CDZ Official are asking how the "Pulse" gunman could have pulled off his deed....

[320 Years of History]

I just saw on CNN that investigators are trying to figure out how the man who killed some 50 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando was able to effect his heinous act. Say what? How hard could it have been?

He went to a store and bought a gun and ammunition. Perhaps he read the operating instructions that came with the gun. He went to the club, followed the operating instructions, and fired the gun at scores of unarmed people. The people he killed and wounded weren't protected by personal security teams. The club didn't have any special security measures. It was a nightclub on a Saturday night; the place was surely packed wall to wall with revelers, many of whom were no doubt in varying states of inebriation. How complicated can it be to kill folks like that?

What is there to wonder about how the man could have done what he did? If there's a question to ask, it's why he did it not how he did it. It's not like the deed was one that took a lot of complex planning to make it happen.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

I just saw on CNN that investigators are trying to figure out how the man who killed some 50 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando was able to effect his heinous act. Say what? How hard could it have been?

He went to a store and bought a gun and ammunition. Perhaps he read the operating instructions that came with the gun. He went to the club, followed the operating instructions, and fired the gun at scores of unarmed people. The people he killed and wounded weren't protected by personal security teams. The club didn't have any special security measures. It was a nightclub on a Saturday night; the place was surely packed wall to wall with revelers, many of whom were no doubt in varying states of inebriation. How complicated can it be to kill folks like that?

What is there to wonder about how the man could have done what he did? If there's a question to ask, it's why he did it not how he did it. It's not like the deed was one that took a lot of complex planning to make it happen.

The question should be is how the FBI that investigated him at least three times and the ATF and Homeland Security failed not flagging this individual because this might have been stopped if they had flagged him in the system?

They would not been able to prevent him from buying the firearm but they sure the hell could have flagged him and investigated and did surveillance on him when he bought the weapons and ammo and they did none of this!

If they can tap our phones through the NSA then there is no damn way anyone can claim they couldn't have flagged that monster!

 

[320 Years of History]

They would not been able to prevent him from buying the firearm but they sure the hell could have flagged him and investigated and did surveillance on him when he bought the weapons and ammo and they did none of this!

Where have you been? It's been all over the news that the FBI did have him under surveillance for a time, ten months in fact. What are they to do? Put someone under surveillance forever, even when doing so turns up nothing of note indicating the person is actually a threat?

• Why the FBI Dropped the Orlando Shooter Investigation
  
• Omar Mateen: From Early Promise to F.B.I. Surveillance
  
• Video: FBI Reveals Omar Mateen Was Under Surveillance For 10 Months
  
• Omar Mateen took two trips to Saudi Arabia, in 2011 and 2012 for pilgrimages, claimed to know Boston Marathon bombers and tried to buy military-grade body armor from store weeks before Orlando gay club massacre
  
• Terrorist Omar Mateen, 29, was investigated by FBI
  
• FBI Tracked Orlando Killer Omar Mateen and Came Up Empty
  
• How Did the FBI Miss Omar Mateen?

If they can tap our phones through the NSA then there is no damn way anyone can claim they couldn't have flagged that monster!

The guy was a lone gunman. What good was a phone tap going to do? Do you have reason to think the man called and talked to himself about his plans to shoot up that club?

 

[OldLady]

I just saw on CNN that investigators are trying to figure out how the man who killed some 50 people at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando was able to effect his heinous act. Say what? How hard could it have been?

He went to a store and bought a gun and ammunition. Perhaps he read the operating instructions that came with the gun. He went to the club, followed the operating instructions, and fired the gun at scores of unarmed people. The people he killed and wounded weren't protected by personal security teams. The club didn't have any special security measures. It was a nightclub on a Saturday night; the place was surely packed wall to wall with revelers, many of whom were no doubt in varying states of inebriation. How complicated can it be to kill folks like that?

What is there to wonder about how the man could have done what he did? If there's a question to ask, it's why he did it not how he did it. It's not like the deed was one that took a lot of complex planning to make it happen.

The question should be is how the FBI that investigated him at least three times and the ATF and Homeland Security failed not flagging this individual because this might have been stopped if they had flagged him in the system?

They would not been able to prevent him from buying the firearm but they sure the hell could have flagged him and investigated and did surveillance on him when he bought the weapons and ammo and they did none of this!

If they can tap our phones through the NSA then there is no damn way anyone can claim they couldn't have flagged that monster!

I heard on the news that the FBI did have the report on their desk that he had purchased the guns, 5 days prior to the attack, but they just don't have the adequate personnel to respond in a timely fashion to every routine report like this. They get too many, there are too few of them.
Yes, it is frustrating.
I used to have a job investigating reports of child abuse/neglect. We had far less time and far less power than the FBI to investigate the reports, and sometimes I closed investigations with no findings knowing full well that the kid(s) were in a bad place. The laws are the laws and evidence is evidence, and unfortunately when an individual is mentally unbalanced--which Mateen may have been if his first wife wasn't informally diagnosing him as bi-polar--it is very difficult to predict if they're just blowing hot air or if they mean it. He had made boasts in the past that weren't true (like knowing the Boston bombers) and like many abusers, he was apparently a master at control.
Let's give the FBI a BIG raise and get enough people in there to respond in a timely fashion when a red flag is raised.