Okay, I Disagree with Trump on This

they might be weirdo's but they did serve and should be compensated for it

18 years ago, they entered into an agreement with the Air Force: do your duty and when you retire, you will collect x,y,z benefits.

Like it or not, these people held up their end of the contract and now Trump is breaching the contract and leaving them high and dry just because he personally does not approve of them.
 
After 18 years? Ehh..feels Gramm-Rudmany to me.
That got overturned, too. I knew people that affected, badly.
Before that after the Gulf War. they offered a 15 year-retirement, and my sister-in-law took that. Of course, being Democrats in charge. they didn't offer us that option. We were forced out and if we voluntarily left, they paid us a bonus. I got $70K before taxes, but I lost my career and was under- and un-employed for two years. I even lost my job I had arranged with a defense contractor with the Pentagon. Clinton's Navy cut the contract that I had already been hired for!
 
Before that after the Gulf War. they offered a 15 year-retirement, and my sister-in-law took that. Of course, being Democrats in charge. they didn't offer us that option. We were forced out and if we voluntarily left, they paid us a bonus. I got $70K before taxes, but I lost my career and was under- and un-employed for two years. I even lost my job I had arranged with a defense contractor with the Pentagon. Clinton's Navy cut the contract that I had already been hired for!
There ain't that many freakin' trannies in the military. I'd pay them 80-85% or so and move on.
 
I guess it's not a cult after all . . .


WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Air Force said Thursday it would deny all transgender service members who have served between 15 and 18 years the option to retire early and would instead separate them without retirement benefits. One Air Force sergeant said he was “betrayed and devastated” by the move.

The move means that transgender service members will now be faced with the choice of either taking a lump-sum separation payment offered to junior troops or be removed from the service.

An Air Force spokesperson told The Associated Press that “although service members with 15 to 18 years of honorable service were permitted to apply for an exception to policy, none of the exceptions to policy were approved.” About a dozen service members had been “prematurely notified” that they would be able to retire before that decision was reversed, according to the spokesperson who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal Air Force policy.


I agree that pursuing the transgender lifestyle, including hormones and other gender treatment, rather than just cross-dressing on the drag equivalent of karaoke night, is incompatible with military service. But their CIC said they were fine to do that and that the military would pay for it, so they did it. As long as they followed all other orders, and did their jobs when not on medical leave, they were in compliance.

Give them their early retirement and be rid of them. This move will only garner them sympathy, even from Trumpers like myself. They will sue, and if a Democrat ever holds the WH again, they will be settle with, likely for millions.

We rightly complained about honest immigrants being punished for following the rules under Democrats. Let's not punish these confused folk for also following the rules.

Yeah, that's totally disrespectful to people who served
 
I guess it's not a cult after all . . .


WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Air Force said Thursday it would deny all transgender service members who have served between 15 and 18 years the option to retire early and would instead separate them without retirement benefits. One Air Force sergeant said he was “betrayed and devastated” by the move.

The move means that transgender service members will now be faced with the choice of either taking a lump-sum separation payment offered to junior troops or be removed from the service.

An Air Force spokesperson told The Associated Press that “although service members with 15 to 18 years of honorable service were permitted to apply for an exception to policy, none of the exceptions to policy were approved.” About a dozen service members had been “prematurely notified” that they would be able to retire before that decision was reversed, according to the spokesperson who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal Air Force policy.


I agree that pursuing the transgender lifestyle, including hormones and other gender treatment, rather than just cross-dressing on the drag equivalent of karaoke night, is incompatible with military service. But their CIC said they were fine to do that and that the military would pay for it, so they did it. As long as they followed all other orders, and did their jobs when not on medical leave, they were in compliance.

Give them their early retirement and be rid of them. This move will only garner them sympathy, even from Trumpers like myself. They will sue, and if a Democrat ever holds the WH again, they will be settle with, likely for millions.

We rightly complained about honest immigrants being punished for following the rules under Democrats. Let's not punish these confused folk for also following the rules.
Honoring anything, contracts or anything at all, is completely incompatible with MAGA. You voted to screw these people so be honest and don't pretend you're mad about it.
 
Yeah, that's totally disrespectful to people who served

This action wreaks of pettiness. And it would amount to trifles to the government. Trump, honor the government's word, show some class, be magnanimous, you don't need to screw over people to clean up the military.

As such, why would I ever enter into a contract with you or the government? I do my part then 18 years later, you unilaterally suddenly just change the rules and say FU?

These were air force soldiers who served honorably and played by the rules such that they were, not illegal alien serial killers.

I expect these people will appeal the decision and win the case.
 
This action wreaks of pettiness. And it would amount to trifles to the government. Trump, honor the government's word, show some class, be magnanimous, you don't need to screw over people to clean up the military.

As such, why would I ever enter into a contract with you or the government? I do my part then 18 years later, you unilaterally suddenly just change the rules and say FU?

These were air force soldiers who served honorably and played by the rules such that they were, not illegal alien serial killers.

I expect these people will appeal the decision and win the case.
Exactly!
 
I suggest that the President and his Def. Sec. rethink this.

Maybe make the new policy prospective only? Allow those already serving to stay on provided they meet all other qualifications. But no transgender service member will thereafter be accepted.
 
18 years ago, they entered into an agreement with the Air Force: do your duty and when you retire, you will collect x,y,z benefits.

Like it or not, these people help up their end of the contract and now Trump is breaching the contract and leaving them high and dry just because he personally does not approve of them.
They had a sex change and damaged government property!
 
Honoring anything, contracts or anything at all, is completely incompatible with MAGA. You voted to screw these people so be honest and don't pretend you're mad about it.
I definitely did not vote to screw any trannies, dude. I'll leave that to the lefties fantasizing about girls with "something extra."
 
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I suggest that the President and his Def. Sec. rethink this.

Maybe make the new policy prospective only? Allow those already serving to stay on provided they meet all other qualifications. But no transgender service member will thereafter be accepted.

Maybe it has something to do with cases like this?

Coast Guardsmen near retirement deprived of benefits over religious vax objections

If I were Trump I would link this to the ones denied pensions over the Wuflu shot getting their pensions as well.
 

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