Official Coronavirus Thread - Up to the minute Coronavirus map and count.

[Lucy Hamilton]

"Vitamin D kills this thing..."
HAhahaha
OMG - the ignorance is off the charts.
If Vitamin D is all it took, pretty sure that would have been tried...but...NOOO.... it is a big secret...only the "smart" people know about it.... LOL
Good lord

Where are you getting this "Vitamin D" quote? Making it up?

The low IQ crowd have been saying that Vitamin D, the same crowd think that warmer weather will magically make COVID-19 disappear. Iamwhatiseem is being sarcastic when he refers to them as the "smart" peoples.

BTW he's on the Right like me he has a son and a daughter I think literally working in the healthcare side of dealing with COVID-19, they are NOT even paying attention to his posts, you know how they are not paying attention to my posts. Most of them are sitting on their fat buttocks and don't know about anything they are posting.

You have Iamwhatiseem posting what his son and daughter are dealing with on the front lines, you have me posting about working for 4 weeks on the front lines not in the healthcare side of things but working as part of our Emergency COVID-19 Ministry of Interior and Ministry of Health Task Force and we EVERY DAY are dealing with healthcare professionals fighting COVID-19 and yet me and Iamwhatiseem BOTH Rightists are getting ignored by other Rightists because instead t hey want to think that Donald Trump is LITERALLY going to save then when he's not, this thing is now OUT of Trump's hands and is going to begin doing it's own thing, you SHOULD have gone on lockdown 4 weeks ago, now it's about to be too late.

 

[Pogo]

"Vitamin D kills this thing..."
HAhahaha
OMG - the ignorance is off the charts.
If Vitamin D is all it took, pretty sure that would have been tried...but...NOOO.... it is a big secret...only the "smart" people know about it.... LOL
Good lord

Not only does Vitamin D not kill this thing but warmer weather also has no effect on it.

I don't know where this "Vitamin D" jazz got started but no, it doesn't kill this bug, however the warmer season -- not weather -- does have an indirect effect, in that ultraviolet (UV) light does serve to inactivate coronas. They use it in the lab to neutralize the killer virus while they study it. The warmer (summer) months tend to draw people outdoors where they get more sunlight, and the greater exposure of UV light tends to diminish flu viruses, which is why they become "seasonal" and why there is concern that the current pandemic is in the process of shifting hemispheres to attack the south of the equator as that side of the planet goes into its winter.

So getting sunshine is a good thing, not for any reason of "Vitamin D" wherever that came from. There's a fairly technical paper on it here.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Some countries coming to thier senses.

How flamingly ignorant is this. "Some countries coming to thier [sic] senses"?? REALLY?

HOW MUCH TIME is March 11 to April 15? Hm? This is what SUCCESS looks like. Five weeks of lockdown PRODUCES RESULTS.

"Coming to their senses" holy SHIT.

Exactly ogo, we have now been in total lockdown for 4 weeks and 1 more week to go so yes a 5 week lockdown and the success we have had in this 5 week lockdown is WHY we are going to begin in STAGES lifting the lockdown.

I mean this is NOT rocket science to understand this and yet they seem to be completely not able to understand this.

I had my first day off today in 4 weeks, of course most of the time I was on the phone asking were will still doing okay and they said yes. I will have to go to bed very soon, I am hoping to be in my office for 4.30AM as usual, a lot to do tomorrow again, unfortunately some of it will involve me being in one of those awful hazmat suits again.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

"Vitamin D kills this thing..."
HAhahaha
OMG - the ignorance is off the charts.
If Vitamin D is all it took, pretty sure that would have been tried...but...NOOO.... it is a big secret...only the "smart" people know about it.... LOL
Good lord

Not only does Vitamin D not kill this thing but warmer weather also has no effect on it.

I don't know where this "Vitamin D" jazz got started but no, it doesn't kill this bug, however the warmer season -- not weather -- does have an indirect effect, in that ultraviolet (UV) light does serve to inactivate coronas. They use it in the lab to neutralize the killer virus while they study it. The warmer (summer) months tend to draw people outdoors where they get more sunlight, and the greater exposure of UV light tends to diminish flu viruses, which is why they become "seasonal" and why there is concern that the current pandemic is in the process of shifting hemispheres to attack the south of the equator as that side of the planet goes into its winter.

So getting sunshine is a good thing, not for any reason of "Vitamin D" wherever that came from. There's a fairly technical paper on it here.

As the temperature thing is not my expertise I will of course read up on this ogo. I do know 100% though that taking Vitamin D is not going to cure COVID-19.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Yesterday was Indianapolis's worse rise. Yesterday.
The curve isn't even beginning to curve down. What happens over a period of a few days is too short to show anything.

That's Indianapolis. The charts show that nationally deaths and new cases are decreasing. That could be temporary, but at this point it's moving in the right direction.

The trend is still going up. There will be around 15000 - 20000 deaths by Easter. Testing has been a disaster in California. Taking way too long.

You are basically correct. They will NOT listen, many of the Rightists at this forum will NOT even listen to what I am posting about COVID-19 and I'm a Rightist. I have been attempting to warn them for several weeks, but they seem to be locked into this mentality of thinking nothing is going to happen to America BECAUSE it's America. I posted a week and half ago that America was literally going to become the epicentre of COVID-19 and they all thought this was incorrect and then what occur, yes days later America became the epicentre of COVID-19. IF they won't even listen and pay attention to another Rightist on this issue they will pay attention to nobody.

smh. I am getting the same message and am a conservative, too. When medical people have to go to the dark web to get N95 quality masks, then something is wrong and medical centers are being overwhelmed. The testing which was supposed to be our first line of defense has failed or is failing. I'll be interested in those countries that have relaxed their quarantine to see whether there is a reoccurance of COVID-19.

"smh. I am getting the same message and am a conservative, too. When medical people have to go to the dark web to get N95 quality masks, then something is wrong and medical centers are being overwhelmed. The testing which was supposed to be our first line of defense has failed or is failing."

It shows that America from Coast to Coast was NOT prepared, that there was a national complacency that COVID-19 was not going to affect America, that you might just have a few isolated cases but that everything would just go on as normal. America did not want to do a total lockdown because "we don't do things like that it's Un-Constitutional" or whatever. The situation is that a virus and/or a disease does not give a crap about what is Constitutional or not, a virus and/or disease does not decide to affect one third of the planet and not affect America because it's America. You should have had most of America on lockdown weeks ago, you should have had New York, California and Florida on total lockdown weeks ago, you didn't and you in approx 3 weeks are going to have New Cases and Death Totals going off the chart.

"I'll be interested in those countries that have relaxed their quarantine to see whether there is a reoccurance of COVID-19."

As I commented in this thread as of now we are expecting to begin lifting our total lockdown on April 14 the next stage of reopenings begin May 2 we hope to have 80% of the nation reopened by mid-May, things like concerts, cinemas and sporting events probably we will be I think easing the lifting of the restrictions in mid-June. Our borders will though remain CLOSED and ALL flights into the nation will remain banned except flights that are containing certain products that could be needed, commercial flights will remain banned.

During all these three stages we will be closely monitoring the situation, we will be very careful as to how these entire reopenings are conducted and how peoples respond during the days and weeks after things have been reopened. This is why we are going to tell them that even when things have reopened they must CONTINUE to wear masks, do the social distancing and the hand washing etc.

The situation is that we are going to begin reopening to be followed within days by Norway and Denmark, they have had in place total lockdown measures that have been nearly the exact same as we have had. I will be very happy when we can reopen and hopefully things go according to plan, everyone in our Emergency COVID-19 Task Force will also be very happy, all this working on this 18 hours a day every day for 4 weeks has been very exhausting and stressful, we all want to get back to a normal day and to be able to go home to spend some time with our respective kidlets for a few hours before they go to bed.

oh for fk sake. gets some fking new material, that's a worn out hanky now.

You are exhibiting your low IQ again. WTF do you know about anything? Nothing. I have been posting about what we have been doing for WEEKS you idiot Muppet I have been in various PMs giving other information also that I cannot post in Open Forum. I have worked 18 hours a day for nearly 4 weeks I had ONE day off and that was today Tuesday.

What a moron you are by your comments. Do me a favour go out NOW and PLEASE get COVID-19. Do it. You should WANT to do it afterall it's no big problem. So go ahead, PLEASE get COVID-19.

Total moron AND a loser obviously in his basement. You think this is ALL a Hoax? So okay go out and get COVID-19 and then we can all laugh when you are in Intensive Care.

Don't waste ANY time on that one Oosie. He is pure troll, and astoundingly stupid. I've had him on Ignore for that reason for a loooong time. I appreciate what you're doing and taking the time to advise here, it's spot-on. You're doing what they call God's work.

jc can agree on other political issues but on this issue that is not going to occur. OMG are we doing God's work? I just think of it as doing my duty to the best of my ability to protect the peoples to my best ability.

 

[Pogo]

Some countries coming to thier senses.

How flamingly ignorant is this. "Some countries coming to thier [sic] senses"?? REALLY?

HOW MUCH TIME is March 11 to April 15? Hm? This is what SUCCESS looks like. Five weeks of lockdown PRODUCES RESULTS.

"Coming to their senses" holy SHIT.

Exactly ogo, we have now been in total lockdown for 4 weeks and 1 more week to go so yes a 5 week lockdown and the success we have had in this 5 week lockdown is WHY we are going to begin in STAGES lifting the lockdown.

I mean this is NOT rocket science to understand this and yet they seem to be completely not able to understand this.

I had my first day off today in 4 weeks, of course most of the time I was on the phone asking were will still doing okay and they said yes. I will have to go to bed very soon, I am hoping to be in my office for 4.30AM as usual, a lot to do tomorrow again, unfortunately some of it will involve me being in one of those awful hazmat suits again.

And you're spending the one day you have off, still doing good work in your guidance here. It is much appreciated. Those who are going to ignore it, were going to ignore it anyway, there's no more you or I can do about that. But for the community it comes down to, again, we are only as strong as our weakest link and unfortunately we have way too many who are volunteering to be weak links. It is a weakness in their character.

 

[sarahgop]

The fantastic non-dictatorial governor of Tennessee will not renew his stay at home order apr 14. Anyone close enough go spend your money in that wonderful state. Some excellent drinks at Tootsies!!

 

[james bond]

You have not done an actual lockdown, you have too many places still open and peoples going out and about. You should have done what we did total lockdown for 4 weeks, not only mass testing but more IMPORTANT Trace Testing of those who came into contact with those who already tested positive and Containment and then we are going to have 1 more week of total lockdown and hope to begin slowly reopening everything between April 14-end of June.

We didn't have good testing nor a full lockdown, just shelter-in-place. I think that's from WW II. The CDC (under the FDC) has been a disaster. In hindsight, we've should've went with WHO's recommendation for test kits. Now, it's South Korean test kits, but the new same day ones (US developed?) sound promising, but a lot of it is too much, too little, too late. The US fate may be similar to Italy and Spain and we become the death capital, for the time being.

 

[james bond]

And you're spending the one day you have off, still doing good work in your guidance here.

She's not in the US unless you're not in the US, too.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Spain is a disaster, Italy is a disaster, America is about to be a disaster and Britain is about to be a disaster. It's not IF it's WHEN.

I thought this, too, but didn't have the data. Just couldn't come out and say we would be another Spain or Italy. However, they probably had the same attitudes as we are seeing here. Since the two countries became the world's epicenters, then they have taken it more seriously. Same with Britain, too, unfortunately. The PM has it, but heading toward recovery now (hydroxychloroquine cocktail (?)). Prince Charles probably has recovered.

I think Boris Johnson is going to die, a shame because he's a good person. IF they ONLY have Boris on oxygen then WHY is he in Intensive Care? They don't take patients into Intensive Care to just put them on oxygen, you can do that in a normal hospital room.

he was on tv last night.

No that would have been a recording of Boris from LAST FRIDAY, last night Boris was in Intensive Care and getting oxygen and he's in Intensive Care still and is very sick.

Do you even pay attention to ANY news? It was across the world news about Boris, it was on ALL American news organisations:

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson hospitalized after coronavirus symptoms persist

The 55-year-old had tested positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by coronavirus, late last month.

www.cbsnews.com

He has been in Intensive Care since Monday, he was not on the television therefore on Monday:

Boris Johnson moved to intensive care unit as coronavirus symptoms have 'worsened' | CNN

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson was moved to an intensive care unit Monday after his condition with coronavirus symptoms "worsened," his office has said.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

And you're spending the one day you have off, still doing good work in your guidance here.

She's not in the US unless you're not in the US, too.

ogo means that I am now still attempting to give warnings to peoples in America who are at this forum.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Yesterday was Indianapolis's worse rise. Yesterday.
The curve isn't even beginning to curve down. What happens over a period of a few days is too short to show anything.

That's Indianapolis. The charts show that nationally deaths and new cases are decreasing. That could be temporary, but at this point it's moving in the right direction.

If you look at Spain and Italy, they have bee on a downward slope for the past 7-10 days.

We should follow.

What I don't understand is New York.

I think they've ignored a lot of warnings since this got back and now they are really fucked.

800 deaths just today.

You are on our estimates following the same curve as Spain and Italy and in approx 3 weeks America will see a massive increase in COVID-19 New Cases and also New Deaths, you will get to Spain and Italy levels this because you have not put New York in TOTAL ISOLATION from the rest of ALL America, especially the States that surround it and you still are not in total lockdown you have State to State travel and this is why you are not containing this thing because with this State to State travel you are allowing it to spread.

Spain already today has 3.835 New Cases they are not on a downward slope. You only can say you are on a downward slope when your Newly Recovered is going higher every day for 7 days than your Newly Infected is going lower, the below illustrates that Spain is not flattening the curve also Italy is not see second below graph:

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While I am not sure we agree on what a downward slope means, 3800 new cases is much lower than their peak of nearly 7500 cases 10 days ago.

To me, this means the rate of increase is decreasing. It is a rate change. If you look at the new cases curve, it has reached an inflection point (did about a week ago) which means the rate of new cases has started to decrease.

Spain has 48 hours of lower figures than 72 hours ago, this is not flattening the curve, let's see if Spain can radically reduce the Newly Infected numbers on a 7 day chart.

Spain's New Recovery is also going down this means that more are dying than recovering:

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I am open to discussion on what is happening and how to interpr

Yesterday was Indianapolis's worse rise. Yesterday.
The curve isn't even beginning to curve down. What happens over a period of a few days is too short to show anything.

That's Indianapolis. The charts show that nationally deaths and new cases are decreasing. That could be temporary, but at this point it's moving in the right direction.

The trend is still going up. There will be around 15000 - 20000 deaths by Easter. Testing has been a disaster in California. Taking way too long.

You are basically correct. They will NOT listen, many of the Rightists at this forum will NOT even listen to what I am posting about COVID-19 and I'm a Rightist. I have been attempting to warn them for several weeks, but they seem to be locked into this mentality of thinking nothing is going to happen to America BECAUSE it's America. I posted a week and half ago that America was literally going to become the epicentre of COVID-19 and they all thought this was incorrect and then what occur, yes days later America became the epicentre of COVID-19. IF they won't even listen and pay attention to another Rightist on this issue they will pay attention to nobody.

smh. I am getting the same message and am a conservative, too. When medical people have to go to the dark web to get N95 quality masks, then something is wrong and medical centers are being overwhelmed. The testing which was supposed to be our first line of defense has failed or is failing. I'll be interested in those countries that have relaxed their quarantine to see whether there is a reoccurance of COVID-19.

You can look at Sweden.

They are taking some risks...but they are not being overwhelmed.

" You can look at Sweden.

They are taking some risks...but they are not being overwhelmed."

SWEDEN?! Sweden is a disaster, they have not taken ANY lockdown measure, they are all walking around and EVERYWHERE is still open. WTF?! The examples you think America should follow are a combination of Spain-Italy-Sweden. What a DANGEROUS strategy that would be. Sweden especially has done the EXACT OPPOSITE of what it should have done and they are still the ONLY nation on this Continent that has not closed ANYTHING, the whole of Sweden is open. The Government of Sweden's non-action is CRIMINAL.

Read the below article about what a disaster Sweden and their non-measures have been:

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Sweden warned 'thousands will die' as officials refuse lockdown

SWEDISH prime minister Stefan Lofven has warned the country to prepare for thousands of deaths after more than 2,000 doctors and academics criticised its laissez-faire approach to the pandemic.

www.express.co.uk

More articles:

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Did Sweden get its coronavirus strategy horribly wrong?

There are signs that the death rate in Sweden is growing faster than elsewhere in Scandinavia, raising pressure on the government to abandon its controversial hands-off approach in tackling Covid-19.

www.scmp.com

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Reuters | Breaking International News & Views

Find latest news from every corner of the globe at Reuters.com, your online source for breaking international news coverage.

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Sweden's leaving things to chance was a tremendous risk. We don't have the option of taking control measures "later" or "if it gets out of hand" -- the time to act was yesterday, as in months ago.

oh for fk sake, shut up. need another 14k of deaths today to get on par for the numbers that were used. so you are factually incorrect. We should never have done this stay at home. vitamin D kills this thing and we're all inside. so error on the experts. you lose again.

Vitamin D kills this thing. Total low IQ moron you are you stupid little Troll. Error on the experts? ROFLAO a low IQ uneducated moron like YOU saying error on the experts?

Go away stupid Troll. Vitamin D kills this thing. ROFLAO. Comedy Low IQ Troll Gold.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

"Vitamin D kills this thing..."
HAhahaha
OMG - the ignorance is off the charts.
If Vitamin D is all it took, pretty sure that would have been tried...but...NOOO.... it is a big secret...only the "smart" people know about it.... LOL
Good lord

Not only does Vitamin D not kill this thing but warmer weather also has no effect on it.

I don't know where this "Vitamin D" jazz got started but no, it doesn't kill this bug, however the warmer season -- not weather -- does have an indirect effect, in that ultraviolet (UV) light does serve to inactivate coronas. They use it in the lab to neutralize the killer virus while they study it. The warmer (summer) months tend to draw people outdoors where they get more sunlight, and the greater exposure of UV light tends to diminish flu viruses, which is why they become "seasonal" and why there is concern that the current pandemic is in the process of shifting hemispheres to attack the south of the equator as that side of the planet goes into its winter.

So getting sunshine is a good thing, not for any reason of "Vitamin D" wherever that came from. There's a fairly technical paper on it here.

Vitamin D boosts the immune system, but Vitamin D will not kill off COVID-19.

 

[james bond]

I did find the new same day test kit is made in the US. Detroit has been testing since April.

Detroit Will Receive Abbott’s Rapid COVID-19 Test Kits First, Mayor Says

The city of Detroit received the test kits manufactured by Abbott Lab on Wednesday, April 1. He added that the COVID-19 test kits will be deployed in the next 24 hours.

www.ibtimes.com

 

[Unkotare]

what is the advantage of testing? please inform me.

I tried to discuss with WillPower yesterday. If he has it, then I was hoping he would call his doctor and get tested. He was saying that he lost energy and was sleepy. It is one of the symptoms as well as the strong flu symptoms he hadn't experienced before. Then he would contact a doctor and take his recommendation, probably to get a test.

There's more to testing as it is our first line of defense.

No idea why you're fixated on me....I had something, slept it off, feel fine now. I had no high fever, no cough, sense of smell and taste were fine, etc. I know how to deal with pretty much anything that comes along. Once in Florida I got rid of mono by drinking 23 beers in 14 hours and cooking on the beach...the mono didn't stand a chance when I went after it. So relax....If I need a test or a doctor, I'll know it long before anybody else....I didn't hit age 72 by accident.

Did you put fresh batteries in your LifeAlert necklace?

 

[Unkotare]

"Vitamin D kills this thing..."
HAhahaha
OMG - the ignorance is off the charts.
If Vitamin D is all it took, pretty sure that would have been tried...but...NOOO.... it is a big secret...only the "smart" people know about it.... LOL
Good lord

Not only does Vitamin D not kill this thing but warmer weather also has no effect on it.

I don't know where this "Vitamin D" jazz got started but no, it doesn't kill this bug, however the warmer season -- not weather -- does have an indirect effect, in that ultraviolet (UV) light does serve to inactivate coronas. They use it in the lab to neutralize the killer virus while they study it. The warmer (summer) months tend to draw people outdoors where they get more sunlight, and the greater exposure of UV light tends to diminish flu viruses, which is why they become "seasonal" and why there is concern that the current pandemic is in the process of shifting hemispheres to attack the south of the equator as that side of the planet goes into its winter.

So getting sunshine is a good thing, not for any reason of "Vitamin D" wherever that came from. There's a fairly technical paper on it here.

Vitamin D boosts the immune system, but Vitamin D will not kill off COVID-19.

What about vitamin L?

 

[XponentialChaos]

1,877 deaths today. So far. Most deaths we have had.

Some people are optimistic about less new cases, but it's not all that much lower. 27,560 new cases so far. New cases are going sideways, declining slightly, but around 30,000. Deaths are going way up.

That includes a spike in several states: Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Georgia.

Globally, Spain and Italy are doing much better. France is getting slammed though. Not as bad as we are.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

1,846 deaths today. So far. Most deaths we have had.

Some people are optimistic about less new cases, but it's not all that much lower. 27,234 new cases so far. New cases are going sideways, declining slightly, but around 30,000. Deaths are going way up.

That includes a spike in several states: Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Georgia.

Globally, Spain and Italy are doing much better. France is getting slammed though. Not as bad as we are.

Ok, it's time to PANIC!!!

.00045% of Michigan's population has died of this virus as of today!!!

 

[jc456]

Yesterday was Indianapolis's worse rise. Yesterday.
The curve isn't even beginning to curve down. What happens over a period of a few days is too short to show anything.

That's Indianapolis. The charts show that nationally deaths and new cases are decreasing. That could be temporary, but at this point it's moving in the right direction.

The trend is still going up. There will be around 15000 - 20000 deaths by Easter. Testing has been a disaster in California. Taking way too long.

You are basically correct. They will NOT listen, many of the Rightists at this forum will NOT even listen to what I am posting about COVID-19 and I'm a Rightist. I have been attempting to warn them for several weeks, but they seem to be locked into this mentality of thinking nothing is going to happen to America BECAUSE it's America. I posted a week and half ago that America was literally going to become the epicentre of COVID-19 and they all thought this was incorrect and then what occur, yes days later America became the epicentre of COVID-19. IF they won't even listen and pay attention to another Rightist on this issue they will pay attention to nobody.

^^^^ So those who REFUSE to take warnings from someone like me who is on a team who has been successfully fighting COVID-19 in our nation. For those who REFUSE to take the warnings that America has not reached Peak COVID-19 New Cases OR New Deaths and that the way America has been acting during COVID-19 is going to produce something very tragic and horrific VERY VERY soon....PERHAPS you will LISTEN to America's Surgeon-General Jerome Adams who was appointed by Donald Trump he is basically saying the same things I have been attempting to WARN you about. Also NO you do NOT have a downward trend, you are NOT approaching flattening the curve, what you have is an upward trend that is going to get worse ALL based on scientific data:

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Surgeon General: “This week will be our Pearl Harbor moment because of Covid-19”

The United States has still not reached the peak of the coronavirus crisis. Surgeon General Jerome Adams gave the nation a stark warning.

en.as.com

based on what? what makes it pearl harbor week?

 

[XponentialChaos]

1,846 deaths today. So far. Most deaths we have had.

Some people are optimistic about less new cases, but it's not all that much lower. 27,234 new cases so far. New cases are going sideways, declining slightly, but around 30,000. Deaths are going way up.

That includes a spike in several states: Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Georgia.

Globally, Spain and Italy are doing much better. France is getting slammed though. Not as bad as we are.

Ok, it's time to PANIC!!!

.00045% of Michigan's population has died of this virus as of today!!!

Yea, I guess you're right. Everything is going great.