[OFFICIAL] 2015 USMB STATE OF THE UNION

[toxicmedia]

Gerrymandering is unfair bullshit no matter where it is, or who does it.

Like I said, it's hypocritical to act like only the GOP does it. BTW most of the districts in the Houston area were drawn by the courts to give more advantage to blacks and latinos You know, like shelia jackass lee and al green..

The GOP has elevated it to an art. Especially in Texas. Houston was trimmed back by the courts after the right wing tried to completely shut out blacks and latinos.

**** off little puppy hypocrite, you just refuse to admit that your party is just as bad when given the opportunity. Now go lick your ass, you are really starting to smell.

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

May be you should be aware of the history between myself and that particular poster before putting your foot in your mouth.

it's adorable you'd think that I would be concerned with your assessment of where my foot is.

I'm positive you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win, when the GOP takes back the white house. It's what you did before, during the Bush admin

 

[Redfish]

**** off little puppy hypocrite, you just refuse to admit that your party is just as bad when given the opportunity. Now go lick your ass, you are really starting to smell.

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

nope, wrong again. Bush was criticized constantly from the right, but we are still waiting for the first lefty to criticize obozo the kenyan messiah.

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

nope, thats not at all correct. I have lived for over 65 years and have watched this country go from a place where anyone could succeed and the govt left citizens alone to succeed or fail on their own, to a cheap carbon copy of failed european socialism.

Obama clearly does not understand this country, its history, and its people. He is determined to bring it down for what he views as its arrogance and success that he believes was at the expense of others.

He is the worst president in our history. I cannot think of one thing he has done that has helped the USA or its citizens.

stating facts, as I have done, is not being irrational. Blind obedience and messianic worship as displayed by you is the definition of irrational.

 

[toxicmedia]

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

nope, wrong again. Bush was criticized constantly from the right, but we are still waiting for the first lefty to criticize obozo the kenyan messiah.

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

nope, thats not at all correct. I have lived for over 65 years and have watched this country go from a place where anyone could succeed and the govt left citizens alone to succeed or fail on their own, to a cheap carbon copy of failed european socialism.

Obama clearly does not understand this country, its history, and its people. He is determined to bring it down for what he views as its arrogance and success that he believes was at the expense of others.

He is the worst president in our history. I cannot think of one thing he has done that has helped the USA or its citizens.

stating facts, as I have done, is not being irrational. Blind obedience and messianic worship as displayed by you is the definition of irrational.

That's the problem...you're over 65....

I mean that jokingly. I have much respect for this country's greatest generation (those born in the 1930's) but I'm not so sure about those born in the 50's, and 60's. They're either liberal Democratic hippies or angry Republican rednecks.

I've lived over 50 years, and I saw this country suck in the 70's, then get good for the 80's and 90's, then start sucking again from 2000-on.

If you think that post WWII prosperity bublle happened because Americans are exceptional, you'll never be anything but disspointed in Americans who lived after it. In 1946, the US was the only power that didn't need to be rebuilt, now the world has caught up. There is NOTHING any president, liberal, or conservative, could do to stop that.

You need to believe things are turning to crap because that's the narrative repeated by conservative media, and maybe it's your life that sucks all on it's own.

Things are way better for me than they have ever been, because I'm self reliant, and getting moreso every year. I'm not a union employee, or on medicare/social security, and I'm rewarded for excellence. I'm also a liberal.

I don't worship Obama, nor do I know any of his supporters who do. That in itself shows you're impressionable, and underexposed to what liberals say, yet overexposed to what conservatives say liberals say

 

[RKMBrown]

I'm not sure I completely agree with the OP...but I have noticed some odd behavior from my Fox News watching friends in the last 24 hours.

I think the most difficult, yet potentially beneficial, aspect of the SOTU address was that Fox News isolationists had to venture out of the conservative cocoon, and see people clapping for Obama. That in itself was a shock to them. Furthermore, they heard Obama talk, which Fox News only allows in small out of context bits. When they do that, they can control the commentary to mitigate anything that might be positive. Basically, Fox News doesn't show Obama speeches much at all, instead, they tell you what he "really" meant.

So after this shock, my 2 room mates who walked out of Obama's speech in a huff, returned after the GOP response and demanded to put Fox News on. They looked confused and very frustrated. One of my room mates went from muttering about the real unemployment rate, to stomping around with resignation as if I could never understand. The other room mate tried to use the bathroom this morning, the same time I have taken a shower every day for the last 6 months, and when I shut the door in his face he said "this is two you owe me"...I know the first thing he thought I owed him was his sanity back, because of having to listen to Obama for 45 minutes.

But now, after work, they're starting to get back to normal. They're only giving me the stink eye when I catch them looking at me. But they're being about as cordial as people are towards others when they've squashed a disagreement. It's the look of moving on, but not forgetting what I've done to them.

When I watched Fox and Friends this morning with the one who tied to squeeze me out of my shower time, he pouted the whole time, as opposed to joking with me about which color dress looks good, or bad, on Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

Fox News and the GOP launched a huge narrative today, and that is simply "It's horrible right now, what was Obama thinking!"...that seems to give righties comfort. And as misguided as Fox viewers can get...I don't like seeing my buddies suffer. It wasn't near as bad as when Romney lost...they all went through the 5 stages of grieving...denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance...and that took a month.

So chin up righties...just you go on thinking Obama is a secret socialist Nazi communist Muslim. It pains me to see you all so blue.

Get well soon!

You must have been watching a different speech than I did. What I saw was a grossly out of touch individual, about 70% of Americans say the country is on the wrong track, he proved last night that he as yet to get a clue. I thought it was hilarious. All he did is try to position talking points for the commiecrats going into the 2016 elections and now he's hitting the campaign trail to push those talking point, knowing full well most of his crap is dead on arrival in the congress.

70% probably do feel the country is on the wrong track, but what makes you think the entire 70% blame Obama for that? With congressional approval rates in the teens and the presidents approval near 50% It's pretty dumb to try to lay that 70% on him. Of course, you are a teabagger, so I guess that is a little too complicated for you to understand. Of course he is trying to counter the misinformation from the right. Anyone who cares about the welfare of the country would do the same.

That whole "country on the wrong track" is the most misused poll ever.

I think the country is on the wrong track too.

But it's on the wrong track because the GOP is in the middle of another over-reach. They've gerrymandered districts for the last 10 years, and because righties like to live in rural areas,

I'm not sure I completely agree with the OP...but I have noticed some odd behavior from my Fox News watching friends in the last 24 hours.

I think the most difficult, yet potentially beneficial, aspect of the SOTU address was that Fox News isolationists had to venture out of the conservative cocoon, and see people clapping for Obama. That in itself was a shock to them. Furthermore, they heard Obama talk, which Fox News only allows in small out of context bits. When they do that, they can control the commentary to mitigate anything that might be positive. Basically, Fox News doesn't show Obama speeches much at all, instead, they tell you what he "really" meant.

So after this shock, my 2 room mates who walked out of Obama's speech in a huff, returned after the GOP response and demanded to put Fox News on. They looked confused and very frustrated. One of my room mates went from muttering about the real unemployment rate, to stomping around with resignation as if I could never understand. The other room mate tried to use the bathroom this morning, the same time I have taken a shower every day for the last 6 months, and when I shut the door in his face he said "this is two you owe me"...I know the first thing he thought I owed him was his sanity back, because of having to listen to Obama for 45 minutes.

But now, after work, they're starting to get back to normal. They're only giving me the stink eye when I catch them looking at me. But they're being about as cordial as people are towards others when they've squashed a disagreement. It's the look of moving on, but not forgetting what I've done to them.

When I watched Fox and Friends this morning with the one who tied to squeeze me out of my shower time, he pouted the whole time, as opposed to joking with me about which color dress looks good, or bad, on Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

Fox News and the GOP launched a huge narrative today, and that is simply "It's horrible right now, what was Obama thinking!"...that seems to give righties comfort. And as misguided as Fox viewers can get...I don't like seeing my buddies suffer. It wasn't near as bad as when Romney lost...they all went through the 5 stages of grieving...denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance...and that took a month.

So chin up righties...just you go on thinking Obama is a secret socialist Nazi communist Muslim. It pains me to see you all so blue.

Get well soon!

You must have been watching a different speech than I did. What I saw was a grossly out of touch individual, about 70% of Americans say the country is on the wrong track, he proved last night that he as yet to get a clue. I thought it was hilarious. All he did is try to position talking points for the commiecrats going into the 2016 elections and now he's hitting the campaign trail to push those talking point, knowing full well most of his crap is dead on arrival in the congress.

You're on the high functioning end of the Fox News viewership. You sat through the whole thing.

Count your blessings

The observations are mine, I haven't watched much news since the speech went off.

Well then you're on a short list of righties who watched the speech, didn't agree with it, and don't need Fox News to make them feel better.

Is gerrymandering only wrong when republicans do it, or is it also wrong when democrats do it? You do realize that gerrymandering is controlled by the individual states and that the democrats are running some states, right?

Is gerrymandering good when it reverses prior gerrymandering? How should districts be defined? By roads? By natural landmarks? By regional boundaries? What are the right ways to do this and the wrong ways to do this? We await your blessing.

 

[RKMBrown]

Why is it you imply that gerrymandering is unique to the GOP? You only need look at the way legislative district lines are drawn in dem controlled states to know that isn't true. But remember elections do have consequences. some good, some bad.

You might want to look at the gerrymandering around Austin or Houston. Disgusting.

It's no worse than your dear leaders home state.

Gerrymandering is unfair bullshit no matter where it is, or who does it.

Like I said, it's hypocritical to act like only the GOP does it. BTW most of the districts in the Houston area were drawn by the courts to give more advantage to blacks and latinos You know, like shelia jackass lee and al green..

The GOP has elevated it to an art. Especially in Texas. Houston was trimmed back by the courts after the right wing tried to completely shut out blacks and latinos.

How does one shut out blacks and latinos? How do you do that? Do blacks and latinos just stop voting if they don't have a majority in a district? Or is it that the democrats only spend money on districts they can sway cause they own large portions of blacks and latinos? How is it that democrats own these blacks and latinos? How much does your vote cost?

 

[DriftingSand]

Barack Hussein Obama, you are a liar. You have always been a liar.

If these proposals are so great for the middle class, then why did you wait until there was absolutely no chance of getting them passed to propose them?

Don't answer that Barack, you'll just lie. I will answer it with the truth:

The reason you didn't propose this nonsense until now is because you don't really want them to pass. You don't REALLY give a shit about the middle class, you just know that they GOP won't pass it and so then you will be putting the blame on them. You are setting up your low information base with a big fat lie to rally behind for the POTUS race coming up.

You are the Liar-In-Chief and the worst president in the history of the US.

^^Precisely what he said!^^

 

[BULLDOG]

You might want to look at the gerrymandering around Austin or Houston. Disgusting.

It's no worse than your dear leaders home state.

Gerrymandering is unfair bullshit no matter where it is, or who does it.

Like I said, it's hypocritical to act like only the GOP does it. BTW most of the districts in the Houston area were drawn by the courts to give more advantage to blacks and latinos You know, like shelia jackass lee and al green..

The GOP has elevated it to an art. Especially in Texas. Houston was trimmed back by the courts after the right wing tried to completely shut out blacks and latinos.

How does one shut out blacks and latinos? How do you do that? Do blacks and latinos just stop voting if they don't have a majority in a district? Or is it that the democrats only spend money on districts they can sway cause they own large portions of blacks and latinos? How is it that democrats own these blacks and latinos? How much does your vote cost?

Perhaps you should find out what gerrymandering is before you ask such silly questions.

 

[RKMBrown]

It's no worse than your dear leaders home state.

Gerrymandering is unfair bullshit no matter where it is, or who does it.

Like I said, it's hypocritical to act like only the GOP does it. BTW most of the districts in the Houston area were drawn by the courts to give more advantage to blacks and latinos You know, like shelia jackass lee and al green..

The GOP has elevated it to an art. Especially in Texas. Houston was trimmed back by the courts after the right wing tried to completely shut out blacks and latinos.

How does one shut out blacks and latinos? How do you do that? Do blacks and latinos just stop voting if they don't have a majority in a district? Or is it that the democrats only spend money on districts they can sway cause they own large portions of blacks and latinos? How is it that democrats own these blacks and latinos? How much does your vote cost?

Perhaps you should find out what gerrymandering is before you ask such silly questions.

IOW you're just blowing smoke.

 

[OKTexas]

**** off little puppy hypocrite, you just refuse to admit that your party is just as bad when given the opportunity. Now go lick your ass, you are really starting to smell.

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

nope, wrong again. Bush was criticized constantly from the right, but we are still waiting for the first lefty to criticize obozo the kenyan messiah.

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

Only positive I've seen about the man is he appears to be a good family man.

He is also a suppose constitutional scholar who has no respect or reverence for the Constitution or the founding principles. He was born to Marxist, raised by Marxist and by his own admissions sought out the most radical people he could find as a young adult.

He has no executive experience and it shows, just look at the radicals he surrounds himself with, I have zero respect for the man.

 

[OKTexas]

Like I said, it's hypocritical to act like only the GOP does it. BTW most of the districts in the Houston area were drawn by the courts to give more advantage to blacks and latinos You know, like shelia jackass lee and al green..

The GOP has elevated it to an art. Especially in Texas. Houston was trimmed back by the courts after the right wing tried to completely shut out blacks and latinos.

**** off little puppy hypocrite, you just refuse to admit that your party is just as bad when given the opportunity. Now go lick your ass, you are really starting to smell.

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

May be you should be aware of the history between myself and that particular poster before putting your foot in your mouth.

it's adorable you'd think that I would be concerned with your assessment of where my foot is.

I'm positive you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win, when the GOP takes back the white house. It's what you did before, during the Bush admin

That just proves you don't know me, I was on my congresscritters just as much when Bush was in office as now. The patriot act and the TSA were two of the biggest mistakes this country has ever seen and I am still lobbying to get both scrapped.

 

[toxicmedia]

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

nope, wrong again. Bush was criticized constantly from the right, but we are still waiting for the first lefty to criticize obozo the kenyan messiah.

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

Only positive I've seen about the man is he appears to be a good family man.

He is also a suppose constitutional scholar who has no respect or reverence for the Constitution or the founding principles. He was born to Marxist, raised by Marxist and by his own admissions sought out the most radical people he could find as a young adult.

He has no executive experience and it shows, just look at the radicals he surrounds himself with, I have zero respect for the man.

What you just wrote was regurgitated righty media hysteria, based solely on what righties "think he really means"

That's the problem I spoke of earlier....righty media fans don't ever hear Obama's words, or consider his actions. They just hear about how messed up what he did was, how ineffective he is, and what they say he "really means".

None of which seems true. Obama has not implemented programs that would result in a socialist sysem of government in the US, which is what Marxism is. He knows more about the constitution than probably anyone in righty media does, and probably more than most Tea Partiers.

You need to think what you're saying through....

You've allowed yourself to believe...a Professor of Consitutional Law from Northwestern, a Harvard Law graduate, and I could go on.....doesn't know anything about the constitution.

That's like saying Ben Carson knows nothing about Neurosurgery.

Or John McCain knows nothing about flying a jet

 

[toxicmedia]

The GOP has elevated it to an art. Especially in Texas. Houston was trimmed back by the courts after the right wing tried to completely shut out blacks and latinos.

**** off little puppy hypocrite, you just refuse to admit that your party is just as bad when given the opportunity. Now go lick your ass, you are really starting to smell.

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

May be you should be aware of the history between myself and that particular poster before putting your foot in your mouth.

it's adorable you'd think that I would be concerned with your assessment of where my foot is.

I'm positive you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win, when the GOP takes back the white house. It's what you did before, during the Bush admin

That just proves you don't know me, I was on my congresscritters just as much when Bush was in office as now. The patriot act and the TSA were two of the biggest mistakes this country has ever seen and I am still lobbying to get both scrapped.

Well, than that's where we differ.

For me the glass if half full, and I look for rationality and good in people

For you, the glass is half empty, and you're probably better at recognizing threats than me, but maybe see some when they don't exist.

 

[Redfish]

nope, wrong again. Bush was criticized constantly from the right, but we are still waiting for the first lefty to criticize obozo the kenyan messiah.

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

nope, thats not at all correct. I have lived for over 65 years and have watched this country go from a place where anyone could succeed and the govt left citizens alone to succeed or fail on their own, to a cheap carbon copy of failed european socialism.

Obama clearly does not understand this country, its history, and its people. He is determined to bring it down for what he views as its arrogance and success that he believes was at the expense of others.

He is the worst president in our history. I cannot think of one thing he has done that has helped the USA or its citizens.

stating facts, as I have done, is not being irrational. Blind obedience and messianic worship as displayed by you is the definition of irrational.

That's the problem...you're over 65....

I mean that jokingly. I have much respect for this country's greatest generation (those born in the 1930's) but I'm not so sure about those born in the 50's, and 60's. They're either liberal Democratic hippies or angry Republican rednecks.

I've lived over 50 years, and I saw this country suck in the 70's, then get good for the 80's and 90's, then start sucking again from 2000-on.

If you think that post WWII prosperity bublle happened because Americans are exceptional, you'll never be anything but disspointed in Americans who lived after it. In 1946, the US was the only power that didn't need to be rebuilt, now the world has caught up. There is NOTHING any president, liberal, or conservative, could do to stop that.

You need to believe things are turning to crap because that's the narrative repeated by conservative media, and maybe it's your life that sucks all on it's own.

Things are way better for me than they have ever been, because I'm self reliant, and getting moreso every year. I'm not a union employee, or on medicare/social security, and I'm rewarded for excellence. I'm also a liberal.

I don't worship Obama, nor do I know any of his supporters who do. That in itself shows you're impressionable, and underexposed to what liberals say, yet overexposed to what conservatives say liberals say

The USA is still the greatest country in the history of the world, in spite of having the worst president in history for the last 6 years.

My issue is that the liberal progressive collectivist mentality being pushed by obama, the media, academia, and the ignorant will bring the country down if it is not stopped.

18 trillion in debt with no end in sight, more on welfare than ever before, more on foodstamps than ever before, low approval ratings for the entire government, terrible foreign policy, failed domestic policy.

Yes, we are going down the tubes unless some significant changes are made.

 

[OKTexas]

nope, wrong again. Bush was criticized constantly from the right, but we are still waiting for the first lefty to criticize obozo the kenyan messiah.

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

Only positive I've seen about the man is he appears to be a good family man.

He is also a suppose constitutional scholar who has no respect or reverence for the Constitution or the founding principles. He was born to Marxist, raised by Marxist and by his own admissions sought out the most radical people he could find as a young adult.

He has no executive experience and it shows, just look at the radicals he surrounds himself with, I have zero respect for the man.

What you just wrote was regurgitated righty media hysteria, based solely on what righties "think he really means"

That's the problem I spoke of earlier....righty media fans don't ever hear Obama's words, or consider his actions. They just hear about how messed up what he did was, how ineffective he is, and what they say he "really means".

None of which seems true. Obama has not implemented programs that would result in a socialist sysem of government in the US, which is what Marxism is. He knows more about the constitution than probably anyone in righty media does, and probably more than most Tea Partiers.

You need to think what you're saying through....

You've allowed yourself to believe...a Professor of Consitutional Law from Northwestern, a Harvard Law graduate, and I could go on.....doesn't know anything about the constitution.

That's like saying Ben Carson knows nothing about Neurosurgery.

Or John McCain knows nothing about flying a jet

Damn you talk a good game, but fail to consider that the Supreme Court, other constitutional scholars and judges have disagreed with his actions. The Supreme Court has ruled against him 9-0 like 7 times, not a presidential record but significant considering he is a supposed constitutional professor, you'd think he would know better.

 

[OKTexas]

**** off little puppy hypocrite, you just refuse to admit that your party is just as bad when given the opportunity. Now go lick your ass, you are really starting to smell.

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

May be you should be aware of the history between myself and that particular poster before putting your foot in your mouth.

it's adorable you'd think that I would be concerned with your assessment of where my foot is.

I'm positive you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win, when the GOP takes back the white house. It's what you did before, during the Bush admin

That just proves you don't know me, I was on my congresscritters just as much when Bush was in office as now. The patriot act and the TSA were two of the biggest mistakes this country has ever seen and I am still lobbying to get both scrapped.

Well, than that's where we differ.

For me the glass if half full, and I look for rationality and good in people

For you, the glass is half empty, and you're probably better at recognizing threats than me, but maybe see some when they don't exist.

Even your dear leader said he wouldn't reauthorize the patriot act, he lied, again.

 

[toxicmedia]

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

nope, thats not at all correct. I have lived for over 65 years and have watched this country go from a place where anyone could succeed and the govt left citizens alone to succeed or fail on their own, to a cheap carbon copy of failed european socialism.

Obama clearly does not understand this country, its history, and its people. He is determined to bring it down for what he views as its arrogance and success that he believes was at the expense of others.

He is the worst president in our history. I cannot think of one thing he has done that has helped the USA or its citizens.

stating facts, as I have done, is not being irrational. Blind obedience and messianic worship as displayed by you is the definition of irrational.

That's the problem...you're over 65....

I mean that jokingly. I have much respect for this country's greatest generation (those born in the 1930's) but I'm not so sure about those born in the 50's, and 60's. They're either liberal Democratic hippies or angry Republican rednecks.

I've lived over 50 years, and I saw this country suck in the 70's, then get good for the 80's and 90's, then start sucking again from 2000-on.

If you think that post WWII prosperity bublle happened because Americans are exceptional, you'll never be anything but disspointed in Americans who lived after it. In 1946, the US was the only power that didn't need to be rebuilt, now the world has caught up. There is NOTHING any president, liberal, or conservative, could do to stop that.

You need to believe things are turning to crap because that's the narrative repeated by conservative media, and maybe it's your life that sucks all on it's own.

Things are way better for me than they have ever been, because I'm self reliant, and getting moreso every year. I'm not a union employee, or on medicare/social security, and I'm rewarded for excellence. I'm also a liberal.

I don't worship Obama, nor do I know any of his supporters who do. That in itself shows you're impressionable, and underexposed to what liberals say, yet overexposed to what conservatives say liberals say

The USA is still the greatest country in the history of the world, in spite of having the worst president in history for the last 6 years.

My issue is that the liberal progressive collectivist mentality being pushed by obama, the media, academia, and the ignorant will bring the country down if it is not stopped.

18 trillion in debt with no end in sight, more on welfare than ever before, more on foodstamps than ever before, low approval ratings for the entire government, terrible foreign policy, failed domestic policy.

Yes, we are going down the tubes unless some significant changes are made.

Socrates said this a few thousand years ago

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

Archie Bunker said this not too long ago:

You couldn't get a decent war off the ground that way! All the young people would say no, sure they would, 'cause they don't want to get killed! And that's why we leave it to the Congress, 'cause them old crocks ain't gonna get killed?? And they're gonna do the right thing and get behind the President, and vote Yes!

All this garden variety anti collectivism is impracticle and broad enough to be meaningless.

Just go with it...the world isn't a bad place if you don't want it to be.

 

[toxicmedia]

He's not my messiah, and I don't know one single lefty who thinks her is. That's just what righties have been told we think. So he doesn't deserve any criticism for that.

Furthermore...there is nothing wrong with having avfather from Kenya, unless you simply hate people for being from kenya, which Obama is not.

Lastly, I didn't vote for the man

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

Only positive I've seen about the man is he appears to be a good family man.

He is also a suppose constitutional scholar who has no respect or reverence for the Constitution or the founding principles. He was born to Marxist, raised by Marxist and by his own admissions sought out the most radical people he could find as a young adult.

He has no executive experience and it shows, just look at the radicals he surrounds himself with, I have zero respect for the man.

What you just wrote was regurgitated righty media hysteria, based solely on what righties "think he really means"

That's the problem I spoke of earlier....righty media fans don't ever hear Obama's words, or consider his actions. They just hear about how messed up what he did was, how ineffective he is, and what they say he "really means".

None of which seems true. Obama has not implemented programs that would result in a socialist sysem of government in the US, which is what Marxism is. He knows more about the constitution than probably anyone in righty media does, and probably more than most Tea Partiers.

You need to think what you're saying through....

You've allowed yourself to believe...a Professor of Consitutional Law from Northwestern, a Harvard Law graduate, and I could go on.....doesn't know anything about the constitution.

That's like saying Ben Carson knows nothing about Neurosurgery.

Or John McCain knows nothing about flying a jet

Damn you talk a good game, but fail to consider that the Supreme Court, other constitutional scholars and judges have disagreed with his actions. The Supreme Court has ruled against him 9-0 like 7 times, not a presidential record but significant considering he is a supposed constitutional professor, you'd think he would know better.

The role of a Consitutional Scholar is to teach the Constitution.

The role of a politician, is to manipulate the constitution, without violating it, to suit the interests of the people who voted for you.

Seems like Obama is doing just that

 

[toxicmedia]

This is a great example of how conservative media turns righties into hostile people. And they don't even know that's what happened

Buat won't last long...when a GOP president is in the white house in 2017...people like you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win.

May be you should be aware of the history between myself and that particular poster before putting your foot in your mouth.

it's adorable you'd think that I would be concerned with your assessment of where my foot is.

I'm positive you will go back to supporting governent spending, and saying anyone who criticizes the President is helping the terrorists win, when the GOP takes back the white house. It's what you did before, during the Bush admin

That just proves you don't know me, I was on my congresscritters just as much when Bush was in office as now. The patriot act and the TSA were two of the biggest mistakes this country has ever seen and I am still lobbying to get both scrapped.

Well, than that's where we differ.

For me the glass if half full, and I look for rationality and good in people

For you, the glass is half empty, and you're probably better at recognizing threats than me, but maybe see some when they don't exist.

Even your dear leader said he wouldn't reauthorize the patriot act, he lied, again.

He's not my dear leader, I didn't vote for him. I voted for McCain, and didn't vote for anybody in 2012

 

[OKTexas]

I'm glad that you didn't vote for him. But you certainly support him now. Do you support him because he's half black or are you a raving socialist collectivist like he is?

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

Only positive I've seen about the man is he appears to be a good family man.

He is also a suppose constitutional scholar who has no respect or reverence for the Constitution or the founding principles. He was born to Marxist, raised by Marxist and by his own admissions sought out the most radical people he could find as a young adult.

He has no executive experience and it shows, just look at the radicals he surrounds himself with, I have zero respect for the man.

What you just wrote was regurgitated righty media hysteria, based solely on what righties "think he really means"

That's the problem I spoke of earlier....righty media fans don't ever hear Obama's words, or consider his actions. They just hear about how messed up what he did was, how ineffective he is, and what they say he "really means".

None of which seems true. Obama has not implemented programs that would result in a socialist sysem of government in the US, which is what Marxism is. He knows more about the constitution than probably anyone in righty media does, and probably more than most Tea Partiers.

You need to think what you're saying through....

You've allowed yourself to believe...a Professor of Consitutional Law from Northwestern, a Harvard Law graduate, and I could go on.....doesn't know anything about the constitution.

That's like saying Ben Carson knows nothing about Neurosurgery.

Or John McCain knows nothing about flying a jet

Damn you talk a good game, but fail to consider that the Supreme Court, other constitutional scholars and judges have disagreed with his actions. The Supreme Court has ruled against him 9-0 like 7 times, not a presidential record but significant considering he is a supposed constitutional professor, you'd think he would know better.

The role of a Consitutional Scholar is to teach the Constitution.

The role of a politician, is to manipulate the constitution, without violating it, to suit the interests of the people who voted for you.

Seems like Obama is doing just that

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and I will faithfully perform the duties of the President. I don't see manipulate for political ends anywhere in there. And the courts have said he has violated it. And teaching his interpretations of the Constitution is apparently teaching propaganda because he has no respect for his oath or the Constitution.

 

[toxicmedia]

No, and for someone who doesn't watch Fox, or frequent Breitbart and Drudge, or listen to Rush...you certainly seem opposed to allowing anything positive about Obama into your psyche. That is irrational. No one politican is 100% bad.

I support most of what Obama does, because what he does makes sense to me. He's not about drama, which is ALL the GOP is about. And believe it or not, I would expect them to do that. Creating discontent is the job of the party out of power. But you believe it, and that makes you weak.

I supported Bush for what he did right, when the left was calling him a chicken hawk war monger.

I just try to find rational behavior, whereas you're just stirring the pot. You may believe yourself...but I know you're just impressionable

Only positive I've seen about the man is he appears to be a good family man.

He is also a suppose constitutional scholar who has no respect or reverence for the Constitution or the founding principles. He was born to Marxist, raised by Marxist and by his own admissions sought out the most radical people he could find as a young adult.

He has no executive experience and it shows, just look at the radicals he surrounds himself with, I have zero respect for the man.

What you just wrote was regurgitated righty media hysteria, based solely on what righties "think he really means"

That's the problem I spoke of earlier....righty media fans don't ever hear Obama's words, or consider his actions. They just hear about how messed up what he did was, how ineffective he is, and what they say he "really means".

None of which seems true. Obama has not implemented programs that would result in a socialist sysem of government in the US, which is what Marxism is. He knows more about the constitution than probably anyone in righty media does, and probably more than most Tea Partiers.

You need to think what you're saying through....

You've allowed yourself to believe...a Professor of Consitutional Law from Northwestern, a Harvard Law graduate, and I could go on.....doesn't know anything about the constitution.

That's like saying Ben Carson knows nothing about Neurosurgery.

Or John McCain knows nothing about flying a jet

Damn you talk a good game, but fail to consider that the Supreme Court, other constitutional scholars and judges have disagreed with his actions. The Supreme Court has ruled against him 9-0 like 7 times, not a presidential record but significant considering he is a supposed constitutional professor, you'd think he would know better.

The role of a Consitutional Scholar is to teach the Constitution.

The role of a politician, is to manipulate the constitution, without violating it, to suit the interests of the people who voted for you.

Seems like Obama is doing just that

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and I will faithfully perform the duties of the President. I don't see manipulate for political ends anywhere in there. And the courts have said he has violated it. And teaching his interpretations of the Constitution is apparently teaching propaganda because he has no respect for his oath or the Constitution.

Every politician in Washington, on both sides of the aisle, fit s that characterization.

I'm both an originalist, for interpretation sake, but completely open to the "living document" concept.

If we want to amend it based on the changing times, thats good.

We're not seeing some great degredation going on, just life on life's terms

You can be a chicken little, or a reactionary....or, make the changes positive ones.