Billy_Bob
Diamond Member
I gave three options and empirical observations that show two were not plausible by empirically observed facts ( no hot spot and no increase of lWIR at cloud top). The observations also show the 4/1 gradient release is occurring in the earths atmosphere and because it is observed, no heat is being retained beyond the MASS retention of the atmosphere.Had you understood my post, you would have discerned the answers.. The energy in the LWIR bands escapes to space.As those GHG's in the atmosphere, other than water, have rigid bonds, they do not resonate and expel their energy very quickly. The residency time of energy in these molecules is so short it is incapable of warming the atmosphere.GHGs can absorb the energy of radiation. Where does that energy go?Radiation does not warm the air.
An atmosphere with little or no water can not hold energy in either direction. Deserts and the poles are excellent empirical proof of this.
There are only three results now possible.
1) The energy is being absorbed by water and released above cloud boundary where renucliation is occurring. Or,
2) The energy is being redirected to the surface and warming the black body. Then conduction and convection warm the atmosphere. Or,
3) That energy is being released to space.
As there is no hot spot, its not option 1
As near ground temperatures and temperatures at altitude are equal in gradient, Since the gradient near surface is not steeper than at altitude,this is not happening. Its not option 2
Satellites record a correlated gradient of energy in vs energy out. Option three it is!
The residency time of energy in these molecules is so short it is incapable of warming the atmosphere.
How short? Where does it go next?
An atmosphere with little or no water can not hold energy in either direction.
Venus manages to hold energy with little or no water.
The energy is being redirected to the surface and warming the black body.
Radiation moving from the atmosphere to the surface?
Had you understood my post, you would have discerned the answers..
If your post made sense, I wouldn't have had to ask the questions to discern your meaning.
The energy in the LWIR bands escapes to space.
How quickly?
An atmosphere with little or no water can not hold energy in either direction.
No comment on Venus?
The energy is being redirected to the surface and warming the black body.
You just said it escapes to space, did you mean to say it can go in either direction?
IE: Not warming the ground and not warming the atmosphere. So where is it going? As the 4/1 gradient is intact it is being lost to space.