Official 2020 November Election Thread.

[candycorn]

Michigan isn't over:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference

According to Wikipedia.
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Tonight according to NPR...

So far in Michigan...Trump has roughly 2,240,000 votes. Biden has 2,000,000 roughly. Total is 4,240,000 roughly. In 2016 is was 4,500,000. So there would be roughly about a quarter of a million votes still out there if turnout is the same as it was in 2016. Its a very safe assumption that turnout was greater this year given there is also a senate race.

Looks pretty Bad for Joe right now but that can change.

 

[Bulletbob]

Running way ahead of Clinton’s votes. Tells me Pennsylvania is safe for Dems

Wrong its not at all

 

[Osiris-ODS]

Biden has taken the lead in WI. That's not good for Trump since most of the outstanding votes are in Dem-leaning counties. If Trump loses WI, he is going to need GA, because if GA goes Biden, Trump would need to run the table with MI, WI and PA.

 

[candycorn]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

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So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

Interesting week coming up.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Biden has taken the lead in WI. That's not good for Trump since most of the outstanding votes are in Dem-leaning counties. If Trump loses WI, he is going to need GA, because if GA goes Biden, Trump would need to run the table with MI, WI and PA.

Some are dissecting the data and claiming that total vote went from 92 to 95%, and in that 3% Joe gained 120,000 when it could only be 66,000 max.

This is going to the courts. Worse, Internationally and in the court of public opinion, citizens will have lost faith. The costs are immense. I've heard no credible reason why multiple states that Trump was leading in, suddenly stopped counting.

It's all over social media. Even Dems can't take solace in it. Dems are Americans too and they aren't all far left socialists.

 

[MisterBeale]

There we are

Thank Mr President!

You won!

Lol you idiots believe anything he says. Trump doesn’t decide who wins. Votes do.

Dude, you still did not accept he won in 2016, so it matter not about votes when it come to you!

I am telling you there is no way Biden is going to win Pennsylvania nor will he win the Electoral College and there is a slight chance Biden loses the damn popular vote to Trump!

Lol you’re so goddamn stupid. I never disputed the legitimacy of Trump’s win. You’re also a moron if you think Trump will win the popular vote. You’re one of those dumbasses who pretends to be a Biden supporter but just agrees with anything Trumptards say. It’s so pathetic.

Also let me add those like you are delusional and can not accept Trump should have lost this election and the Democrats went far left and gave the man and GOP another victory when there should have been none at all!

Biden had to win Ohio and did not and once Trump got Florida and Ohio the reality is Biden had no chance of winning!

You do not take Harris as VP nor do you proclaim you will end the Oil Industry and when I saw the markets the last two days I knew Trump had a chance to win because the Markets were betting on the red wave this entire board warned us about!

So get your head out of your *** and realize Trump won and I did not want another four ******* years of the man at all!

Lol you know nothing about how this election works. Biden did not need Ohio. In fact, he just won Arizona. More proof that he never needed it. Biden is currently ahead in the electoral vote therefore declaring Trump the victor makes you all look like retards. You notice how I am not declaring Biden the winner? It’s because this shit is far from over.

Bruce is one of the most sane members of this forum.

He has proven, time and again that he is impervious to propaganda.

You?

Not so much.


If international observers and university exit pollsters had all calculated that Trump had won the election? You would deny it if MSLSD told you that there were still votes that needed to be counted and it was a questionable outcome.

Back in the old days, we all knew, the ONLY polls that were reliable, were exit polls, now? Corporate media has conditioned folks to believe that these are somehow less reliable than random pre-election polling?



Seriously?

I you are not with them you are against them...

Jim Bowie and I have a bet on our Avatars and I took Biden to win, and have stated since about March that I believed Biden would win and Coyote can tell Billy this if he need a moderator to explain it to him!

I am LIBERAL and not Progressive but those like Billy believe if I do not toe the line then I am the enemy and I have to admit I do attack Billy a lot for his trolling because he does it for all the wrong reasons!

I do not see any path for Biden to win and if I did I would be the first to say so...

North Carolina is Trump with 100% of the vote in.

Arizona was going blue because of Mark Kelly and not Biden and Harris...

Biden needed Ohio for a clear path to victory and sure Biden could still pull a miracle out with a Pennsylvania and Michigan victory but I am betting against it...

Now with that written those like Billy need to know my hatred for Trump stems from decades of hate and not just some MSM hype nonsense because he is a damn Republican!

I know Trump well enough to say anyone think they know what he is thinking, well you do not and if you think you have him beat, well think again!

The man is one tough person that I hate with a damn passion but I have to admire the fact the snake in the grass never give up!

So let me be clear I voted for Biden holding my nose but if Trump does win I will accept his victory and know Jim Bowie and a few other posters will make me eat my crow but in the end Trump won and I will accept it unlike Billy!

Billy has well detailed history of showing he has not nor will he accept any victory from any Republican and also let be clear Billy support a one political party system and believe the Democratic Party should be more like what AOC want and throw blue dogs like myself out which is why I have been going third party so many times...

If you have payed attention to buttercup and I at all, you would have clued into the fact that neither of us feel that Trump is who he pretends to be. Or, if you have read my Stay Informed thread, you would know this already.

I feel you are correct.

. . . but, the alternative, is, sadly, no option either.

I have studied his history intensively.

This has been a 100 year movement and the left have been running roughshod over democracies or free market nations and they have been using their political correctness strategy after WWI proved karl marx wrong.

We can see the same pattern over and over again. It isn't a hard sell for leftists to convince people who believe they are victimized that they are victimized. Meaning, the poor in a free market nation are easily seduced. However, interestingly the poor in free market nations never flee that nation which is a clear indicator that are not being oppressed or persecuted. Cause when there is true persecution, there are people in mass numbers that flee.

The Berlin wall and borders around communist satellite nations were built to keep people in, not to keep people out. There were no documented cases of people trying to break into East Germany to live there and when the Berlin wall came down, there were great celebrations.

Geee, I wonder why. Yet, the left in THIS COUNTRY push marxism and refuse to answer any of those questions. The power of propaganda and the power of group think along with the realities of conformity is what we are up against.

All of this plays out the same way, except when America finally falls, there will be no place on earth to flee to. Nowhere. For many decades, those oppressed were desperate to get here. When that is taken away, there will be no place to go.

So, there won't be a choice but to either fight or be eliminated. Mainly by starvation, we will be eliminated. The only choice will be to fight. Armageddon.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Looks like New York City is sending another communist to Congress. lol.

Jamaal Bowman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Snouter]

Engel was a radical zionist neocon Jewish person, who promoted qu33rs over normal people, so the Black power nutcase who defeated him is the lesser of two evils.

Candycorn, wikipedia is as fake as NPR for everything political. Is that why you are brainwashed? Fake News MSM, Fake News NPR, and Censored Wikipedia. Do you ever ask yourself, "Do I have a brain or a half gig (at most) Sandisk in my cranium?"

 

[Natural Citizen]

Looks like a dead guy won a North Dakota congressional seat.

Guess they'll replace him. lol.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Michigan isn't over:

In 2016:
Michigan. Trump got 2,279,543 votes. Hillary got 2,268,839 votes. 10,704 difference

According to Wikipedia.
----
Tonight according to NPR...

So far in Michigan...Trump has roughly 2,240,000 votes. Biden has 2,000,000 roughly. Total is 4,240,000 roughly. In 2016 is was 4,500,000. So there would be roughly about a quarter of a million votes still out there if turnout is the same as it was in 2016. Its a very safe assumption that turnout was greater this year given there is also a senate race.

Looks pretty Bad for Joe right now but that can change.

Put Michigan in leans red.

A few more votes get counted...and if it does not close the gap.....call it.

BTW: It appears that John James is kicking ass.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I can't believe Lindsey won. He was definitely an underdog.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

 

[candycorn]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

Since you're being uncharacteristically civil, I'll grant you a response:

You'd expect the 680,000 votes that went to the DEMs in 2016 to go to the Republicans in that case....not just vanish. They didn't.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

Since you're being uncharacteristically civil, I'll grant you a response:

You'd expect the 680,000 votes that went to the DEMs in 2016 to go to the Republicans in that case....not just vanish. They didn't.

Sorry....but the dynamics don't fit your wish.

 

[candycorn]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

Since you're being uncharacteristically civil, I'll grant you a response:

You'd expect the 680,000 votes that went to the DEMs in 2016 to go to the Republicans in that case....not just vanish. They didn't.

Sorry....but the dynamics don't fit your wish.

Okay... If I understand what you're saying...you are stating that the the 700,000 or so people who voted for Hillary just sat out this election. Is that correct? Trump's numbers are down too.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

Since you're being uncharacteristically civil, I'll grant you a response:

You'd expect the 680,000 votes that went to the DEMs in 2016 to go to the Republicans in that case....not just vanish. They didn't.

Sorry....but the dynamics don't fit your wish.

Okay... If I understand what you're saying...you are stating that the the 700,000 or so people who voted for Hillary just sat out this election. Is that correct? Trump's numbers are down too.

They've counted everything ?

The last I read...there were a lot of votes still out there.

Are they reporting 100%.

 

[Correll]

President Trump is getting more of that black vote than any republican president.

Are the racist republican never Trumpers going to call him racist now?

I noticed that. Very interesting.

 

[candycorn]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

Since you're being uncharacteristically civil, I'll grant you a response:

You'd expect the 680,000 votes that went to the DEMs in 2016 to go to the Republicans in that case....not just vanish. They didn't.

Sorry....but the dynamics don't fit your wish.

Okay... If I understand what you're saying...you are stating that the the 700,000 or so people who voted for Hillary just sat out this election. Is that correct? Trump's numbers are down too.

They've counted everything ?

The last I read...there were a lot of votes still out there.

Are they reporting 100%.

"So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did. "

 

[Sun Devil 92]

And just to finish the tour of the 3 states....Pennsylvania:

In 2016:
Pennsylvania. Trump got 2,970,733 votes. Hillary got 2,926,441 votes. 44,292 difference

That is according to Wikipedia:

---

So far tonight: According to Foxnews.

Blob has 2,965,636 He's down 35,000 +/- votes so far.
Biden has 2,290,624 He's down about 680,000 +/- so far.

I suppose it is possible that someone who was born in PA and lives in neighboring Delaware is off the pace of 2016 by nearly 3/4 of a million votes and if the 3/4 of a million went to the other guy...it would account for it. But it didn't.

So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did.

He has grounds to challenge in my view.

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Interesting week coming up.

You don't shoot off your mouth about fracking in a state where it means a lot to people and expect not to get hurt.

Since you're being uncharacteristically civil, I'll grant you a response:

You'd expect the 680,000 votes that went to the DEMs in 2016 to go to the Republicans in that case....not just vanish. They didn't.

Sorry....but the dynamics don't fit your wish.

Okay... If I understand what you're saying...you are stating that the the 700,000 or so people who voted for Hillary just sat out this election. Is that correct? Trump's numbers are down too.

They've counted everything ?

The last I read...there were a lot of votes still out there.

Are they reporting 100%.

"So I don't think Biden has 3/4 of a million votes still out there but he certainly has a very high percentage of the votes yet to be counted. There is no way he does that much less business than Hillary did. "

You don't think......

I have no idea.......

If you are right....big question.

Since I have no idea....I'll wait and see.

 

[Theowl32]

President Trump is getting more of that black vote than any republican president.

Are the racist republican never Trumpers going to call him racist now?

I noticed that. Very interesting.

The left, only have identity politics and that's it. Without the race card, they are like cobras without venom. All but useless.

They will either ignore those dubious facts that flies in the face of their long 7 decade old narrative, or spin it in a way where they will call those negroes uncle Toms. Something to that effect.

The democrats are NOTHING without their identity politics and that means they need as many people as possible to BELIEVE they are victims of ****** righty.

That is virtually their entire strategy to extrapolate power from we the people.