OH SNAP! 'House Intelligence Chair: ‘No Proof’ Russians Were Trying To Get Trump Elected'

[jc456]

It's pretty ridiculous to say that voting machines were hacked - they aren't connected to the Internet.

But the Russians were certainly hacking the DNC's emails.

Well, Julian Assange SWEARS that Russians didn't do the hacking, nor was it any representative or agent of the Russian government. So what reason would he have to lie? I don't think it's a foregone conclusion the Russians hacked anything.

And you're right... voting machines are not connected online, so hacking them is virtually impossible. That doesn't stop the left from promoting the false narrative or the stupid sheep on the left who will simply believe it because they want to believe it.

He would lie because he wants to protect Wikileaks's reputation, which has taken a battering as it was seen as a tool for the Russian government.

Or he may genuinely believe it and doesn't know. We can be pretty certain that someone didn't call him and say "Hi. I'm from the Russian government. Do you want some stolen emails?" Russian intelligence is a wee bit more sophisticated than that.

but not sophisticated enough to avoid being seen in a hack? wow, I think they are more sophisticated and didn't do anything.

 

[Boss]

lol @ National Review.

Go **** yourself.

Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

USA Today... Politifact?

No... you go **** yourself, chump.

See how that worked?

Major, reputable, national news organizations that have not bee debunked by anyone with credibility?

Just those silly old things?

What do you have? Tomi Lahren and the blaze? Infowars and Alex Jones' sulfur theories? Please **** yourself.

Nope... your OWN SOURCES say they don't KNOW that Russians did the hacking... they don't have evidence to PROVE it... they simply "believe" they did because "it looks like" they did. Well it also looks like Hillary Clinton is a criminally corrupt ***** from hell! So if that's now our standard for "PROOF" then we need to lock her up, right?

The sources are 17 American Intelligence Agencies, they all unanimously say that Russia was behind hacks. Lay off the crack.

No they didn't. Name these sources and provide their statements. So far, the ONLY thing you've provided is the same statement from DNI and DHS that says they THINK Russia may have been involved because it appears to have their signature. This is NOT a statement they have evidence Russia did it. That's only TWO organizations and NO definitive evidence.

Let's be clear.... there is a difference between stating that you THINK someone did something and stating that they definitively DID do something. I don't KNOW if Russians were responsible for the hacking... they MAY HAVE BEEN! But we don't have evidence at this time to make that statement. So you need to stop making that statement as if it's a fact... that makes you a LIAR.

 

[AntonToo]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Except the testimony of entirety of American Intelligence agencies that lists out the pseudonyms of hackers, their hierarchy in Russian operations and technical explanation of how the hacking was done by them

FBI and Homeland Security detail Russian hacking campaign in new report

None, none at all.

 

[jc456]

Russian hacking is the new flat Earth society.

But you believe in a flat earth.

The intel agencies, all of them, agree. You don't. Who cares?

And yet not one of them has provided this supposed proof to the Congress in fact they refused.

And weirdly, they provided it to everyone else. Can you read?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

what exactly is that? it says absolutely nothing with respect to the russians hacking anything.

 

[Syriusly]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Potential hacking occurred. An out-dated Ukrainian code was found on several computers but no proof that hacking occurred. that code can be downloaded off the internet and used by anyone today.

none of that is evidence that the Russians hacked anything.

LMAO, this is such a lie. Why do you keep repeating it?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Quoting(I hate copying and pasting from a PDF)
This document
provides technical details regarding the tools and infrastructure used by the Russian civilian andmilitary intelligence Services (RIS) to compromise and exploit networks and
endpoints associated with the U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. Government, political, and private
sector entities.
The U.S. Government is referring to this malicious cyberactivity by RIS as
GRIZZLY STEPPE.
Previous JARs have not attributed malicious cyber activity to specific countries or threat actors.
However, public attribution of these activities to RIS is supported by technical indicators from
the U.S. Intelligence Community, DHS, FBI, the private sector, and other entities. This
determination expands upon the Joint Statement
released October 7, 2016, from the Department
of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security.

 

[jc456]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Except the testimony of entirety of American Intelligence agencies that lists out the pseudonyms of hackers, their hierarchy in Russian operations and technical explanation of how the hacking was done by the,

None, none at all.

blah, blah, blah, blah and yet the OP sites our own government doesn't believe it. how's that?

here again, since you missed it originally,

“There’s no proof that we have from intelligence sources that I’ve seen that show that the Russians were directly trying to help Trump,” said Rep. Devin Nunes during an interview with the Washington Examiner’s “Examining Politics” podcast Monday. Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions."
-- HUGE difference between 'did hack' and 'did not rule it out'!

"In his role as chairman overseeing the intelligence community, Nunes has access to the nation’s most important secrets. He is also a member of the intelligence version of the Gang of Eight, a select group of congressional leaders who are given special access to national security information from the executive branch."

 

[Syriusly]

Russian hacking is the new flat Earth society.

But you believe in a flat earth.

The intel agencies, all of them, agree. You don't. Who cares?

And yet not one of them has provided this supposed proof to the Congress in fact they refused.

And weirdly, they provided it to everyone else. Can you read?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

what exactly is that? it says absolutely nothing with respect to the russians hacking anything.

Except of course it does:

This document
provides technical details regarding the tools and infrastructure used by the Russian civilian and military intelligence Services (RIS) to compromise and exploit networks and endpoints associated with the U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. Government, political, and private
sector entities.
The U.S. Government is referring to this malicious cyber
activity by RIS asGRIZZLY STEPPE.
Previous JARs have not attributed malicious cyber activity to specific countries or threat actors.
However, public attribution of these activities to RIS is supported by technical indicators from
the U.S. Intelligence Community, DHS, FBI, the private sector, and other entities. This
determination expands upon the Joint Statement
released October 7, 2016, from the Department
of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security.

 

[GaryDog]

Russian hacking is the new flat Earth society.

But you believe in a flat earth.

The intel agencies, all of them, agree. You don't. Who cares?

And yet not one of them has provided this supposed proof to the Congress in fact they refused.

And weirdly, they provided it to everyone else. Can you read?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

what exactly is that? it says absolutely nothing with respect to the russians hacking anything.

So you're illiterate? That's what you're telling us?

 

[jc456]

Russian hacking is the new flat Earth society.

But you believe in a flat earth.

The intel agencies, all of them, agree. You don't. Who cares?

And yet not one of them has provided this supposed proof to the Congress in fact they refused.

And weirdly, they provided it to everyone else. Can you read?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

what exactly is that? it says absolutely nothing with respect to the russians hacking anything.

So you're illiterate? That's what you're telling us?

“There’s no proof that we have from intelligence sources that I’ve seen that show that the Russians were directly trying to help Trump,” said Rep. Devin Nunes during an interview with the Washington Examiner’s “Examining Politics” podcast Monday. Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions."
-- HUGE difference between 'did hack' and 'did not rule it out'!

"In his role as chairman overseeing the intelligence community, Nunes has access to the nation’s most important secrets. He is also a member of the intelligence version of the Gang of Eight, a select group of congressional leaders who are given special access to national security information from the executive branch."

 

[Syriusly]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Except the testimony of entirety of American Intelligence agencies that lists out the pseudonyms of hackers, their hierarchy in Russian operations and technical explanation of how the hacking was done by the,

None, none at all.

blah, blah, blah, blah and yet the OP sites our own government doesn't believe it. how's that?

here again, since you missed it originally,

“There’s no proof that we have from intelligence sources that I’ve seen that show that the Russians were directly trying to help Trump,” said Rep. Devin Nunes during an interview with the Washington Examiner’s “Examining Politics” podcast Monday. Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions."
-- HUGE difference between 'did hack' and 'did not rule it out'!

"In his role as chairman overseeing the intelligence community, Nunes has access to the nation’s most important secrets. He is also a member of the intelligence version of the Gang of Eight, a select group of congressional leaders who are given special access to national security information from the executive branch."

Nunes is saying that the hack was not to elect Trump.

Now why exactly do you not care if Russia tried to hack our election?

Why do you want to ignore the FBI and CIA- and believe Russia?

 

[easyt65]

[Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions.

The KEY WORD there is 'POSSIBILITY'!

THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIA HACKED THE DNC.

THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE THAT RUSSIANS HACKED 'THE ELECTION'.

THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CONSPIRACTY RHEORY BEING PUSHED BY OBAMA AND SNOWFLAKES!

'MAYBE' hacking occurred....'there POTENTIALLY was hacking that occurred...there is a POTENTIAL that the Russians may have had a hand (not done it themselves) in hacking OTHER institutions....

DUDE, PROVIDE ME WITH THE DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE RUSSIANS HACKED THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WITH THE INTENT TO HELP DONALD TRUMP!

THAT is the Conspiracy Theory being pushed by the left, and you just pointed out that none of you have any definitive evidence to support it!

Thank you!

 

[EverCurious]

See my posts (I think I parsed down to my fact posts, if not I apologize - will check Now checked and explained for reference )

Vlad the Merciful flushed Joke Obama down the toilett - Breaking down reports "evidence" - re Phishing
US EXPELS 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds. - Related: Explaining Phishing (Addendum 1)
US EXPELS 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds. - Related: Explaining Phishing (Addendum 2)

US EXPELS 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds. - Destroying the reports "evidence" - re Malware
Wikileaks: Russia didn't hack shit. - Wikileaks has always claimed it was an insider, Crowdstrike connection, and further breaking down report's evidence
US EXPELS 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds. - Related: Wikileaks nailing Russia (and specifically Putin, aka they are no friends)
PROOF: FBI, DHS release joint report on Russia hacking - Related: Just how easy it is too get the malware proclaimed as Russia (malware claims to be Ukrainian - Guccifer 2.0 claims to be Ukrainian as well )
CIA Concludes Russia Interfered In Election To Help Trump Win - Related: explaining a bit on how hacking/coding/malware works, as well as trashing the proclaimed "keyboard" tracking the media is flapping about.

US EXPELS 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds. - Related: Our reactions to other countries hacking us in the very recent past (aka 2015)

 

[jc456]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Except the testimony of entirety of American Intelligence agencies that lists out the pseudonyms of hackers, their hierarchy in Russian operations and technical explanation of how the hacking was done by the,

None, none at all.

blah, blah, blah, blah and yet the OP sites our own government doesn't believe it. how's that?

here again, since you missed it originally,

“There’s no proof that we have from intelligence sources that I’ve seen that show that the Russians were directly trying to help Trump,” said Rep. Devin Nunes during an interview with the Washington Examiner’s “Examining Politics” podcast Monday. Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions."
-- HUGE difference between 'did hack' and 'did not rule it out'!

"In his role as chairman overseeing the intelligence community, Nunes has access to the nation’s most important secrets. He is also a member of the intelligence version of the Gang of Eight, a select group of congressional leaders who are given special access to national security information from the executive branch."

Nunes is saying that the hack was not to elect Trump.

Now why exactly do you not care if Russia tried to hack our election?

Why do you want to ignore the FBI and CIA- and believe Russia?

he's saying that he can't show evidence of a hack by the russians. he didn't rule it out, but he has no evidence, why don't you try fking reading.

 

[easyt65]

Nunes is saying that the hack was not to elect Trump.

He didn't even say there WAS a hack 'of the election'!

 

[GaryDog]

lol @ National Review.

Go **** yourself.

Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking

Clinton, Trump clash on Russia's role in election

USA Today... Politifact?

No... you go **** yourself, chump.

See how that worked?

Major, reputable, national news organizations that have not bee debunked by anyone with credibility?

Just those silly old things?

What do you have? Tomi Lahren and the blaze? Infowars and Alex Jones' sulfur theories? Please **** yourself.

Nope... your OWN SOURCES say they don't KNOW that Russians did the hacking... they don't have evidence to PROVE it... they simply "believe" they did because "it looks like" they did. Well it also looks like Hillary Clinton is a criminally corrupt ***** from hell! So if that's now our standard for "PROOF" then we need to lock her up, right?

The sources are 17 American Intelligence Agencies, they all unanimously say that Russia was behind hacks. Lay off the crack.

No they didn't. Name these sources and provide their statements. So far, the ONLY thing you've provided is the same statement from DNI and DHS that says they THINK Russia may have been involved because it appears to have their signature. This is NOT a statement they have evidence Russia did it. That's only TWO organizations and NO definitive evidence.

Let's be clear.... there is a difference between stating that you THINK someone did something and stating that they definitively DID do something. I don't KNOW if Russians were responsible for the hacking... they MAY HAVE BEEN! But we don't have evidence at this time to make that statement. So you need to stop making that statement as if it's a fact... that makes you a LIAR.

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Let's be clear: YOU'RE CLUELESS

 

[NLT]

But the Russians were certainly hacking the DNC's emails.

proof?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Except the testimony of entirety of American Intelligence agencies that lists out the pseudonyms of hackers, their hierarchy in Russian operations and technical explanation of how the hacking was done by the,

None, none at all.

blah, blah, blah, blah and yet the OP sites our own government doesn't believe it. how's that?

here again, since you missed it originally,

“There’s no proof that we have from intelligence sources that I’ve seen that show that the Russians were directly trying to help Trump,” said Rep. Devin Nunes during an interview with the Washington Examiner’s “Examining Politics” podcast Monday. Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions."
-- HUGE difference between 'did hack' and 'did not rule it out'!

"In his role as chairman overseeing the intelligence community, Nunes has access to the nation’s most important secrets. He is also a member of the intelligence version of the Gang of Eight, a select group of congressional leaders who are given special access to national security information from the executive branch."

Nunes is saying that the hack was not to elect Trump.

Now why exactly do you not care if Russia tried to hack our election?

Why do you want to ignore the FBI and CIA- and believe Russia?

Neither the CIA or FBI have ponied up any proof. Are you people really this stupid? THERE IS NO PROOF

 

[SassyIrishLass]

But the Russians were certainly hacking the DNC's emails.

proof?

No proof of that either....lol

 

[jc456]

USA Today... Politifact?

No... you go **** yourself, chump.

See how that worked?

Major, reputable, national news organizations that have not bee debunked by anyone with credibility?

Just those silly old things?

What do you have? Tomi Lahren and the blaze? Infowars and Alex Jones' sulfur theories? Please **** yourself.

Nope... your OWN SOURCES say they don't KNOW that Russians did the hacking... they don't have evidence to PROVE it... they simply "believe" they did because "it looks like" they did. Well it also looks like Hillary Clinton is a criminally corrupt ***** from hell! So if that's now our standard for "PROOF" then we need to lock her up, right?

The sources are 17 American Intelligence Agencies, they all unanimously say that Russia was behind hacks. Lay off the crack.

No they didn't. Name these sources and provide their statements. So far, the ONLY thing you've provided is the same statement from DNI and DHS that says they THINK Russia may have been involved because it appears to have their signature. This is NOT a statement they have evidence Russia did it. That's only TWO organizations and NO definitive evidence.

Let's be clear.... there is a difference between stating that you THINK someone did something and stating that they definitively DID do something. I don't KNOW if Russians were responsible for the hacking... they MAY HAVE BEEN! But we don't have evidence at this time to make that statement. So you need to stop making that statement as if it's a fact... that makes you a LIAR.

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Let's be clear: YOU'RE CLUELESS

well post up the verbiage that states the russians did hacking.

 

[Syriusly]

there is no hard evidence of exactly what their GOALS for hacking was.

There isn't even any evidence the Russians hacked anything.

Except the testimony of entirety of American Intelligence agencies that lists out the pseudonyms of hackers, their hierarchy in Russian operations and technical explanation of how the hacking was done by the,

None, none at all.

blah, blah, blah, blah and yet the OP sites our own government doesn't believe it. how's that?

here again, since you missed it originally,

“There’s no proof that we have from intelligence sources that I’ve seen that show that the Russians were directly trying to help Trump,” said Rep. Devin Nunes during an interview with the Washington Examiner’s “Examining Politics” podcast Monday. Nunes did not rule out that Russia possibly had a hand in the recent hacking of various political institutions."
-- HUGE difference between 'did hack' and 'did not rule it out'!

"In his role as chairman overseeing the intelligence community, Nunes has access to the nation’s most important secrets. He is also a member of the intelligence version of the Gang of Eight, a select group of congressional leaders who are given special access to national security information from the executive branch."

Nunes is saying that the hack was not to elect Trump.

Now why exactly do you not care if Russia tried to hack our election?

Why do you want to ignore the FBI and CIA- and believe Russia?

Neither the CIA or FBI have ponied up any proof. Are you people really this stupid? THERE IS NO PROOF

And you expect the CIA and FBI to offer up all of their evidence to everyone?

Here is the FBI report.
https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Why exactly do you not believe the FBI and CIA- but you do believe and trust Russia?