Ok Mr.Trump, I'm on board.

People I'll
His SCOTUS list sold me.

Skeptics may say that he is just saying whatever he needs to to get elected, and I would have a difficult time arguing that, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

The SCOTUS is the important issue this election.....that and keeping the criminal Hillary out of the White House.

Me too although I'll qualify my support is dependent on him not acting like a jackass after he closes the deal on being the candidate. Presidents don't do bizarre twitter rants misspelling simple words in the middle of the night. He needs to rein himself in and stop acting like a 70 year old valley girl.
Bashing ceo's of amazon and Face Book, women , 17 candidates, etc etc the man is a accident on the way

And yet he's polling higher than your criminal candidate is. How badly does your candidate suck eh?
FAUX ??

Faux what?
FOX come on pred gave you more credit than that
 
People I'll
Me too although I'll qualify my support is dependent on him not acting like a jackass after he closes the deal on being the candidate. Presidents don't do bizarre twitter rants misspelling simple words in the middle of the night. He needs to rein himself in and stop acting like a 70 year old valley girl.
Bashing ceo's of amazon and Face Book, women , 17 candidates, etc etc the man is a accident on the way

And yet he's polling higher than your criminal candidate is. How badly does your candidate suck eh?
FAUX ??

Faux what?
FOX come on pred gave you more credit than that

Oh, you mean the same FOX poll that you people praised when it showed the Hildabeast beating Trump?
 
People I'll
Bashing ceo's of amazon and Face Book, women , 17 candidates, etc etc the man is a accident on the way

And yet he's polling higher than your criminal candidate is. How badly does your candidate suck eh?
FAUX ??

Faux what?
FOX come on pred gave you more credit than that

Oh, you mean the same FOX poll that you people praised when it showed the Hildabeast beating Trump?
we thought they made a grave error,,,,,hope they made one now just don't get a good feeling with that loud mouthed con man in our wh with his fingers on our nukes
 
Trump hasn't alienated conservatives...

Yes, he has... I am one of them. I'm telling you that he has alienated me and it's not because I didn't get my way, it's because he is taking positions contrary to my conservative views on important issues. And when I raise these concerns, his fan base jumps on me like a bunch of goofy liberals at a Code Pink rally.

Now, he can still win me over because the Democrat candidate is so unpalatable and SCOTUS is important... but he is going to have to change his tune and his supporters are as well. I am NOT going to be bullied and intimidated into voting for ANY candidate or party.
You aren't the conservatives. Many, including evangelicals support him, more now. We might not be true believers of your magnitude but we'll manage.

Telling me I am not a real conservative or that I am some kind of impossible "purist" conservative.... That's chapter 2 of How NOT to Win My Vote. It's like I said before... You people aren't smart enough to get Donald Trump elected. I'm the low hanging fruit... I am the easiest of the easy to win my support... but you can't help yourselves... you have to attack me and insult me MORE.

I realize Trump set records in terms of Republican votes in a primary. But in the General, he will need 5x as many votes to win. I realize, you've gotten where you're at by insulting, denigrating, demeaning, sliming and smearing... but all those people you've besmirched, now you need their support. I don't know how Ben Carson looks at himself in the mirror every day. I couldn't do it... if someone had implied I was akin to a child molester, there is no way I could turn around and give them my loyal support. I get how Christie does it... Trump probably just dangled a ******* doughnut in front of him... c'mon Chris, you know you want it!!!

Yep... You're going to lose this election and then you're going to blame it on me. Just like the McCain crowd and Romney crowd lost and then blamed Conservatives. You need to go WAY back in history to find a Republican who won the presidency without the support of the Conservative base. And what's really sad is, it doesn't have to be like this! Sure, there are some who aren't going to support Trump no matter what.... I'm not one of those... I'm telling you, I really want to vote for your candidate. But if you people keep on insulting and smearing me and your candidate continues sounding more and more like Chuck Schumer than Ronald Reagan.... you're not going to win my vote.
 
No Donald, the hundreds of times you have sued and been sued is not a qualification to pick a Supreme Court justice.
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I don't think we can judge any SCOTUS pick until they are seated and make some rulings. I thought Roberts was a good pick and he turns out to be probably the worst justice in my lifetime. No matter who is picked they will never fill Scalia's shoes... he is one of the 5 greatest justices of all time.

I'm not on board with Trump yet.... can't get there this way. As long as he runs from Conservatism and his antagonistic hoard of fanatical supporters continue to denigrate me and insult my intelligence... it's just not likely going to happen. I hate that... really, I do! I honestly and truly WANT to be able to vote for Trump. It's kind of pathetic because it wouldn't take a lot to get me on board. Just stop the slobbering all over liberals and repeating liberal memes left and right and start talking about sound Conservative principles again... you know, like when you first started out?

We're still a little over 5 months away from the election and there will still be some debates and opportunities for Trump to turn things around but I think he is doing irreparable damage right now. He continues to push more and more Conservatives OUT of the Big Tent and they won't be able to vote for him under ANY circumstance, including the threat of a Hillary presidency.
Sorry, but this entire post and your last several posts have been nothing but delusional nonsense.

Trump pretty much has the entire party at least willing to vote for him at this point. You, Glenn Beck, Ted Cruz, Bill Kristol and Mitt Romney are not going to make or break Trump with your votes.
 
I don't think we can judge any SCOTUS pick until they are seated and make some rulings. I thought Roberts was a good pick and he turns out to be probably the worst justice in my lifetime. No matter who is picked they will never fill Scalia's shoes... he is one of the 5 greatest justices of all time.

I'm not on board with Trump yet.... can't get there this way. As long as he runs from Conservatism and his antagonistic hoard of fanatical supporters continue to denigrate me and insult my intelligence... it's just not likely going to happen. I hate that... really, I do! I honestly and truly WANT to be able to vote for Trump. It's kind of pathetic because it wouldn't take a lot to get me on board. Just stop the slobbering all over liberals and repeating liberal memes left and right and start talking about sound Conservative principles again... you know, like when you first started out?

We're still a little over 5 months away from the election and there will still be some debates and opportunities for Trump to turn things around but I think he is doing irreparable damage right now. He continues to push more and more Conservatives OUT of the Big Tent and they won't be able to vote for him under ANY circumstance, including the threat of a Hillary presidency.
Sorry, but this entire post and your last several posts have been nothing but delusional nonsense.

Trump pretty much has the entire party at least willing to vote for him at this point. You, Glenn Beck, Ted Cruz, Bill Kristol and Mitt Romney are not going to make or break Trump with your votes.

Okay... I'm bookmarking this for when you LOSE the election and start blaming ME for it! I'll keep this so I can remind you how you said Trump didn't need our votes. I'm telling you people... in the nicest way I know how.... you better start changing your tune. This dog won't hunt.
 
....and I gave you specifics and in rebuttal you've supplied nothing except apologist gymnastics and unfounded assertions (e.g. "most economists")

That being said; I will not, under any circumstances, vote or provide any material support for either Trump or Clinton so when all is said and done and the shit starts hitting the fan over the next 4 years, I won't be accountable for any of it, the pom-pom waivers however will be accountable for ALL OF IT.
LIAR! You spewed your opinion and demanded irrefutable evidence in return. I remember TARP very well and almost all opinions at teh time was it was the right thing to do, I don't care if you believe it or not. Nor do I give a **** who you vote for or don't vote for, nobody owes you anything. Stay home and diddle yourself.
 
....and I gave you specifics and in rebuttal you've supplied nothing except apologist gymnastics and unfounded assertions (e.g. "most economists")

That being said; I will not, under any circumstances, vote or provide any material support for either Trump or Clinton so when all is said and done and the shit starts hitting the fan over the next 4 years, I won't be accountable for any of it, the pom-pom waivers however will be accountable for ALL OF IT.
LIAR! You spewed your opinion and demanded irrefutable evidence in return.
You made a ridiculous assertion and I asked you to back it up which so far you have made ZERO effort to do and I'm the "liar"? :disbelief:

I remember TARP very well and almost all opinions at teh time was it was the right thing to do,
Again with the unfounded assertions "almost all" and a staunch refusal to provide ANY supporting evidence ... I already pointed you to two schools of economics where I cannot find any economists that agreed that TARP was the "right thing to do" not to mention the millions of Tea Party members that specifically protested against TARP along with the other bailouts.

I don't care if you believe it or not. Nor do I give a **** who you vote for or don't vote for, nobody owes you anything. Stay home and diddle yourself.
Who said anything about "owing me anything"? but nice shot at deflecting since you cannot even explain why any principled conservative would cast a vote for Trump.
 
....and I gave you specifics and in rebuttal you've supplied nothing except apologist gymnastics and unfounded assertions (e.g. "most economists")

That being said; I will not, under any circumstances, vote or provide any material support for either Trump or Clinton so when all is said and done and the shit starts hitting the fan over the next 4 years, I won't be accountable for any of it, the pom-pom waivers however will be accountable for ALL OF IT.
LIAR! You spewed your opinion and demanded irrefutable evidence in return.
You made a ridiculous assertion and I asked you to back it up which so far you have made ZERO effort to do and I'm the "liar"? :disbelief:

I remember TARP very well and almost all opinions at teh time was it was the right thing to do,
Again with the unfounded assertions "almost all" and a staunch refusal to provide ANY supporting evidence ... I already pointed you to two schools of economics where I cannot find any economists that agreed that TARP was the "right thing to do" not to mention the millions of Tea Party members that specifically protested against TARP along with the other bailouts.

I don't care if you believe it or not. Nor do I give a **** who you vote for or don't vote for, nobody owes you anything. Stay home and diddle yourself.
Who said anything about "owing me anything"? but nice shot at deflecting since you cannot even explain why any principled conservative would cast a vote for Trump.
You made many broad statements, didn't back up jack shit and demanded I prove TARP was popular among economists at the time. I didn't even know that was controversial. Many conservatives have voted for Trump, you are entitled to your principles but I've seen what they are like. You can keep them.

Why are you here? You want to ***** until November and then for the next for years? Why should we care about you, exactly?
 
You made many broad statements, didn't back up jack shit
Hmmmm.. seems to me that I gave you the specifics on why my opinions are what they are and all you've done is attempted to do is take what I said out of context, deflect and resort to wild ass assertions, as far as any specifics that you've provided to back up anything you've said... the bucket is STILL empty.

and demanded I prove TARP was popular among economists at the time.
You said "most economists", a complete bullshit assertion which you still haven't provided ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE to back up, but now of course you're attempting to move the goal posts to "popular among economists", again I ask WHICH ECONOMISTS WOULD THAT BE?

I didn't even know that was controversial. Many conservatives have voted for Trump, you are entitled to your principles but I've seen what they are like. You can keep them.
You've seen what they are like? Riddle me this batman; what exactly are my principles that you have "seen what they are like"?

Why are you here?
I'm here to get a few laughs watching the hijinks performed by irrational politician worshipers trapped in a constant state of cognitive dissonance, why are you here?

Why should we care about you, exactly?
First off who's "we"? and secondly you shouldn't "care" about me since honestly I don't really give a **** about you and never have.

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First off who's "we"? and secondly you shouldn't "care" about me since honestly I don't really give a **** about you and never have.
More worthless words. I said the conservatives that voted for Trump and you couldn't receive what I meant by we. All you want to do is argue out of frustration. You no longer have a choice for a candidate that can win. WE get it. Too bad. Cry me a river. Get it yet?
 
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More worthless words.
Uh-Huh, keep trying though perhaps you'll get lucky and stumble upon some that are worthwhile. :rolleyes:

I said the conservatives that voted for Trump and you couldn't receive what I meant by we.
LOL, OIC "we" is you and the gaggle of Trumplodytes that have thrown all their principles out the window in order to join the bandwagon of a disingenuous demagogue, got it..

All you want to do is argue out of frustration.
There's no argument here, since an argument requires reason and evidence and so far you haven't provided either one of those key ingredients..... so we're only left with laughter which you have provided in abundance, thanks!

You no longer have a choice for a candidate that can win.
Yep that's true, I'm not inclined to choose any "candidate" that can win, it's those damn principles getting in the way of my becoming a pom-pom waiving Trumplodyte drone, DANG I miss out on all the fun!

Have a nice day! :)

"When the goal of political action is no longer the defense of liberty, no word other than demagoguery can describe the despicable nature of politics." -- Ron Paul
 
I don't think we can judge any SCOTUS pick until they are seated and make some rulings. I thought Roberts was a good pick and he turns out to be probably the worst justice in my lifetime. No matter who is picked they will never fill Scalia's shoes... he is one of the 5 greatest justices of all time.

I'm not on board with Trump yet.... can't get there this way. As long as he runs from Conservatism and his antagonistic hoard of fanatical supporters continue to denigrate me and insult my intelligence... it's just not likely going to happen. I hate that... really, I do! I honestly and truly WANT to be able to vote for Trump. It's kind of pathetic because it wouldn't take a lot to get me on board. Just stop the slobbering all over liberals and repeating liberal memes left and right and start talking about sound Conservative principles again... you know, like when you first started out?

We're still a little over 5 months away from the election and there will still be some debates and opportunities for Trump to turn things around but I think he is doing irreparable damage right now. He continues to push more and more Conservatives OUT of the Big Tent and they won't be able to vote for him under ANY circumstance, including the threat of a Hillary presidency.

Understood but he went to conservatives and he got this list from them. That is certainly not pushing conservatives put, it is an attempt to bring them in. He will have to do more if he is to get the hold outs like you, I understand that.

Concider that the GOP has not put up a conservative since Reagan, so if you gauge Trump by the candidates since Reagan, it would be more fair. Trump is not a conservative, I'm not saying he is, but some of us concider the SCOTUS pick to be the most important thing this cycle. True, Roberts betrayed his duty but that is always a risk no matter who is doing the choosing.

Well, I am not a "never trump" person. In fact, I actually contemplated supporting Trump over Cruz back in the beginning. I actually made a thread arguing in favor of Trump on the basis that he was more centrist and not branded by the "far right" ideology thrown by the left. I ultimately supported Cruz because he aligns more with my personal ideology but I said I would back Trump if he could win the nomination. I was concerned when he supported ethanol subsidies in Iowa in order to pander to corn farmers and when he supported federal land grabs from states. Where he lost me was in the later part of the primaries when he started attacking Carson and Cruz. Then he had that Micheal Moore meltdown on GWB at the debate. Then he started the "Lyin' Ted" crap... and his fanatics piled on.

So at this point... My vote is not going to Trump. Instead of trying to WIN my vote back, he ran out there and lurched LEFT... said we need to raise the minimum wage and taxes on the rich! Said he didn't care and didn't need my vote... And his little minion fanatics cheer him on and take turns kicking me in the nuts and calling me stupid because I speak out about that. Well, okay, if I were writing a textbook on How NOT to Win My Vote... THAT would be the first chapter.

Sure. I was a Cruz supporter as well but Ted is not running and now I have to deal with what the new reality is. To me, the SCOTUS pick is the #1issue and his list is solid.

That is probably to only solid reason to vote for Trump.
 
And tom what if he can keep it together for a week ?? a month?? The jerk has a history Why wait for him to blow up?? Go Hillary Sleep better

GOOD LORD.....When you get to be my age the slightest sound wakes you up....the thought of that witch in the WH would have the same effect on my ability to fall asleep as 5 cups of Starbucks coffee and a fistful of bennies. :lol:
I'm at least as old as you perhaps older and while hill has been called everything by the LOL hands clean repubs I'd want someone in the WH that is not an uneducated nit wit as far as policy or dealing with leaders from foreign countries is concerned
You mean pandering to foreign leaders for personal power and profit.
if she did anything illegal send her to jail you mean all your pub nitwits in congress aren't trying hard enough to get rid of her? all that pandering stuff is just repub bs they keep throwing against the wall

The investigation is in process. Hopefully it will conclude before the election. Imagine a sitting president getting handcuffed and carted off to jail.
 
I remember TARP very well and almost all opinions at teh time was it was the right thing to do, I don't care if you believe it or not.

You're full of shit. Every conservative voice out there was screaming it at the top of their lungs... DON'T DO IT! When John McCain suspended his campaign to run back to Washington in a panic because "too big to fail" had to have his vote... every TRUE Conservative in America was disappointed in him and he LOST the damn election.

And here we go again, down the same damn road with you Republicrats... you don't GET Conservatism, you never have and you never will. You think because you're not some radical left-wing nut job that makes you a Conservative. Well, it doesn't. It makes you a visionless, spineless, mealy-mouth moderate.

Trump supporters are the SAME DAMN PEOPLE who supported John McCain and Mitt Romney. You don't want to call yourselves "Establishment" but that is your people... that's who YOU put into office. Once again, you've gotten your way... you got your candidate nominated and now we can all watch him go down in flames... but at least the Conservative didn't win.
 
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