their appetites while the rest of us did.

So yes, I do have a problem with all of these fat people taking up so much space everywhere, and driving up healthcare costs etc. They just persist and persist in their obesity, like kings. The rest of us are the healthy peons who serve them.

Well, no more from me. I don't hate you, but I'm not helping you anymore. My life does not consist in always helping fat people, anymore than I'm interested in always being there for the drunk alcoholics, smokers, and people who engage in risky behaviors. I'm not interested in this "everyone is special" "we are all awesome" BS. You make the choices and live or die by them. I'm interested in healthy, normal people who can help themselves.

Really? I suspect you are just looking for an excuse to be nasty to other people. Whoever told you it was okay for you to make "lifestyle" choices for others? In the end we all are headed for the same destination: death. While we live let us live!

This is interesting. Being fat is not live and let live, because everybody around a fat person must live and work around her/his fatness.

So? Other people should only look and act in a manner that makes you happy? I don't think so.

I think you are wrong because physically all bodies are connected. You don't want them to infect you. They do must look and act human, not pigs.

 

[anotherlife]

I have nothing against the obese, per say. Believe me when I say that I'm quite lazy when it comes to exercise, and I enjoy food as much as the next guy.

But the point is, that fat people should recognize the consequences of their actions, and not expect the rest of us to love and celebrate and help them. This makes no sense. They were gluttonous, they refused to restrain their appetites while the rest of us did.

So yes, I do have a problem with all of these fat people taking up so much space everywhere, and driving up healthcare costs etc. They just persist and persist in their obesity, like kings. The rest of us are the healthy peons who serve them.

Well, no more from me. I don't hate you, but I'm not helping you anymore. My life does not consist in always helping fat people, anymore than I'm interested in always being there for the drunk alcoholics, smokers, and people who engage in risky behaviors. I'm not interested in this "everyone is special" "we are all awesome" BS. You make the choices and live or die by them. I'm interested in healthy, normal people who can help themselves.

I don't think obesity should be celebrated and don't believe in 'fat acceptance.' Being obese is unhealthy and usually (if not always) is a result of bad habits, habits that are harmful to your health. But, if we are to express disapproval of obesity, we must also express disapproval of smoking, heavy drinking, and other unhealthful habits. Those also result in higher health care costs.

Why do you have to express disapproval at everything if you choose to disapprove one thing? I don't understand your logic.

By the way, fat acceptance is a very deeply engrained and belligerent dogma in American society. An American friend showed me one of her clinical psychology research paper references, and one of them wrote, that the American national physical health body mass index system needs to be modified and advertised differently. The paper argued that women should be happier when fat, and that men are manipulated into unhappiness when they are not attracted to fat women.

This is unhealthy the same way as homosexuality and is forced down the throat of the entire world, every country, as part of worldwide Americanization. So France too has an increasingly difficult problem protecting its girls.

So you import Muslims. Good thinking (not).

No because the Muslims use their burkas to get fat. They haven't quite beat the Americans just yet, although the Palestinians are rumored to be even fatter. What would it take to get Americans out of their cars and shop scooters, and make them walk a few yards? Oh I remember, that invades their right to choose to be fat. Hehehe.

 

[anotherlife]

I have seen stupid threads in my time. But this is by far the stupidest.

Bigots being bigoted. And straight up stupid as well. Big surprise...

Okay, here is a thought exercise for you. Can you find another way to express yourself than being fat like a pig?

 

[koshergrl]

I have seen stupid threads in my time. But this is by far the stupidest.

Bigots being bigoted. And straight up stupid as well. Big surprise...

Okay, here is a thought exercise for you. Can you find another way to express yourself than being fat like a pig?

There is no cure for stupidity, and for that I'm sorry.

 

[The Great Goose]

He could actually be my brother! It's uncanny.

 

[eflatminor]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

On a fat person?

Don't knock it if you've never tried it. Looks like a whole lotta fun

 

[anotherlife]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

 

[eflatminor]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Best double check that first sentence. Over-the-top hyperbole.

First, there is no insurance cartel. Second, insurance carriers have NO ability to force wealth redistribution for "all costs". Lastly, those same companies are bailing out of Obamacare, and fast.

No, it's government that distorts the markets, not companies. Whatever the level of cronyism, it could not exist without a meddler in government with the power to force compliance from the taxpayers.

 

[9thIDdoc]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Then your actual complaint is with the insurance cartels and the government isn't it?

 

[anotherlife]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Best double check that first sentence. Over-the-top hyperbole.

First, there is no insurance cartel. Second, insurance carriers have NO ability to force wealth redistribution for "all costs". Lastly, those same companies are bailing out of Obamacare, and fast.

No, it's government that distorts the markets, not companies. Whatever the level of cronyism, it could not exist without a meddler in government with the power to force compliance from the taxpayers.

In this age of no more banking secrecy, the government is reduced to an automatic underwriter. So who controls the government? It must be those that have more money than the government. And those are never businesses that believe in market economy. I don't believe in market economy either. It is all consolidated and closely controlled by the select insider corporations.

 

[anotherlife]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Then your actual complaint is with the insurance cartels and the government isn't it?

No, because they don't do their jobs. I want them to stop wasting my premiums on fatso support and give me real service with my money thus spared.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[koshergrl]

 

[9thIDdoc]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Then your actual complaint is with the insurance cartels and the government isn't it?

No, because they don't do their jobs. I want them to stop wasting my premiums on fatso support and give me real service with my money thus spared.

Wrong. Your premiums are a result of your contract with your insurer.

 

[eflatminor]

I don't give two shits what a person does to their own body, as long as others aren't made to pay for his bad choices.

A concept lost on all collectivist nanny staters.

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Best double check that first sentence. Over-the-top hyperbole.

First, there is no insurance cartel. Second, insurance carriers have NO ability to force wealth redistribution for "all costs". Lastly, those same companies are bailing out of Obamacare, and fast.

No, it's government that distorts the markets, not companies. Whatever the level of cronyism, it could not exist without a meddler in government with the power to force compliance from the taxpayers.

In this age of no more banking secrecy, the government is reduced to an automatic underwriter. So who controls the government? It must be those that have more money than the government. And those are never businesses that believe in market economy. I don't believe in market economy either. It is all consolidated and closely controlled by the select insider corporations.

If you don't believe in a market economy, you must therefore believe in the allocation of resources by central planners. There is no alternative.

Pass.

 

[anotherlife]

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Best double check that first sentence. Over-the-top hyperbole.

First, there is no insurance cartel. Second, insurance carriers have NO ability to force wealth redistribution for "all costs". Lastly, those same companies are bailing out of Obamacare, and fast.

No, it's government that distorts the markets, not companies. Whatever the level of cronyism, it could not exist without a meddler in government with the power to force compliance from the taxpayers.

In this age of no more banking secrecy, the government is reduced to an automatic underwriter. So who controls the government? It must be those that have more money than the government. And those are never businesses that believe in market economy. I don't believe in market economy either. It is all consolidated and closely controlled by the select insider corporations.

If you don't believe in a market economy, you must therefore believe in the allocation of resources by central planners. There is no alternative.

Pass.

Yes and it's called price fixing, market differentiation, and law making, pretty much everything that the US government's controlling corporations write. In the Soviet Union, the central allocation of resources was done in the name of the state. In America, it is done by private corporations/banks in the name of delivering you better privatized services.

 

[anotherlife]

Then don't allow them to get fat. Fatsos are a cost to everyone in more than one way.

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Then your actual complaint is with the insurance cartels and the government isn't it?

No, because they don't do their jobs. I want them to stop wasting my premiums on fatso support and give me real service with my money thus spared.

Wrong. Your premiums are a result of your contract with your insurer.

No, because it is the 3rd party paying system that forces me to contact the insurer. If it was just between women and their doctors, there would be a lot less fat women. 3rd party payee systems such as insurers and such, always put an end to market economy, because they create artificial demand. But more importantly they create an excuse to be fat like a pig.

 

[anotherlife]

What if soy lent green is people who deserve it?

 

[eflatminor]

Only when government forces the redistribution of wealth. Outside that, there is no cost to anyone that hasn't voluntarily taken on that burden.

But the insurance cartels will always drive the government into redistributing all costs, including healthcare for fatsos, like they do with mortgages, because your credit profile tells them that you can pay what they can't. Good for market capitalization, bad for your pocket, and especially bad for your eyes.

Best double check that first sentence. Over-the-top hyperbole.

First, there is no insurance cartel. Second, insurance carriers have NO ability to force wealth redistribution for "all costs". Lastly, those same companies are bailing out of Obamacare, and fast.

No, it's government that distorts the markets, not companies. Whatever the level of cronyism, it could not exist without a meddler in government with the power to force compliance from the taxpayers.

In this age of no more banking secrecy, the government is reduced to an automatic underwriter. So who controls the government? It must be those that have more money than the government. And those are never businesses that believe in market economy. I don't believe in market economy either. It is all consolidated and closely controlled by the select insider corporations.

If you don't believe in a market economy, you must therefore believe in the allocation of resources by central planners. There is no alternative.

Pass.

Yes and it's called price fixing, market differentiation, and law making, pretty much everything that the US government's controlling corporations write. In the Soviet Union, the central allocation of resources was done in the name of the state. In America, it is done by private corporations/banks in the name of delivering you better privatized services.

Good luck with that comrade.