Objective State of Union

Are you here to accept or deny my statement?

Did trump broker the 2 year OPEC+ deal, which lowered supply and caused a rise in gas prices once demand went up and supply stayed low?

Stay on topic Robert W
I will look into your claims. But what does that have to do with the state of the union speech?
 
Did trump broker the 2 year OPEC+ deal, which lowered supply and caused a rise in gas prices once demand went up and supply stayed low?
President Trump played a key role in the historic agreement between the world’s largest oil producers that trims global production by nearly 10 percent, according to Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette.


The deal reached by the so-called OPEC+ group, which ends the price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, reduces global output by 9.7 million barrels per day in May and June, helping to ease a global gut exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Production will also be reduced by 8 million bpd from July through December and 6 million bpd from January 2021 through April 2022.

OIL TRIMS EARLY GAINS DESPITE DEAL BETWEEN SAUDI ARABIA, RUSSIA

Trump was “personally involved throughout the process” and “showed his skill at dealmaking,” Brouillette told reporters on a Sunday evening conference call.

Trump did not make any specific promises on behalf of U.S. production, according to Brouillette, who noted that Mexico agreed to cut output by 100,000 bpd in May and June and the “reduction of production within the United States will subsume whatever agreement the Mexicans would have been required to agree to under OPEC+.”

Trump said in a Monday morning tweet that "OPEC+ is looking to cut 20 Million Barrels a day, not the 10 Million that is generally being reported."

During Covid Winco when consumption fell so much.
 
I will look into your claims. But what does that have to do with the state of the union speech?
Did trump mention :

Economy
Inflation
Gas Prices

in the SOTU?

He did, so quit dodging and/or supporting his LIES.
 
During Covid Winco when consumption fell so much.
And after people started going back to work, by DRIVING.
Production was STILL down, due to OPEC+, causing gas prices to rise while biden was POTUS.

Trump and OPEC+ deal were 100% responsible for the increase in gas prices.
 
And after people started going back to work, by DRIVING.
Production was STILL down, due to OPEC+, causing gas prices to rise while biden was POTUS.

Trump and OPEC+ deal were 100% responsible for the increase in gas prices.
I am not going down that rabbit hole with you. Others can if they want to.

I told you way back, you talk like a loyal Democrat, act like one but seem to be ashamed to just say you are one.
 
Did trump mention :

Economy
Inflation
Gas Prices

in the SOTU?

He did, so quit dodging and/or supporting his LIES.
What in his STOU are you telling me about? Did he mention his deal with the cartel way back when?
 
And after people started going back to work, by DRIVING.
Production was STILL down, due to OPEC+, causing gas prices to rise while biden was POTUS.

Trump and OPEC+ deal were 100% responsible for the increase in gas prices.
I get it now, you blame OPEC.
 
I get it now, you blame OPEC.
The OPEC+ 2 year deal that trump signed/brokered.

You know, the deal that reduced foreign oil production and decreased our supply.
Yup, I blame trump for signing that terrible deal.
Foreign favors by trump led to higher prices, for 2 + years, for the USA.

Do you get it yet?
If you don't, just say it.

Say....according to Robert W , the OPEC+ deal had nothing to do with higher gas prices during the biden term.
Just say it Robert.
 
The OPEC+ 2 year deal that trump signed/brokered.

You know, the deal that reduced foreign oil production and decreased our supply.
Yup, I blame trump for signing that terrible deal.
Foreign favors by trump led to higher prices, for 2 + years, for the USA.

Do you get it yet?
If you don't, just say it.

Say....according to Robert W , the OPEC+ deal had nothing to do with higher gas prices during the biden term.
Just say it Robert.
Wooops, you are wrong.

Washington State is supplied with fuels primarily by its five refineries, which are crucial for providing energy and supporting the regional economy. These refineries process crude oil from various sources, including domestic and foreign supplies, and are key players in the Pacific Northwest's fuel supply chain. The refineries receive a significant portion of their crude oil from Canada, North Dakota, and Alaska, with the majority of their liquid fuels transported via pipelines, including the Olympic Pipeline, which delivers fuels to distribution terminals in the region.
 
Are you deflecting again?
You refuse to answer a direct question.
I'll ask again, but I know you want answer THE QUESTION, but will deflect again.

THE QUESTION:
Did the OPEC+ deal reduce the supply of oil in the USA?
Did I claim to be an expert on this topic. Are you the expert?
My understanding is we have more than enough for us, so we export oil.
 
Did I claim to be an expert on this topic. Are you the expert?
My understanding is we have more than enough for us, so we export oil.
Proving that in fact, you are NOT an expert.

the U.S. is a major oil exporter, but it still imports oil because of refinery configuration (needing heavier crude) and global market demands.
During OPEC production cut deals (e.g., in 2016-2017, 2020), supplies felt lower because OPEC intentionally reduced global exports, causing prices to rise despite high U.S. production, which the U.S. was then exporting.
 
Proving that in fact, you are NOT an expert.

the U.S. is a major oil exporter, but it still imports oil because of refinery configuration (needing heavier crude) and global market demands.
During OPEC production cut deals (e.g., in 2016-2017, 2020), supplies felt lower because OPEC intentionally reduced global exports, causing prices to rise despite high U.S. production, which the U.S. was then exporting.
Check this out. Maybe you can actually be an expert.

 
Check this out. Maybe you can actually be an expert.

Are you deflecting again?
You refuse to answer a direct question.
I'll ask again, but I know you won't answer THE QUESTION, but will deflect again.

THE QUESTION:
Did the OPEC+ deal reduce the supply of oil in the USA?
 
Are you deflecting again?
You refuse to answer a direct question.
I'll ask again, but I know you won't answer THE QUESTION, but will deflect again.

THE QUESTION:
Did the OPEC+ deal reduce the supply of oil in the USA?
Read this.

President Trump’s two-day visit to Saudi Arabia is expected to focus on bilateral deals, including a Saudi pledge to invest $600 billion in the United States. Cooperation on arms deals and a civil nuclear program for Riyadh are said to be on the agenda. Trump and his host, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, will surely also discuss regional hot spots, including Gaza, Yemen, and Iran.

But even before leaving Washington, Trump had already secured an important win from Riyadh in the form of extra crude oil that has contributed to a drop in oil prices.

The oil market was surprised in early April when a subset of eight members of the OPEC+ (Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries) producer group announced it would be increasing supply at triple the previously expected rate. That’s because the Saudi-led coalition had worked assiduously for more than a year to keep supply tight—twice postponing a program to very gradually add barrels until the market was strong enough to support the move.

Suddenly, in early April (just as financial markets were reeling from the trade war), the producer group announced it would be hiking May output by 411,000 barrels per day—three times the volume it had previously publicized. And just last week, it doubled down, maintaining the faster supply rate for June.

 
Robert W

You STILL refuse to answer THE QUESTION.

Did the OPEC+ deal reduce the supply of oil in the USA?
 
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Robert W

You STILL refuse to answer THE QUESTION.

Did the OPEC+ deal reduce the supply of oil in the USA?
Why do you need me to tell you? Did it? Tell me about workers not going to work, trucks not needed to deliver goods during a panic
 
Why do you need me to tell you? Did it? Tell me about workers not going to work, trucks not needed to deliver goods during a panic
I know....I'll tell you trump fucked up by shutting things down.
trump is the man, right.
No one tells him NO,
Yet you want me to believe that trump just LET the Governors control him.
Hell NO, that doesn't happen under trump.

Why didn't trump demand that States stay open.

This whole shutting down was trumps idea.
He LET it happen, he wanted it to happen.
Trump doesn't defer to ANYONE.....He is the MAN.
 
I know....I'll tell you trump fucked up by shutting things down.
trump is the man, right.
No one tells him NO,
Yet you want me to believe that trump just LET the Governors control him.
Hell NO, that doesn't happen under trump.

Why didn't trump demand that States stay open.

This whole shutting down was trumps idea.
He LET it happen, he wanted it to happen.
Trump doesn't defer to ANYONE.....He is the MAN.
Put that to music and play the world's smallest violin. :eusa_boohoo:
 
Put that to music and play the world's smallest violin. :eusa_boohoo:
So you agree that trump let down the US economy and ALL businesses by allowing the Governors to shut down, including you (R) governors.

Trump Failed.
He failed to LEAD.

And you want to play a song?

C'mon Robert, come back with something.
Something like.......trump was saving America.........trump got us the vaccine.......sure after 8 months of shutdowns.
 
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